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8/4/2010 3:46:52 PM
Why are some people making it seem like we are horrible for not wanting people to be openly homosexual in the military? It is not that we are discriminating, but I don't go around telling everyone "I'm straight, I'm straight". Why do they need to tell us that they are homosexual. Sometimes there is more bliss in the unknown. I am a female and we have just as much a problem with it as males do. And for some of you: This has nothing to do with us being insecure with our own sexuality. We just prefer that we don't have to here people broadcasting their sexual preferences all the time. We really "Don't Need To Know". Plain and simple. We get in trouble if we ask anyway. So, stop with all this political correctness. You can't just tell some people that they have to sleep in a room with someone that is gay and that they have to be ok with it b/c a repeal says so. Seriously??
- Brooke, Cuba
8/4/2010 3:45:32 PM
Repealing DADT for all units simultaneously is the wrong COA.
Deployed units have a lot to manage with combat and separation from families. People made comments like “just accept them” or “its 2011”; none of these apply to reality for some service members. Forcing changes when your stress level is already high is not conducive to good military operations. We need a ‘rolling change’ plan (if it’s repealed) to implement changes after units are back from deployment. Gays/Homosexuals say they are in morally conflicting situations, they want to serve their country but have to ‘hide’ who they are, if DADT is repealed it may put other service members in very similar moral ly conflicting situationssmile
. Gays/Homosexuals joined the military knowing what was going on. If DADT is repealed it will force some people into a ‘morally conflicting’ situations they did not expect. Time, patience, and classes will be needed if DADT is repealed.
- Chris Ikeda, Hawaii
8/4/2010 2:34:06 PM
The corps of a military unit is trust in each other. This trust is established through mutual shared experience. My experience is in a infantry unit in combat enviroments. While you could trust gays to act in there own best intrest for survial , the men I served with and I would definately baulk at becoming close to a person of different sexual persuasion. Each unit has its own personality and people who cannot adapt to that personality are shunned. Such would be the case with gays. The unit commander could order people to get along but trust of that unit would be shattered and both in its commander "for giving an order that violates personal beliefs" and in members that cannot adjust to that units personality.
- Jeremy, Laramie, Wy
8/4/2010 2:13:20 PM
Without mentioning the Biblical or moral aspects of this subject, I will just briefly comment on how much of a hostile environment would be created to change the policy. During my time in the Army, I've lived in very close quarters, showered in open showers, and encountered other situations that I found to be uncomfortable all because of standard Army procedures. I truly feel it would present a hostile environment to have soldiers showering and living with other soldiers who are "openly" attracted to the same sex. Isn't that the same difference as allowing males and females to live and shower together...?
- LT Day, Virginia
8/4/2010 2:10:12 PM
I have served 30 years in the milatary. been on 4 deployments and have worked for dod for 27 years. i have known many gay soldiers over this time and it find it hard to belive that any one is againts them serving in the milatary. men have a harder time with the issue then women. we have all served over seas or at home with some who is gay or we supected of being gay. its time we treat every one fairly and allow our milatary to grow as it has with the rights we all have. we have been though this with african americans and women, so stand up and get to know them...i have found many friends and built many relationships with soldiers who are gay. dont be afraid as we have been in the past, i thought we learned from our mistakes. do ask and do tell i say.....
- John, conus
8/4/2010 5:10:38 AM
Gays and lesbians have been serving our nation, sacrificing their families and partners and giving their lives to defend the very thing that is taken away from them: freedom. It's no secret what policy is in effect, they know that and understand that, but they choose to sign that contract and raise their right hand because they want our great nation to continue to have the freedoms they do. Gays and lesbians are people, just like you and I and deserve to be treated as such. The only difference between them and us is what they do behind closed doors. That's it. They are just as solid of a squared away soldier as the next guy, they take pride in their country and serve it well. They shouldn't be looked at or treated any differently because of who they choose to love. We are all brothers and sisters at arms. We all serve for the same sole purpose-- to be able to secure a future for our children; a safe and free future so that they may live to see their children grow as well.
- T, Korea
8/4/2010 12:23:46 AM
Some people responding to this survey seem to think that this entire debate is about "moral values" or "keeping people out." The fact is that NO ONE has actually done any MDMP on this question as far as I can see. First of all, to the best of my understanding, DADT is in place to give Servicemembers a way to serve their country in uniform while mitigating the potentially negative effects on the DoD's warfighting ability. The open introduction of a third and fourth group of sexually-oriented Servicemembers will affect warfighting ability and increase construction costs (barracks and latrines).I know that some Servicemembers will resign if they are FORCED to shower and live with someone of (what is essentially) of the OPPOSITE sexual orientation from themselves; don't assume away the problem.
- MAJ Popiak, Maryland
8/3/2010 5:33:44 PM
Here is something for you guys to think about before you decide to do a handful of Lobbyists bidding.
Contrary to Hollywood and the medias belief, not EVERYONE believes Homosexual behavior is ok. You are going to create a hostile work enviroment if DADT is repealed. I can guarantee you, after serving in the Infantry that you are going to have some serious problems with Hate Crimes in the combat arms if they find out another soldier is gay. Indaviduals can be punished yes, but morale and order will break down and you will have a firestorm to contain and more bad press than you can shake a stick at when soldiers find out another guy or woman might like them and are intensely homophobic or find it immoral, disgusting, or reprehensible. Just remember what happened on the Jenny Jones show when one guy found out another guy liked him secretly. It was not pretty. please don't repeal it, for the good of our organization regardless of the issue of equality for all.
- Sam, Portland, OR
8/3/2010 2:17:45 PM
I was serving when DADT was introduced. Many said that DADT would destroy the military. Fast-forward 16 or 17 years and here we are, fighting the Global War On Terror, and implementing American policy worldwide, and no catastrophes. The same was said about racial integration. Johns Hopkins University researched the impact of integration with the following results: Integration raised the morale of African American soldiers and did not reduce that of white soldiers;Integration was favored by black soldiers and was not opposed by most white soldiers; Experience in integrated units increased white support for integration; Integration improved fighting effectiveness.
My point is this, the military has always been on the cutting edge of social advancement in our nation. There has always been resistance to that advancement, but we have only improved through these changes. I believe the military is professional enough to survive this change, and get better as a result of it.
