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hearing is fully virtual . And so I'm

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going to address a few more

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housekeeping matters . For today's

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meeting , the chair of our staff

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designated by the chair in a mute

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microphones from the participants When

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members , you are responsible for

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muting and unmoving yourself . If I

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noticed you have not unneeded yourself ,

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witnesses . We do have a 5:00 that you

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next member until the issue is resolved

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that . So I won't make sure everybody

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you're in the grid mode , which is

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time is remaining at one minute . The

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clock will turn yellow at 30 seconds

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remaining . I will gently tap the gavel

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to remind members of the time has

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almost expired when your time has

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expired . The clock will turn red and I

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will begin to recognize the next member .

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In terms of speaking order , we will

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follow the order set forward by house

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rules , uh meeting beginning with the

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chair and the ranking member and the

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full chair of the committee is with us .

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Mr Laura will follow that . Then

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members present at the time of the

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hearing is called order . You will be

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recognized in seniority when members

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who are not present . Uh They will also

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be recognized as they come into the

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hearing . Finally , the rules of the

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house required me to remind you that we

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have set up an email address twitch

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Members can send anything they wish to

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submit in writing at any of our

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hearings or mark ups . And uh with that ,

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as I said , the subcommittee on defense

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will come to order . We do have two

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members will not be present with us

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today and that is uh congressman Ryan

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and congresswoman Kaptur there in this

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great state of Ohio with the President

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of the United States this afternoon .

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The committee will receive testimony

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from the honourable Lloyd Austin ,

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Secretary of Defense and General Mark

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Milley , chairman of the Joint Chiefs .

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Gentlemen , I thank you for

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participating and I welcome you to the

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subcommittee For our members . This is

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our 19th and final hearing before we

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start writing the 2022 spending bill

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and we appreciate your time in your

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attention , the subcommittee's business

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and I hope committee , this is the last

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hearing we will hold on webex . Uh

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so let us begin . President Biden's

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fiscal year 2022 budget request

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proposes $715 billion $11 billion

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dollars more than the enacted level .

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To put that mountain perspective in his

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last year in office , President Trump

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only requested an $800 million dollar

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increase . And six years ago the d .

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$506 billion

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$144

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billion dollars in the last six years .

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No matter how much we provide our armed

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forces , some will always argue it's

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not enough . There will always be new

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and increasing the expensive

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technologies to develop . Other

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countries will always be pursuing

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programs that they believe are

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strategically advantaged advantageous

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to them . Unlike other committees , the

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job of appropriators is to see the full

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picture as much attention to the top

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line for defense receives . We cannot

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consider the defense number in a vacuum .

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Investments in diplomacy , development

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and our economy are vital to our

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national security interests . There is

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no military miter , no country was

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stronger allies , no government that

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has done more to help people across the

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world than the United States of America .

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The key to successful competition with

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Russia and china is through a

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combination economic diploma ,

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diplomatic and military strength . one

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by itself is not enough . In many of

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our hearings , we have heard witnesses

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describe china's effort to modernize

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its military and expand its influence

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around the world . We cannot fall into

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the trap of thinking that China is 10

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ft tall to quote a person that I

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admired . but we will not allow for the

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capability gaps in key weapons systems

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so that we can deteriorate our

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adversaries and defend our nation . I

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look forward to reviewing the

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president's budget fully in through the

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lens that I described tomorrow . We

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have a responsibility to scrutinize

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every line in the budget request and to

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rest assure that our committee will

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fulfill its constitutional duty and

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make adjustments to the President's

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proposal . I agree with the

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administration . We need to make

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difficult choices and we will make them

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together . We must modernize . Doing so

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requires sustainably to make

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investments in new technologies , but

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to ramp down spending on systems that

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we know are not capable or survivable

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in a high end fight , we simply cannot

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spend taxpayer's dollars on ineffective

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platforms . Additionally , we must face

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the realities of the world in which we

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live . Climate change significantly

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impacts our security . The displacement

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of millions of people can have a

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destabilizing effect in regions prone

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to insecurity . We have too many

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installations that are susceptible to

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extreme weather events , which leads to

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many days when our troops cannot train .

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For the Department of Defense .

