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DoD photo by Glenn Fawcett.  (Released) Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton B. Carter, left, and former Secretary of Defense William Perry listen to former Secretary of State George P. Shultz, right, as he makes a point during a conversation at the North American Forum conference in Ottawa, Canada, on Oct. 13, 2012. Carter earlier addressed the audience of the conference.   DoD photo by Glenn Fawcett. (Released)

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