- Kurk, Ft. Bragg
8/3/2010 1:59:11 PM
The DADT policy is not conducive to good order, discipline and morale as it is discriminatory in nature. However, I do feel that racism, alcohol abuse, domestic violence and discrimination are, for which there is no screening criteria. In 1987, “are you gay” was a screening question asked during the military entrance process. As an Army professional, I accept that a Soldier’s "orientation" is not my business. Therefore, I do not oppose Soldiers disclosing their orientation during the recruiting process. Moreover, there is no secret that homosexuals already openly serve. I vote to allow homosexuals to openly serve. However, for the purpose of clarity, good order, discipline, and morale, AR 670-1, Wear and Appearance of Military Uniform and Insignia guidance must address and reflect a change in gender ambiguity, i.e., females wearing male haircuts and male civilian attire at military social and professional development events.
- MAYANN, Redstone Arsenal
8/3/2010 12:59:51 PM
Let’s look at some of the major changes that will have to take place. First, those who oppose it will be look at as people who promote hate crimes not as a religious belief this will be your biggest issue people won't just compromise their faith. Second, living quarters and showers; we will have to accommodate all gays and straight people. Males don't shower with females or live in the same quarters so don't expect me to shower or live with gays for the same reasons. Bottom line is there no more wrong it seems to me the only way to reduce crime is to make is to make it legal. There are reasons why gays are not to be in the military let’s keep it that way. As a Christian it is my duty to respect Gods laws over mans. I believe this to be a life style by choice not birth if we are born this way its only because we are all born in sin. I'm not trying to single out gays; I believe all sin to be outside of the will of God I.E. like drinking alcohol, smoking, chewing ext...
- Chad, Ft Konx, KY
8/3/2010 12:13:01 PM
Homosexuals already serve in the Armed Forces. Should they be allowed to openly serve , I don't agree. Where is the line drawn? I agree with the soldiers who point out valid points in regard to family, morals, and if it's not broken then why fix it. Having a family of my own I wonder about what will happen if I'm living next to a same sex couple who has children. How am I supposed to teach my children the right values? Most people think of the same sex couple as a dominant person still able to carry out their duties and as of now thats what a soldier looks like. What happens when the femmine soldier starts to get picked on or the soldier who likes to cross dress enters the room? I respect the fact that soldiers want rights and all but you can have all your rights and freedoms as a civilian. There are things we all don't and want to change but we also know that rules are put in place for a reason.
- Miller, DC
8/3/2010 12:07:32 PM
This world is changing everyday and whether you people like it or not- this change WILL be made. Maybe not as soon as this time around presents, but it will. And HELLO!!!! Gay people are all around you serving...sharing the shower with you!! Is it going to make it that much different knowing that they're gay?
For those parents that say "I don't want to have to explain to my child what same sex couples are because it's immoral..." Got something to say to you...BLAH BLAH BLAH! Your setting yourself and your kids up for failure. Who do you think are raising your kids friends? Or teaching your kids at school? Or how to do karate? Or play basketball? Yep! Bingo! Same sex couples or gay people.
- DANI, Ft. Hood, TX
8/3/2010 10:24:03 AM
With that said, the military separates opposite sexual orientations, male and female, for obvious reasons. If you decide to offer homosexuality it's own accepted sexual orientation than you must have separate barracks/living quarters and showering facilities/latrines. If is only fair that a man can be just as uncomfortable as a woman with a different sexual oreintation in the aforementioned environments.
The military is a place for people of character, men and women, fighting together for a just and honest cause. If you dillute that core fiber with alternative lifestyles you are risking a dillution of the very core fiber that has kept our military together and operating at optimun levels since it's founding. Everyone understands the political wind that this comes from; VOTES from a minority group. "Politically correct "seems to be where all the erosion of moral value comes from. Please keep "politically correct" out of the military.
- Robert Cornicelli, NY
8/3/2010 9:52:07 AM
THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING LIVING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR HOMOSEXUAL will be VERY EXPENSIVE in garrison and in a COMBAT AREAS IMPOSSIBLE. Homosexuality is not like racism or ageism; these two are predetermined at birth. Sexual orientation is a choice that we all make. Civilians choose who they live with however Soldiers do not. THE PEOPLE WHO ADVOCATE GAYS/LESBIANS IN THE MILITARY DO NOT HAVE TO SHARE A ROOM, TAKE SHOWERS, OR BE IN CLOSE CONTACT AREAS WITH HOMOSEXUALS. Homosexuality today tomorrow is the use of illegal drugs and gang membership. All of these choices have negative influences on other people.
- fnj, GA
8/3/2010 7:31:38 AM
DADT has worked for so many years. Why change policy now? Anything done for political correctness is wrong. Anyone who is gay can serve in the military. If you want to be out and in your face about it then resign. You know what the rules are before signing up. Don't expect them to change after you agree to them.
- Dean, Wash DC
8/3/2010 12:42:32 AM
The one thought or issue that has NOT been raised yet, or I haven't heard about: Is will there be domestic partner benefits for the service member who has a partner? What about the VA will they have to recongnize the domestic partners if the Armed Forces are doing the same? If the Armed Forces allow domestic partnership then why not straight couples with domestic partnership? Or would the Amred Forces allow gays to marry? Just a thought... I am a Veteran Service Officer just wondering how this whole new socialization will effect the Military. Thank you!
- NDPIke, Minnesota
8/2/2010 10:53:58 PM
I have been deployed with gay and lesbian soldiers. There were no issues with them, there was no secret about it. We didn't have to ask as we already knew the answer. If we censor out those who exist, we deny them existance or at least partially. We are all brothers and sisters in the military, we sweat together, we bleed together.
What's worse, a gay being in the military or someone who is emotionally distressed? I've met many soldiers were absoloutely not military material unless there is an exception for idiots, theives, and those who abuse their spouses (man on woman, woman on man).
Do they really just give you the heebie jeebies? Accept them, understand them, be friends with them. We're all stuck on this planet together, you know?