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Combating climate change isn't about

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engaging in social politics and is the

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largest user of energy in the federal

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government . We must work with the

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department to make more energy more

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energy efficient , which will make them

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even more effective and prevent our

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adversaries from targeting our energy

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supplies . With 2.1 million uniform

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personnel in the department and service

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is facing the same problems that plague

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our society , extremism and sexual

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assault . We know funding alone cannot

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solve our nation's societal problems

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and look forward to hearing our

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witnesses discuss what they're doing on

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these important issues . I want to

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close by thanking the Department of

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Defense for the incredible work they

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have done in battling covid 19 pandemic

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on behalf of our nation , from our

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health care and medical research

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personnel , to those providing

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logistical support to the National

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Guard soldiers delivering shots in

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their communities . I want to thank you

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for your service in this difficult year

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on behalf of the entire committee . And

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finally we are holding this request

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just days before the release of the

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full budget . So we understand that

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this may limit your ability to answer

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certain questions . However , given the

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tight time frame , we will have to

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write this bill . I ask that you and

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your staff be prepared to respond to

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members and our staff on any specific

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budget question asked today immediately

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after the full request is submitted .

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But now I'd like to recognize our

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distinguished ranking member Mr calvert

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for his comments . Thank you . Chairman

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column . I I want to thank Secretary

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Austin General Milley for being here

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today over the past several months ,

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the subcommittee has heard testimony

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from military service leadership

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outside think tanks , intelligence

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agencies and our geographic combat with

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commanders . We've heard how our

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military continues carry out a wide

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range of missions from humanitarian

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assistance , two contested combat

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operations and their task to do so in a

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rapidly involving threat environment .

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The 2018 National Defense Strategy

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clearly outlined how the Department of

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Defense needs to reform to keep pace

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with our adversaries . The National

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Defense Strategy Commission also

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recommended a 3-5% increase adjusted

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for inflation in order to ensure our

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military has the tools it needs . We

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must invest in advanced technologies

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for all warfighting domains ,

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especially space and cyber . We know

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that to maintain our warfighting edge ,

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the department also needs to reform and

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prove business practices , workforce

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and planning process to accomplish many

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of these goals . It's vital that we

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provide steady and predictable funding

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for the D . O . D . Along with regular

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and proper oversight . That's why I'm

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greatly concerned by both the level of

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defense budget request for the fiscal

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year 2022 and a significant delay in

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delivering it to Congress . I

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frequently talk about how damaging

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continuing resolutions are to our

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military , especially in acquisition

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efforts . I'm afraid to do to the

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requested funding level and the delay

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in the budget submission . We may be

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headed toward a continuing resolution .

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In addition , we need to have serious

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discussions about the digester of many

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war fighting platforms , some of which

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are vaguely defined as legacy . I

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understand that in the era of great

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power competition , our military must

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be modernized , ready and lethal to

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address these threats from adversaries

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like china . I am serious concerns

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regarding the diodes , plans to invest

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or decommissioned platforms that are in

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high demand or have much service life

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left in them . Two of these come to

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mind are the MQ nine reaper and the

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Littoral Combat Ship . Almost every

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combatant command has told the

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subcommittee that they need more , not

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less . Empty , empty nine access .

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However , the Air Force keeps proposing

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to divest even more concerning is that

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there isn't something that will

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immediately replace the mission often D .

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O . D . And the services proposed at

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the best one system and replace it with

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a system that is just an unproven

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concept . Congress has made it a

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position our position clear but we do

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we do not accept hope as a viable

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replacement regarding the LCS . We

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spent over $2 billion four ships , $2

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billion four ships with significant

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service life left . That's an Avian

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proposal decommission in the FY 21

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budget . Congress reviewed the request

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and was very clear that we oppose the

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Decommissioning of the l . c . s .

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three and 4 and they should be used in

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the south . Um They are it's my

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understanding that the navy is ignoring

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congressional intent And well again

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propose to decommission these very same

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ships in the FY 22 budgets . They have

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done little work to communicate with

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Congress to change our position . In my

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opinion . This is a little more than a

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budget temic to allow the navy to spend

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more money elsewhere . I agree there

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are some systems that must be retired

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to make way for a newer more effective

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systems . However the O . D . Cannot

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make these decisions in a vacuum .

