Thursday, September 20, 2001
(Interview with George Rodriguez, KOGO News, San Diego.)
Rodriguez: How are things holding up over there?
Quigley: I think very, very well. We're making very good progress in recovering from the attack on the building last Tuesday. Lots of remains have been removed, and the weather has been very kind to us. It's raining today, but for the most part it's been very kind to us and speeded up the process, the very important process of identifying those unaccounted for to let their loved ones know their status.
Rodriguez: How is morale there? That's got to be such -- the trauma is inconceivable, and I'm sure there are a lot of personnel there that are still, will be greatly affected for years to come.
Quigley: I think you just can't go through a circumstance like this without being affected by it, George.
I think the initial emotions, people's emotions have gone through several different steps over the past ten days or so. Initially it was uncertainty, it was fear of what was happening. As understanding sunk in I think it was anger and a lot of grief for the individuals that we knew to be killed in the attack. And I think subsequent to that, which is where we are today, I think it's just a very quiet, determination to see this through.
Rodriguez: And to go from something as just devastating as this, to have to get right back to work and start working on a military response operation, Infinite Justice, that's got to be tough, to jump from one thing to the other.
Quigley: I think no matter what your responsibilities here at the Pentagon and elsewhere around the world, but I think it's very healthy for individuals to get back to a sense of normalcy, to be back in the company of friends and coworkers. There's a lot of very good that can be done from just sharing your personal experiences with those you're familiar with seeing every day.
We are -- the secretary, the president has indeed ordered the disposition of some of our military forces outside of the United States to start the Defense Department portion of the president's effort in the war on terrorism.
Rodriguez: The president has really tried to impact this on everyone, that this is not going to be a conventional war. And I'm still wondering, just listening to people on the street, if people are really prepared for that, if they really realize that this is not going to be the Gulf War.
Quigley: I think you're absolutely right, George. This will be very different from any war that America has ever fought. We're not talking about fighting conventional armies and navies and air forces here. These are terrorists. They fight in the shadows, they live in the shadows, and they have shown themselves to be a very, very unconventional foe. So America needs to -- I think it's starting to happen. I think Americans are starting to understand that this is going to be different than anything we've ever done before. Very different from say Kosovo, most recently, or the Gulf War ten years ago.
Rodriguez: Historically, interesting, amazing when you think about it how we opened the last century with World War I. That was a new sort of warfare in the trenches, and now here we are in the 21st Century starting a new kind of war, fighting shadows. Not fighting countries at all, but fighting almost an unseen force.
Quigley: There are many elements that need to be brought to bear here, much more than just military force. They are diplomatic, financial, legal, economic, and it goes not only against the network of terrorist organizations but also the countries that provide them training support, weapons, just safe haven.
We want the day to come when a terrorist network can look all about itself and can find nowhere for support, no nation, no individual to provide them money or weapons or support of any kind and put them in complete despair. That's the goal.
Rodriguez: For so many years this country has been blessed with not experiencing a war within its borders save the Civil War and of course Pearl Harbor. But now the war has come home, and I think that's really made the difference. I think it's made the whole world stand up and see the seriousness of terrorism.
Quigley: I couldn't agree more. This is an assault on the very beliefs that Americans hold dear, our personal freedoms, the freedom to walk the streets of America without looking over your shoulder and worrying what's going to happen next. That is the cause, and we will prevail.
Rodriguez: All right, Admiral Quigley. Thank you so much for taking time out, and good luck.
Quigley: Thank you very much, George.
Rodriguez: Bye, bye now.