- Benjamin Dobbs, home
8/2/2010 9:37:04 PM
This is the worst decision Congress can make. This country was built on the Bible. The Bible openly speaks against this type of actvity. This decision in favor of open gay and lesbian relationships in the armed forces would demonstrate a serious lack of morals. You cannot just let people do whatever they want to do and just accept it, especially if you know that it is wrong. If we don't stand for something, we will fall for anything. Army Strong!
- LT, Fort Bragg, NC
8/2/2010 8:38:40 PM
"I am a Professional." Right from the Soldiers Creed this statement says it all for me. I am in support of letting people who want to serve there country serve it without harassment and judgement. Its time to take a look at the Army Values and decided if these are the values we as Soldiers are going to live by if this law is changed and if we are going to have respect, personal courage, integrity and act as Professionals toward everyone who decides to join despite race, religion, gender or sexual preference.
- SGT Mele, Utah
8/2/2010 7:16:14 PM
While I do note believe in nor condone intolerance against any group, the gay community included, I also belive that the military needs to lead in upholding values, morals and unit cohesion so necessary to succeed at the mission. When individuals leave military service they may pursue their values and preferences, but in military everyone needs to abide by one standard (without negating reality of diversity).
- Ephraim Garcia, Ny, NY
8/2/2010 6:25:25 PM
well i have served right along side some of the best there is and i have to say some of the best at our job serving are gay i know for a fact that just because my battle tells me he/she is gay doesnt change how he/she holds himself/herself in uniform... i showered with a woman trained with this same woman and learned how to be a better person and soldier from her and she was as gay as could be... i honestly see how people believe it'll be a huge change for us all if the law is changed but wasnt it true with letting african american's in as well... just because it'll be hard doesnt mean it isnt the right thing to do in our times or that the standards will drop it just means that we are being who we are as americans and allowing our people rights. isn't that what we fight for in the first place.. isnt that what makes america different then everyone else... you know the difference we are so proud of...
- hogan, st.louis
8/2/2010 5:02:14 PM
I think there are as many good and bad points as having women in the military. Try to be the minority and you'll have a greater understanding of how to treat others.
Sexual harassment is the same whether male or female and sex does not belong in the workplace. The partner of another human needs to be able to mourn and celebrate the life of their loved one the same as any other married couple and have access to the benefits of being a military spouse (moving around from post to post).
I think that is really the issue here: recognizing the sacrifices that the "unrecognized" significant other has made to support their partner. Be secure in your own sexuality and allow others to have their happiness too.
- danielle, alabama
8/2/2010 2:21:04 PM
This is not an issue of morals and values. It is about the soldiers comfort in training and duty. Just as the seperate the males and female quarters, they would have to seperate the gay and lesbian quarters from the general population. As it is now I can freely shower and change in the female barricks without thinking that someone would be looking at me. I would be just as uncomfortable with a lesbian sharing quarters as I would be with males in my quarters.
- Lauren, Florida
8/2/2010 1:17:18 PM
As an overall military force we have gone to an innumerable amount of countries and have had to accept, immerse and assimilate (in some cases) into foreign cultures. I am certain there is a fair number of service men and women who have witnessed, first-hand, "homosexual" acts by the local populace in the different theaters. Did it corrupt you or any troops that you know?
There are too many civilians on the left and right who scream about equality for or condemn gays/lesbians that have never enlisted in any branch of service let alone deployed to a combat zone. While that type of lifestyle makes me pretty uncomfortable, if a gay or lesbian wants to go to basic, serve and deploy for their country. I'm all for it! It won't effect who I am or the way I raise my children.
I've seen plenty of "gay bashers" turn into little babies and start crying once the bullets start flying or just because they miss home.
- SFC Rainville, Indiana
8/2/2010 10:33:35 AM
I thought the purpose of our military was warfighting. Enough of the social experimentation forced on us. This is a profession of arms that at present is voluntary service. If a person does not like the regulations, don't join the service. There are reasons for this ban that are rooted in military history. The fact that there have been those who got around this is no argument for allowing it. I suppose many criminal acts have been accomplished by servicemembers throughout time and they were not caught. There is no logical comparison under the constitution that there is a racial or gender discrimination.
Bottom line is to take your private lifestyle off duty. Is it really necessary to have to openly tell everyone during official duty what your lifestyle is? Keep it private, do your job, enough said.
- LTC Ritchie, Iraq
8/2/2010 10:13:31 AM
Leave current policy in place...this is no more than a political move for the White House.
- William Notbohm, PA
8/2/2010 9:07:34 AM
I hate to break it to you ladies and gentlemen, but this is not Gods Army, nor is its Gods Nation. Those of you versed enough in our history will know a majority of founding fathers had no intention of this being a Nation of God. So the fact you think homosexualtiy is wrong or immoral is anything but a fact, its your opinion.
In my six years I've served with many openly gay soldiers, and the only time it became a problem was when they decided to use their sexual preference to get out. The command didn't care. They were for the most part great soldiers.
If things never changed this Army would be only white males. We all bleed red, and we protect OUR nation.
- SSG Coupe, KCMO
8/2/2010 7:39:51 AM
The don’t ask, don't tell policy is a good halfway measure for time being, it does not say that you can't be gay and be in the military, it just says don't advertise the fact. Now you want to fix something fix the sodomy article first (right now reads anything but missionary position is punishable under UCMJ). If changed, it will create divisiveness in a team oriented environment. And let us also face the fact that accidents sometimes happen in a field environment to “problem” soldiers, yeah an investigation might figure out what happened but the point is that someone who probably shouldn’t have gotten hurt in the first place will.
- SPC Bonkowski, belguim
8/2/2010 7:38:56 AM
Alright let us face facts we as a society (USA) are not mature enough for the openness that people say that they want. When we can have unisex bathrooms showers and barracks in a training environment and for standard living conditions on base or deployments, We will be ready for a completely open policy that is getting pushed by people who don’t have to live with the consequences of a new policy.
- SPC Bonkowski, Belguim
8/2/2010 7:36:46 AM
I do not agree one bit to remove the "don't tell" policy, if anything it should be more restrictive : Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual not allowed in the military AT ALL !!!