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There must be more transparency and

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communication with Congress to send up

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the same proposal that Congress has

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previously opposed and expect a

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different outcome I believe is ill

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advised . D . O . D . And the services

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should be up here making their case in

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advance of these proposals . I went

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through the war on a

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previous platform . It didn't work out

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too well and uh we don't want to do

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that again today . I would like to hear

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about the many issues facing the

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Department of Defense . First , the

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subcommittee has discussed in great

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detail the current efforts to withdraw

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forces from Afghanistan very concerned

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about the decision to remove forces and

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the timeline for doing so . However ,

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that decision has been made . So how do

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we ensure those individuals who risk

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their lives to help us forces are being

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taken care of ? Many colleagues of mine

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are concerned specifically about the

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Afghan interpreters . I share that

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concern , but also where there are many

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other individuals at great risk . Also ,

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I look forward to hearing the

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department's plan to ensure their

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safety . I look forward to reviewing

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these and other decisions for the

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fiscal year 2022 budget requests which

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hopefully will be submitted to us

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tomorrow . And thank you and again for

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taking time and you go back to the

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house of my timeshare , appreciate it .

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Thank you very much . Mr calvert . Well

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today I'm very pleased to say we are

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joined by the full committee

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appropriations Chairwoman Rosa Dolora

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mr laura . Please go ahead with your

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opening statement . Thank you so much .

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Chair McCullum and and to you . Ranking

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member calvert as well for holding this

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hearing . And I want to say thank you

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to Secretary Austin and Chairman Millie

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for testifying . I also want to say

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thank you to both of you for your many

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years of dedicated service to our

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country . As a nation , we will always

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be indebted to our women and men in

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uniform and to the families and

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communities who support them . And as

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we approach Memorial Day , we hold in

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our prayers , the families of service

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members who have made the ultimate

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sacrifice . And the best way for

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Congress to honor this service is by

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maintaining peace . Peace is a light in

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a world full of darkness . It is hard

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won , hard kept and easily lost . And

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so although it may seem paradoxical

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investing in national security , even

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in the instruments of war is

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fundamental to ensuring lasting peace .

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No one on this panel needs to be

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reminded of the many threats that the

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United States faces . China is an

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increasingly fierce competitor . While

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Russia continues to be an aggressive

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and aggressive revisionist power .

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Countries like Iran and North Korea

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pose unique challenges to our forces .

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And while international terrorism

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remains a serious issue , At the same

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time , we was managing the lingering

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effects of the COVID-19 pandemic ,

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navigated rapidly shifting

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technological landscape and act on the

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existential threat of climate change .

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President biden's fiscal year 2022

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discretionary requests of $715 billion

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represents an $11 billion increase for

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the Department of Defense . Many of the

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funds and the requests are essential to

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protecting our national security today

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and modernizing the D . O . D . For

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tomorrow . I hope you will expand

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on your vision and give us the

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specifics and how this top line number

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increases efficiency and lethality uh

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in the upcoming fiscal year . A

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particular importance this includes

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countering china by investing in state

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of the art technology to ensure there

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is no capability gap between american

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and chinese weapons are service members

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should never enter an unfair fight .

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This budget proposals help to support

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investments in cutting edge weapons

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systems and forward looking research

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that supports the american economy and

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strengthens our capabilities . I'm also

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pleased at the discretionary request

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includes significant investments to

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address climate change . Climate change

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is a national security threat , and the

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investments in this proposal will

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improve the resiliency of military

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installations and make D . O . D .

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Operations more sustainable . And

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finally this request uphold the

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integrity of our armed forces ,

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strengthens the military's quality of

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life by addressing sexual assault ,

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violent extremism and the other issues

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that have plagued our military's ranks .

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The Department of Defense is crucial to

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advancing our national security . And I

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look forward to hearing more about how

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you will meet the challenges facing our

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nation and the resources you need to do

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so . And with that I say thank you to

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chair McCullum and two ranking member

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calvert and I yield back . Thank you

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madam . Chair gentlemen , your full

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written testimony will be placed in the

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record and members have lots of

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questions for you , so feel free to

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give a summarised of your statement .