After 13 years in the Army and seeing all the changes we have encountered this would be the worst one of all. I can manage a different APFT, longer and/or shorter middle east tours, Bn PCS's and 2 to 3 year assignments; even when the military started allowing females in certain getting MOS's, and the public, see how I said the public keeps pushing for more and more (give the mouse a cookie) allowances, because let's face, if it was mandatory to post a comment and to vote by the military members we can certainly say that at least 70% of us are against gay/lesbian/bisexual personnel in the military.
- Eddie, ROK
8/2/2010 4:23:51 AM
Im just sayin, Im a single soldier and live in the barracks. I would want not a homosexual roommate. BTW GOD made Adam n Eve not Adam n Steve!!!
- therock, germany
8/2/2010 3:47:23 AM
I think don't ask don't tell should be recinded to NO GAYS IN THE MILITARY PERIOD!! If you are a leader all you have to do is look at the same sex sexual assaults to come to this conclusion!! They are already through the roof!!! So what you are going to ignore that and allow them to serve openly? If that is the case I think it is time for me to get out!!
- SGT SChatz, Fargo ND
8/2/2010 2:27:44 AM
The biggest problem is fear; fear of the unknown. If people are against repealing the policy based on moral grounds, then that morality is based on fear and not logic or common sense. I've shared a room with a homosexual my last deployment and he was extremely helpful to me when I had issues back home and he was also one of the more squared away individuals I'd ever met.
To kick someone out based on their sexual orientation is absurd and to be honest, un-American. We are supposed to be the leaders in showing the world that what matters most in contributing to a society is the character of a man(or woman).
- Lee, Iraq
8/2/2010 1:46:52 AM
I agree with you SPC Tjaden we are already living with them. Who cares. I say the more the merrier. One trend that i have noticed is that there are more males that feel uncomfortable with it then females. Is it that men are not comfortable with their own sexuality. Get a life people. Its about to be 2011 who cares!!!!
- PFC Fowler, South Korea
8/1/2010 8:45:15 PM
As long as you keep thinking that homosexuality is immoral and considered to be "bad", America will continue sliding backwards because of the inability to look into the future and the possibility of acceptance and tolerance. blah blah blah. In conclusion, without the ability to accept others, how are we going to leave behind racial problems, let alone sexuality.
- Brittany Rogan, Texas
8/1/2010 6:42:08 PM
First of all if you think they are only publishing the negative comments about this article, then why did they post yours? Maybe it is just that there are that many people out there that dont want the policy to change. My personal opinion, keep the "Dont ask, Dont tell Policy". If the policy is rescinded and homosexuals are allowed to openly join and serve, I morally do not think I could serve along side them. I will not share a 10'x10' room of a trailer with an openly gay soldier, nor would I feel comfortable taking a shower in the only showers available, communal showers. Living with an openly gay person would offend my beliefs as a Christian and eventually lead to a hostile environment, living with that for a year would be a major problem across the services I believe. Being Gay is a preference/lifestyle, it is not unchangeable piece of someones character.
- Mike, Balad, Iraq
8/1/2010 10:02:36 AM
I believe in equal rights for every human being, why we have to be intolerant with people 'cause they don't share our same religion, sexual orientation or color. Discrimination is the worst thing a person can do, we should follow what Jesus did, he love everyone of us equally. Be a better person and love your neighbor, doesn't matter what color, size, religion or sexual preference they have. Is a human like you.
- PFC Veronica Skidmore, Sullivan, IL
7/31/2010 10:56:17 PM
I have no problem with gays in the Army. They are already in, they just cannot be open about it. I have a problem with them having to hide it. Homosexuals should be forced to be open about it and be given their own barracks and showers. Otherwise, they should just have all males and females sharing barracks and showers.
- Michael, Texas
7/31/2010 8:27:02 PM
you serve with them everyday. Whats the difference why dont you guys open your eyes and look at the big picture not everybody who is gay wears fish nets and walks around like they are proud of it. They are just like you. Whats the difference. I am a husband of two children and if you were a good enough parent you wouldnt have to explain that to your child, its a normal thing now. Grow up.
- Chris, Afghanistan
7/31/2010 3:35:19 PM
Gays and Lesbians currently serve and will always serve this nation. It is a disparaging notion to believe that because you are gay or lesbian that you cannot serve your country. I am perplexed as to why soldiers and civilians speak of morals in the Army. We have one of, if not the highest divorce rate as far jobs go. Returning from Iraq almost nobody was still married and I noticed everybody breaking rules, cheating on spouses and dishonoring their vows to the Army as well as their spouses. Therefore, denying gays and lesbians the right to enter based upon our "high moral values" is absolutely absurd.
If you can fire a weapon accurately, take/follow orders and live the 7 Army Values I will welcome you into my Battery. PERIOD, it's a job, if you can do then you should be hired.
- Jeremy S., Tennessee
7/31/2010 3:32:18 PM
The UCMJ is not adhered to in cases of slander, verbal abuse, favoritism, sodomy, apft cheaters, embezzling (under certain amounts), waste, fraud, abuse of logistics and peronnel functions, fraternization, illegitimate children, dependent fraud, stupidity, immoral acts (sexual and non sexual). No where on an OER or an NCOER is there a box to be checked for married/single/divorced/jiggalo/prostitutes! No different than the laws discriminating blacks and women in uniform You, as an individual are taught tolerence under adversity, excercise those teachings. Get back to the task at hand, Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Courage, Honor, Integrity, Personal Courage!!
- Ann, CONUS
7/31/2010 2:30:05 PM
I would have loved to have received a survey, I am a female in barracks with a roomate who is a lesbian who thinks they are a male and are very open about it. By the way this person is not getting kicked out for being lasbian..this just goes against everything I believe to be moral and clean and thats just my own beliefs but, I have tried to be tolerant..I have not made an issue of it to any superiors but,I would probably be better off being forced to live with a male stranger who eyes me while I dress and stares at me while I am laying on my bed..I just cant even relax or be comfortable in my own room when off duty..I just want to run away from here to get away from this male/female all the time its really messing with my head and my ability to rest and sleep..so all you out there who think we dont know some are already here..WE DO KNOW!
- RC, Texas
7/31/2010 11:35:31 AM
I have my own opinions and ideas on the "Don't ask don't tell" policy. However, at this time I would have to say that abolishing it would be a bad move. The military has been known to make bold statements through policy change in the past and in this case the politicians are counting on it.
Whatever changes that are or are not to occur in the military should be done at the disgression of the military. If the higher ranking officers and NCO's think the time for military change is here, then they should take the time to ensure that all sides are considered and measures are taken to avoid upheaval within the ranks.
If the politicians and lobbiests in Washington think the time for military change is here, somebody should politely tell them to butt-out.
- Tamara, DEP
7/30/2010 8:57:53 PM
There is nothing in our Constitution that prohibits gays from being in the military. When we take the oath, it is to protect the Constitution and these United States. Everyone that lives in this country should have the right to take up arms to protect our country. Our Constitution gives each person three rights; life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The right to live, the right to be free, and the right to do those things that make us happy. We all have these rights. Being gay does not mean you lose these rights. We are all God's children. A song says it all "Jesus loves me this I know, because the Bible tells me so." Jesus loves us all, should we not love one another? Gays and Straights alike? Should we not teach our children to love one another, no matter who they are? Let’s not judge whether being gay is right or wrong, that judgment is God’s alone. Because, if I judge then I can then be judged. No one has a clean closet.
- David, Oklahoma
7/30/2010 6:31:46 PM
I have to agree with not allowing them to serve openly. I know there here and have had to deal with a few. As an EOL I am only lead to believe that this assigned duty will become a permanent job and a new MOS. I can assure you all whether you’re for or against this is going to seriously impact the forces as a whole. Maybe not quickly as everyone may think but given time and those who become complacent will not only begin to file formal EO complaints but will also claim a “Hate Crime” simply out of spite of someone who does not wish to be involved. This is very serious and traitorous ground that we are going to be forced to except, and I promise you it will hurt the forces beyond repair.I too as well would like to receive the survey.
- JB, Germany
7/30/2010 3:55:39 PM
You are already living with them, deploying with them. I think it is fair enough to allow them to continue being in and join the army without punsihment for who they love. You love your wives and husbands, without punishment. It isn't like the idea of homosexuality is alien... They are human beings with right just like everyone else. They shouldn't get kicked out for it, this policy will protect them from that. They don't have to tell you that they are gay, just as you don't have to tell anyone you are straight. It is already happening!!
- SPC Tjaden, Ft. Bragg, NC
7/30/2010 3:25:18 PM
Seems only the negitive responses are being posted. What a sham this whole thing is.
- NJH, Ft. Drum
7/30/2010 1:22:36 PM
What is broken, the current policy works! It is largely an integrity test, that we all signed on for. To follow certain rules and behave a certain way. If folks violate that they do so by choice! By rescinding the rule the US Armed Forces will encounter a protected class and create problems. I am no more allowed to commit adultery, take illegal drugs so if we remove standards then where do we stop?
The country that stands for everything, stands for nothing.
- Mark, Missouri
7/30/2010 1:18:23 PM
I have over 18 years in the Army currently active and know the Army has morals, standards and values. But if the military would take a short step back and look at this from a soldiers perspective and not the outside civilian public we might be a better overall force. Ask yourself this, If you were to live in Military housing and raise your kids with a same sex couple living across from you, how would you instill morals and values in your kids? Unit cohesion and moral would suffer to have homosexuals in the service. The Military has always had a high standard let’s not bring it down because of some few folks say that it would be politically correct to allow them in. When you lower a standard like that there will be 2nd and 3rd order of effects that will take years to repair. I do not believe in Quantity but Quality. Do not just let everyone in the Military we need to be more selective in our future endeavors. Please send me the survey so I can voice my opinion a bit more
- Joe, Ft. Bragg
7/30/2010 12:32:11 PM
If you are talking about whether Gay/Lesbian individuals should be allowed to sexually harrass heterosexual individuals, then they should be punished under UCMJ just as anyone else. Being Gay/Lesbian is a "Sexual Preference" PERIOD!!! We need to stop giving in to the notion that it is a lifestyle! If we start enforcing the "No Public Displays of Affection" rule, which is in the UCMJ regulation, then where is the issue?
God teaches us to love the sinner (including Gay/Lesbian personnel); he also teaches us to hate the sin! Since no particular sin is greater in the eyes of God, who are we to say they shouldn't be allowed to serve? I personally believe that being Gay/Lesbian is a choice that individual makes; I know this is an unpopular belief. If a Gay/Lesbian individual wants to serve in the military, and is willing to be held to the same Standards of Conduct and Dress as everyone else, I say let them serve!
- cheryl, Fort Bragg
7/30/2010 12:26:46 PM
Don't get me wrong, this will be a challenge for our Leaders at all levels. People who are very closed minded are going to have a hard time accepting, and most of all supporting change. But, don't forget that not long ago it was unheard of for whites, blacks and women to serve together because of the implications it would cause. If you are still skeptical on that debate, look at where we are today on that issue. I am very thankful for each and every Human Being who serves our great Nation. They are a part of a very small population who have and for the sake of our all volunteer force will continue to serve proudly, and in the near future openly!
- Richard, FT Dix NJ
7/30/2010 11:34:18 AM
In the military we are forced to live in quarters with one to five other people, or even more in some cases. We have communal showers and living areas. We have not had many problems with people being homosexual and keeping it to themselves. Now, with this repeal in the works, things are going to change, DRAMATICALLY. We are going to have, like so many others have said, hostile work environments, housing issues, hygiene issues, mission effectiveness issues, etc. You are going to have to re-write so many policies and open the door to many more EO violations and sexual harassment cases. Everything is about perception now. Think of the problems with sexual harassment that could arise because of this. Is it worth all that?
- Brooke, Cuba
7/30/2010 11:26:34 AM
The US military is an all volunteer force. It is clear that homosexual activity is not tolerated and every soldier is asked questions on his/her sexual preference prior to enlistment/commissioning to ensure this policy is clear. Homosexuals should not be serving in our military today nor should they be allowed to serve in the future. Current policies in combat zones prohibit cohabitation between males/females. The difficulties in keeping both males/females separate are daunting. By allowing gays to serve in our military we would open the floodgates. How would a leader prohibit a man/woman from cohabitation but allow two gays to bunk together? How would showers/restrooms be setup? Would we actually ask military leaders to plan gay observance seminars? Changing the current policy will do nothing to strengthen our military. Allowing gays to openly serve in our ranks will surely detract from the mission we must complete and will put an incredible strain on our fighting force.