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Uh Secretary Austin the floor . Is

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yours

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okay ?

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Secretary Austin ? We cannot hear you .

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I cannot hear you . I can

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Kyle . Is there anything we can do at

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our end ? I'm checking now .

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The cops checked worked earlier . So

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you know what changed ? This is not on

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our end , ma'am . It's on

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the , it's uh , if you can , if you can

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hear me gentlemen , we've checked our

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coms and archives is fine . So they're

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saying it's something with , with a

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near system at the pentagon .

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Chairman , calm , can you hear me ?

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Chairman Millie ? I can hear you if you

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gentlemen wish to share Mix . However ,

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I'm sure you know how to share yourself ,

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you know ? Can you hear me now ? Yes ,

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I can so well ,

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I'm sorry about that again . As was

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stated , it did work during the test

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fire . So I apologize for that . We've

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had our share of technical difficulties .

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Are our crew appreciates what you just

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went through . Support Mercer chair ,

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mccollum , ranking member calvert and

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charitable roo and members of the

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committee . Thank you for the

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opportunity to testify today About the

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president's budget request for fiscal

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year 22 . I'm pleased to appear before

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you alongside General Milley , whose

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advice and counsel has been

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instrumental to us as we develop our

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budget and as we continue to defend

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this nation , which is our keep

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responsibility and my top priority

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members as you know , the President's

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budget has not yet been released , but

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I will do my very best to provide you

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as much information as possible about

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what we are asking for and more

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importantly , why we are asking for it .

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Let me say at the outset that I believe

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our budget request will help us match

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our resources to strategy , strategy to

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policy and policy to the will of the

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american people informed by the

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president's interim national security

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guidance and my own message to the

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force . It funds the right mix of

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capabilities that we need to most ,

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that we need most to defend this nation

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now in the future . It invests in

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hypersonic weapons , artificial

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intelligence , micro electronics , five

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G technology , cyber capabilities ,

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shipbuilding , climate change ,

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resilience and nuclear modern

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modernization , to name a few . And it

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gives us the flexibility to divest

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ourselves of systems and platforms that

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do not adequately meet our needs

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include older ships and aircraft . And

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I . S . Are platforms that demand more

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maintenance and upkeep and risk than we

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can afford . As you know , we've

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commissioned a global posture review

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and a new national defense strategy

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which will further inform and guide our

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resource decision . The department must

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be ready to meet and keep pace with our

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competitors and if necessary to to win

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the next fights . They're not the last

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ones . That's why this budget stays

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true to our focus on matching the

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pacing challenge we see from the

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people's Republic of China . However ,

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we recognize that this is not our only

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channel . The budget also invest in

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efforts to counter the damaging effects

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of climate change and to be prepared

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for potential future challenges like

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another pandemic . This budget helps us

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to counter the belligerents that we see

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from Russia , especially in the cyber

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realm . This emphasis on missile

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defense and more sophisticated sensors .

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Our budget will also help us counter

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the increasing ballistic missile

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capabilities of nations like North

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Korea and Iran . It funds a troop

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presence and counterterrorism

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capabilities in the Middle East and

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South Asia to meet the threats posed

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not only by Iran , but also by

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terrorist networks like Isis al Qaeda

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and in Africa like those posed by al

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Shabaab . I'm also confident that this

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budget will help us maintain the

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integrated deterrent capability and

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global posture necessary to credibly

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back up the hard work of our diplomats

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and demonstrate our resolve all over

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the world alongside our allies and

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partners . And speaking of our partners ,

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I know Afghanistan is on the top of

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your mind . As you know , the president

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directed us to withdraw our forces by

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early september and I can report to you

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today that the retrograde is proceeding

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on pace . Indeed , slightly ahead of it .