- Rob, Fort Rucker, AL
7/30/2010 8:16:04 AM
To drop the don't ask don't tell policy would cause a lot of problems and cost the military more money.Soldiers would want personal showers so they wouldn't be self concious about whos taking showers with them and if they're staring at their bodies. It's about who they can trust and who they can't. It;s not just males or just females they have queers in both sexs. A soldier should be able to trust and be comfortable with their fellow soldiers.
- Celia, Tulsa, Ok
7/29/2010 7:46:48 PM
Allowing those who practice homosexuality to do so openly while serving in the military is a joke. Our enemies will mock us, and our friends will be ashamed. Everyone knows that this is a Leftist agenda issue that has very little to do with actual justice and everything to do with politics and power. Allowing soldiers who practice homosexuality to do so openly is a contradiction to our vow to be "morally strong" anyway. I also think that the male/female sexual relationships that are not in marriage should also be "Don't ask, don't tell" as they undermine the "morally strong" vow as well.
I for one, am sick of hearing the endless heterosexual sex stories in my unit now; I can only imagine what it will be like when the gay sex stories start rolling in.
- Josh, MI
7/29/2010 5:58:00 PM
we are lead to believe this is about tolerance, and good will, but the truth is it has little to do with any of that...What better forum to put your agenda front and center of the world stage than the United States armed forces?! We as soldiers follow orders and obey the laws, rules and regulations set before us no matter what our personal convictions are. We all know a change to don't ask don't tell will be fare reaching in as the current EO policies will need to be revised, living conditions/situations will be changed, UCMJ will need to be revised. When will it stop? Will transsexuals now be allowed to dawn the uniform, men in drag? The point is, once the door is open, GOD knows what will what through next!
- Albert Hawkins, Arizona
7/29/2010 5:55:25 PM
I also have not been selected as of yet to take the survey, and every link that I follow to express my opinion leads to a dead end. I don't feel like that is fair.
- Patrick Cunningham, conus
7/29/2010 4:27:20 PM
i hope all of those commenting realize the actual policy of the us military: gays and lesbians (even some transgendered indivuals) ALREADY SERVE!.
this outdated law just makes it so victims of spousal abuse can't go to the cops with fear of loosing their jobs. and it saves the army a couple of bucks.
- j, sacto, ca
7/29/2010 4:05:05 PM
I agree with the person who said that we're "...not approaching the issue from a military standpoint", rather we're doing it as that of a civilian organization". We cannot dismiss or overlook the fact that the military is a unique organization, with unique situations, and unique expectations and obligations that we place on our soldiers. Civilian organizations, for the most part, do not operate within these same contraints. Many soldiers don't think twice about giving their lives for our freedom because they know that they can rely on a buddy to have their back. Like it or not, right or wrong, throwing the "homosexual dynamic" into the mix will not yield the same unquestioned and unwavering loyalty and committment.
- mary, missouri
7/29/2010 3:21:00 PM
Personal beliefs aside, I agree that it will be a problem given the closeness of what soldiers do and how they live. If you want to serve fine, however you need to play by the rules and there are reasons behind why women can't serve in cambat arms MOS's and reasons why Homosexuals can't serve openly. If you can't play those rules and can't understand the reason don't join. It will be a problem, it is now if someone is even suspected of being gay.
- Jim, White Sands
7/29/2010 1:58:05 PM
Wake up, everyone. DADT doesn't stop gays and lesbians from being in the military; they are already there, they just can't say anything about what gender they prefer. They are there. They are in the infantry. They are in headquarters. They are in intel. They are in field artillery. So if they are there, why shouldn't everyone know? As a matter of fact, once a homosexual figures out you don't "swing that way," they rarely will make an advance at all. So don't worry, people. You are safe.
The points against DADT are simply illogical. Next you will be saying "If you aren't Christian, you can't tell anyone." Think that's absurd? I've had more people try to convert my religion than any homosexual friends have hit on me, and they don't just go away when they find out you don't want to convert to their way of thinking. Talk about uncomfortable and a detriment to morale...
- Ed, Hawaii
7/29/2010 11:54:43 AM
I don't see this as an issue of tolerance or intolerance. The issue I see is that until we have a Federal law in place for same sex marriage, allowing gays to serve openly creates alot of other issues. The military would then need to make provisions for housing, medical care and other major benefits for the significant others of Gay men and women serving, because how can we allow gay men and women to serve and possibly die for their country, and then not provide death benefits to their surviving significant other. Repealing "Don't ask, Don't tell", this country isn't prepared to deal with all that entails.
- AEE, CONUS
7/29/2010 9:42:23 AM
One of the reasons many have not taken this survey is that there is a glitch. If you are a reservist (or ARNG) using a personal computer without a secure net or unable to log on with your CAC, your computer may block the survey, your browser may not allow you to submit your survey, or the actual site may not allow admittance.
My opinion is that one's sexual gender preference is irrelevant. One's behavior, not one's preference is the important principle. I think that prejudice of any sort is unacceptable in the military. I am a menopausal heterosexual female. I find it abhorrent to have to fend off advances from an individual with whom I have to work. It's the behavior is what matters. When someone says "no", accept that answer and move on or you will ruin your working relationship, your friendship, and all or any trust which may have been established.
- Martha C. Snowden, Lawrenceville, GA
7/29/2010 9:28:33 AM
The antiquated belief that human sexuality is predisposed solely between man and woman shows the height of ignorance at best, and hatred and fear of difference at worst. From a biological perspective, it is true that only a man and woman can reproduce. On the other hand, since relative intelligence and moral comportment are on the decline in American society, it begs the question if so many in this country should reproduce at all. Heterosexuals, especially those in the military, can legitimately claim no moral high ground on this issue when examining the sexual behavior of many Soldiers on the weekends, weekdays and holidays, etc. At the very least there should only be equality in the ranks. Gay Soldiers should be in a country where they can volunteer to risk their lives to fight for freedom and the pursuit of happiness; they should not be in a country where they are relegated to fight to defend ignorance and injustice.
- John, Ft. Sam Houston
7/29/2010 9:21:41 AM
I believe that if you intergrate homosexuals into the mainstream military, you are asking for a whole lot of issues. Take a look at the current situation the nation is in and ask yourself are we truly ready to take on this delicate issue. I will say no and look at the ramifacations that would be involved. This is one organization that should be left alone. It has been said before, this will be an EO nightmare. Despite what the american public think, the soldier, sailor, marine, and airman do not agree with this new change. I don't have a problem with homosexuals. I'm just saying, if you want to be homosexual, then get out of the military.
- Richard, Ft. Bragg, NC
7/29/2010 8:15:12 AM
Why do we have separate shower facilities for male and female? It is because of the sexual attraction that exists between the sexes. We would never accept common showers for males and females because of the sexual nature. However, now we want to allow openly gay and lesbian service members to serve. They have a sexual attraction for the same sex...and will be showering in same sex facilities. How is this any different than common male/female showers?
Secondly, family day activities and military balls will become things of the past. My wife and I do not want to have to explain to our children a same sex relationship couple. We believe it is an immoral choice and has no place in the military culture.
- lem, Afghanistan
7/29/2010 7:56:19 AM
The military has always led social changes for the betterment of our nation; racial integration and women's rights just to name two. Many say you can’t compare race or gender to the question of homosexuality and it's a choice. Well nobody just decides to be hated or discriminated against. Nobody chooses to be gay. Unfortunately, 95% percent of people with dissenting opinions on repealing DADT are simply motivated by generations of hatred and open discrimination regarding homosexuality-most of which stems from their religious beliefs! Instinctually it’s perceived as question of their own personal morality or religious convictions and our natural human behavior to impose our beliefs on others. Most gay and bisexual people do not and will not suddenly start advertising their personal orientation or what they do behind closed doors-at least no more than heterosexuals do! It’s time to stop clinging to our irrational fears and start being the country, the people, the military we say we are!
- MEI, Washington DC
7/29/2010 12:41:06 AM
If immoral homosexuality becomes OK, when does lying, cheating, stealing, rape, murder, pediphilia, etc.? Immorality is immorality, regardless of the political clout of those who participate. The listing of Army ethics includes moral behavior; I guess this one will have to go when homosexuals achieve their goal of repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". And, by the way, "discrimination" should not mean that decent people can no longer oppose evil, sinfulness, and immorality. Even if "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is repealed, I pray to God that decent people will continue to oppose immorality; otherwise, this Nation is lost to evil.
- Rick, Korea
7/28/2010 4:19:09 PM
I believe that if a person wants to willing serve their country they should be allowed to and not judged just because of their sexual preference. Just because a person likes people of the same sex doesn't mean they will hit on you. If it does come to that, that is where EO reps and sexual harassment training come in. Someone's sexual preference doesn't make them any less of a person than the next individual. Thats just like saying i would rather be in a tent with a convict rather than a gay person. Like the bible says, no one sin outweighs the other, they are both wrong. It's not for us as people to judge that though. I just believe that it doesnt matter what their sexual perference is as long as their mind frame is to serve and protect the people of the united states of america, then they should be able to.
- kenyetta, ft.campbell, KY
7/28/2010 3:41:40 PM
Well, if we are going to allow openly gay military members into the military, then why even have segregation for the military based on gender? Why not just allow women and men to live together, sleep side by side, use the same bathrooms, shower together, etc? What is the difference? You are not talking about intolerance here, the current policy is for them to keep their sexual orientation to themselves. Anyone who really believes this wouldn't create a massive problem for units, especially those in a war zone, is seriously fooling themselves. From being deployed, I have seen the ramifications of soldiers who even remotely claim to be bi or gay, and it causes huge problems in the unit, the comradery is shot, and the leadership never is able to get things back to the way they were.
- SSG Bob, USA
7/28/2010 3:26:45 PM
This is like wondering if African Americans should be free or if women should be allowed to vote. This is never going to go away. People are who they are, and are already serving in the Armed Forces. Please stop looseing great people by discriminating against them.
- Nicolas Hamlin, Ft. Drum
7/28/2010 2:56:53 PM
Not sure what the point of the survey is, unless it's to lay a foundation for a service-sponsored argument against repeal of DADT. If the Army had surveyed the predominantly white, male force prior to integration of blacks or females, what would the results have looked like? And would the Army have used such survey results to resist change?
- SR, US
7/28/2010 12:52:36 PM
I believe that it is time for people to stop being intolerant of others and understand that these individuals that have been deemed immoral by society but yet have chosen to defend this great Nation be given the right to love whomever they please and serve openly. If the military is a family why do we hate those that are different. As a Hispanic female, who am I to judge. Racism and prejudice haunts this great Country and while in a time of war we should be embracing individuals who are not afraid to take it upon themselves to join the fight. They are in now and they might be your friends, the person you confide to about your marital or relationship issues but they remain silent because they might be afraid of what you might think of them. Let us start rebuilding this nation and make it the nation that it once was, stop worrying about who a person chooses to love, lets worry about the economy, education and how to restore this powerful nation back to its glory. GOD BLESS AMERICA
- Jennifer, California
7/28/2010 10:28:53 AM
The US Military has always adapted to the changes in our generations. It is already passed due to revoke this policy. As far as i know, We are supposed to be an Equal Opportunity Employer and by rejecting gay and lesbians from serving it is not only against our so called ARMY Values of Integirty, Loyalty, Duty, Honor, Respect, Self-Service, and Personal Courage. Also, We can't not discriminate against others just because of what person beliefs or thinks about something.
- Alvin Ruiz , NorthEast USA
7/28/2010 8:55:09 AM
The only way this could ever possibly work, is to have one gay male living with one gay female. This would avoid any unwanted attention from either party. Personally, I think the Army is gay enough as it is, and doesn't need any improvement. And I know my fellow combat arms guys deal with the gayness on a day to day basis.
- Matt, USA
7/28/2010 8:38:29 AM
"It's not about being intolerant. It's about sharing a room or tent (for a year) with a man who may be openly, sexually attracted to you."
As opposed to the man who may be unopenly, sexually attracted to you.
Figure it out. There are homosexuals in the military. The only thing the repealing of DADT will do is offer the knowledge that an individual is homosexual. Whether you know or not, homosexuals serve in the military. In spite of what some might say, the repealing of DADT will not cause a mass of men hitting on men and women hitting on women.