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We accomplished the mission for which

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our troops were sent to Afghanistan and

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I'm very proud of that . I'm also very

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proud of the brave men and women who

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made it possible and those who gave

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their lives for that mission . Also

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deeply grateful to the families of our

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service members who have endured so

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much as they sent your sons , daughters ,

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husbands and wives to battle our budget

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will help us develop the over horizon

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capability and we need to ensure that

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terrorist attacks on our homeland can

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never emanate from that country again ,

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we will now transition to a new

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bilateral relationship with our Afghan

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partners , one that continues to help

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them meet their responsibilities to

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their citizens , but one that will not

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require a U . S . Footprint larger than

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what's necessary protect our diplomats .

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And that's one reason why we're asking

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to move overseas contingency operations

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funding inside the budget . This will

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give us a new greater transparency

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accountability and predictability in

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the budgeting process . And because all

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necessary provisions currently

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established in OCO funding are retained ,

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we expect no impact to other operations .

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This is the right thing to do and

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frankly it's overdue now , taking care

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of our people is also the right thing

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to do . The budget request increases

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funding to support in home care and

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support , which has become increasingly

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important during the pandemic . We'll

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also see funding funds be seeking funds

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to improve military base pay retention

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bonuses and other incentives that will

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help us attract and retain the best

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talent . And we'll be working hard to

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combat challenges that make service in

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the ranks more difficult for all the

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men and women of the department from

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getting a better handle on to the

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extent to which we experience extremist

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behavior to combating sexual assault

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and harassment . As you know , my first

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directive as Secretary of Defense ,

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issued on my first full day in the

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office was the service leadership about

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sexual assault . I made it clear then

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and I still maintain that we must not

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be afraid to try new approaches to

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change their minds and so that we can

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truly and fully address discourage of

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sexual assault in the in our force .

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But clearly what we've been doing

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hasn't been working and the numbers of

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sexual assaults are still too high and

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the confidence in our system is still

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too low . The independent review

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commission that we established has

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provided me with an initial set of

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recommendations first around the issue

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of accountability . This line of effort

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is focused on how these crimes are

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investigated and prosecuted . I've

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shared these recommendations with

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Chairman Millie in with the civilian

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and military leaders of service

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branches have asked him to read review

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the recommendations and to provide me

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their views . In return , there will be

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additional recommendations coming to us

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from the IRC on prevention , culture

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and victim support . And I look forward

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to receiving them . But I will say this

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to you today that these are attached by

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our our own people on our own people

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and they tear at the fabric of who we

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are and they represent and what we

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represent to each other and to the

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american people . And so as I review

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the recommendations on how to address

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this challenge , I continue to keep an

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open mind . You have my commitment to

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that and also my commitment to working

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with you to consider legislative

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proposals , Madam , Chair members of

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the committee . We fill the greatest

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military in human history , made up of

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the finest men and women that have ever

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done the cloth of their nation . We

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also enjoy a civilian workforce ,

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deeply committed to every mission that

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we take on for all the things that we

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need to do better . No adversary can

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match the quality of our people . I am

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immensely proud and actually humbled to

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be of service to them and to serve a

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game with them and their family . I

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know the values that they espouse the

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oath that they took and I know what

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they're capable of and I believe we

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have a I have a very good sense of what

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they need to do their jobs And I can

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assure you that the president's budget

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request for fiscal year 22 fulfilled

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that obligation . I look forward to

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answering your questions . Thank you

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for your unwavering support that you

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continue to provide an apartment and

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for all the efforts that you make every

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day to ensure that we remain ready to

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defend this nation . Thank you . Thank

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you Mr Secretary General Milley , you

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are now recognized . Thank you madam .

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Chair and just a quick comment check .

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Can you still hear me over ?

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Great and chairman , Solomon , ranking

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member , calvert and curdle laura .

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Distinguished members of the committee .

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Thank you for the opportunity Today .

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It remains my distinct honor and

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privilege to represent the soldiers ,

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sailors , Airmen , marines , space

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Guardians of the United States Joint

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Force which , as Secretary Austin noted ,

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is the most capable of military in the

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world . Our troops are the best lead ,

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best equipped , best trained force

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anywhere . And I want to personally

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thank Secretary Austin for a steady

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leadership and wise guidance . Your

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Joint forces Standing Watch protecting

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America's interests in all domains

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around the globe as we sit here today

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alongside our allies and partners ,

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American soldiers , sailors , airmen ,

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Marines and Guardians are currently

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standing watch in 165 countries in

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conducting operations that keep

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Americans safe And we deeply appreciate

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all of your thoughts throughout this

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memorial day weekend for what they do

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every day , 24 , the United States

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military is a critical component of

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national power , which in concert with

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our diplomatic efforts are economic

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engine and our overriding hope . An

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example of the american message will

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deter adversaries and preserve the

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peace . We are prepared to fight and

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win if those seek to attack us , our

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allies and partners are undeterred .