- Kyle, Kansas
7/28/2010 8:24:51 AM
I was there in 1980 when the Military tried to go completely "co-ed" and I'm there now. We are still having issues with that. There are "safeguards" under DADT that were not there before. IMHO, unfortunately, it's a mistake to repeal or allow "lifestyle" into the current dynamics.
I'm surprised they are even asking us, they'll do what they want.
- Mike, Houston
7/28/2010 4:53:46 AM
I am not intolerant but I do have an issue in regard to having openly homosexual soldiers serving in our military. Is the military ready to change UCMJ? EO structure? Shower accomidations? Barracks? Is tri-care going to accept their "partners"? Are we going to build new barracks to keep the homophobes seperate? This is not about freedom this is more about politics. From a military perspective this action would do more harm than good. It will completely compramise the mission and compramise the focus of our already stressed out and tired military. The soldiers who are currently serving and keeping their sexual preference a secret is fine. (Thank you for your service) If we dont know it will not distract us. Think about the soldiers instead of your voters Washington!!!
- Goodwin, Korea
7/27/2010 7:42:19 PM
I think we need to keep the policy the way it is. I can't see them in Marines, all combat arms in the Army or with Seal teams. I know they are gay service members that are in and do a wonderful job. But the military is about cohesion and unity. Chaplains will have a issues with it as far as marriage counseling or other issues that states don't even recogninze. Look at the military family, you have your sevice member, wife, and kids living in housing on an installation as I see it on JBLM. What about the Balls that the service member where the uniform the wife is in a gown. We have a tradition in the military. They will want all benefits as a regular couple has, BAH, housing, health care. Living quarters for single service members will put the icing on the cake. I lived in barracks I had a room mate. Could you imagine the Marines barracks? It's trouble I think we should just leave it the way it is. I wonder how they would change UCMJ.
- KDR, JBLM, WA
7/27/2010 7:34:42 PM
I cannot believe some of the postings I'm reading of the Soldiers that are intolerant and exercising bigotry. Our military has had to evolve to be non-discriminatory towards all. It used to have issues concerning race and gender and has since corrected these shortcomings. Now finally the last hurdle (sexual orientation) needs to be finally corrected as well. it doesn't matter if you are black or white, male or female, gay or straight... we are all born the way our creator intended. I noticed that some have said that it would be chaos if the ban were to be lifted. I say that it would have little to no effect. Most fortune 500 companies as well as most employers do not discriminate against sexual orientation. Isn't our military an equal opportunity employer? If the European military can operate ok with no ban, why can't ours?
- Jim, Minneapolis, MN
7/27/2010 11:31:14 AM
I didn't get a survey. I would have liked to participate in this survey!
- Mary Lewis, Ft. Riley
7/27/2010 10:53:00 AM
Our country’s freedom has never been free. We pay and have paid dearly whether its time away from our families, friends, and Country. What is not debatably is we will never get back yesterday. Therefore, if our Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and recruits can and will pay with their lives now, we can be tolerant now for the sake of our country’s liberties for our children. If we cannot or will not our indifference to change not only will contribute to global insecurities as well as the overall security of our Nation. Having said that, it is time we honor those who are willing to defend our freedoms including their own.
- LLB, DC
7/27/2010 9:15:49 AM
There's too much risk involved in allowing Soldiers who choose to be gay to serve "openly."
The media has exposed the hate crimes. My concern is that if personnel choose to say I'm gay just so that everybody knows or those within listening distance, they are only endangering themselves to those who strongly oppose homosexuality.
I personally do not care either way, but I'd hate to see Soldiers become victims of hate crimes just because they think they are safe because we would then allow them to voice their sexual preference.
I also think that their sexual preference should be used as an "excuse" to be chaptered out of the Army. I think we've all heard that one, one too many times. Thanks Pauly Shore.
- Jimmy, NCR
7/27/2010 6:52:19 AM
I believe homosexuality is immoral and there is no place for it in the military. The friction that will be caused by open homosexuality will be enomrmous. Hostile work environments will begin to appear. There will be a call for separate ammenities for homosexuals, such as separate sleeping quarters in the field, just to name one. It already exists for females that feel uncomfortable living in the same quarters as males. If this policy disappears, you will have straight males feeling uncomfortable around homosexual males. This will create an EO nightmare. You are living in a dazed dream world if you believe that the average soldier is "OK" with homosexuals in the military.
- chad, Iraq
7/27/2010 1:04:02 AM
I think that it isn't right and gay/lesbians should stop pushing to try to make it right. It is changing what this whole county was built on. A man and woman are make babies. What if we had all females? or all males on earth? Everyone would die because no one could make babies.
- Christopher, Maryland
7/26/2010 8:21:54 PM
It's not about being intolerant. It's about sharing a room or tent (for a year) with a man who may be openly, sexually attracted to you.
- Matt, CONUS
7/26/2010 2:55:17 PM
I am just a little confused about why have they only chosen certain individuals to take this survey. The entire military should be allowed at least to take it. Having that said I am currently serving full time, but I belong to a reserve component. I have tried to check the link and it seems to be blocked or not working. Is anyone else having the same problem?
- ALVIN RUIZ , North East USA
7/26/2010 1:24:11 PM
I don't think we are approaching the issue from a military standpoint. We are trying to look at this as a normal civilian organization. As soldiers we live with each other in close quarters, shower in common areas, and have to perform tasks that are more intimate than a civilian organization. I think you have to ask yourself, are we ready to integrate male and female latrines, showers, quarters, and CTT tasks? If so, then maybe we are ready to serve openly. I know there are gay soldiers in the Army currently, however, if you were to advertise it I think you would be risking your own personal well being, and putting a strain on the discipline of the unit.
- Eric, Ft. Campbell, KY
7/24/2010 4:53:09 PM
i believe people just need to stop being intollerant. This is the 21st century and all were doing is spending more time judging others when we have a mission/job to complete. This petty little high school games need to stop. There is no difference between girls being afraid and nervous each day from guys looking at them, then guys/girls looking at the same sex. So, soildiers need to get thir head straight, grow up and do thier job.
- andy, camp taji