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But forrest must always be a last

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resort when other means of achieving

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our ends have been exhausted . The

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Joint force appreciates the work our

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elected representatives do to ensure

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that we have the resources needed to

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train equipment man the force in order

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to be ready The days of the Budget

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Control Act of 2011 and repeated

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continuing resolutions which eroded

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readiness hopefully behind us for good .

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The joint force will deliver

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modernization of our armed forces and

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security to the people of the United

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States . With this FY 22 presidential

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budget request of $715

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billion . Well , it's a modest increase

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from the enacted 21 budget . It is a

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significant commitment of the people of

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the United States that they have

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entrusted to us , that amount of

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treasure and we will work diligently to

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ensure it is spent prudently in the

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best interests of the nation . The Fy

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22 P . B . Is the result of hard

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choices in a year in which the nation

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has suffered economic hardship Through

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the COVID-19 pandemic , an alignment

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with the interim national security

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guidance . This budget delivers a ready

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agile and capable joint for us that

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will compete deter and win across all

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domains which is postured for

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continuous dominance into the future ,

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consistent , predictable budgets

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informed by the will of the people are

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critical to our nation's defense and

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the passage of timely budgets instead

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of crs enable planning and

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prioritization , especially in the

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acquisition and procurement area . P .

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B22 budget requests increase radiance

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of the force by developing the joint

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force of the future , ensuring that

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people are our number one priority and

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positioning us to achieve through

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teamwork . America's network of allies

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and partners is a strategic source of

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strength and many enemies have grossly

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underestimated the United States and

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its people and our allies in the past ,

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they've underestimated our national

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resolve . They've underestimated our

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capability . They've underestimated our

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skills and our combat power and each

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has made a fatal choice which ended

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with their enrollment in the dustbin of

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history . The same will be true of any

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enemy that makes that mistake . Today

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or tomorrow . We are ready now . We

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remain so in the future , we're also

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facing tough strategic choices and we

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are being increasingly challenged .

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We're very capable of potential

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adversaries , clearly acting in

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opposition to our interests . So this

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budget prioritizes nuclear

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modernization , long range fires ,

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hypersonic technology , artificial

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intelligence , shipbuilding ,

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microelectronic space , cyber 5G and

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many others . It strikes an appropriate

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balance between preserving present

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readiness and future modernization .

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But it is biased towards future

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operating environment and the readiness

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it's going to take in the future for

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this fundamental change in the

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character of war that we are currently

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undergoing . It is now that we must set

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ourselves on the path to modernize

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joint force that will ensure overmatch

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in all domains in order to maintain the

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peace . Our job is your joint force ,

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our contract with the american people

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is that we the United States military

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will never lose a war We will support

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and defend the constitution of the

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United States and will do so 24/7 all

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day long . And I look forward to your

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questions . So thank you for your

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testimony . Will now turn to questions .

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The order of recognition will be plus

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placed in the Webex chat so members can

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know their their order in line . And as

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usual , I usually say who who the next

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couple of folks are . So it's going to

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start with me then Mr calvert and then

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it will turn to mr laurel . Um I'm

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going to ask uh two questions in in in

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general and see how I'm doing for time .

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And I think the first question

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Secretary Austin , I'll just direct

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towards you and you touched on this

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briefly . But I'm going to ask you

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again directly , is the $715 billion

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dollars sufficient to carry out the

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department's mission ? Um

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Mhm . This this budget provides us the

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ability to create the right mix of

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capabilities uh to uh to defend this

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nation and to deter any in the

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aggressors . And you heard me walk

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through uh many of the things that

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we're investing in , it adequately

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allows us to begin to prepare for the

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next fight and present at the last one .

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So the short answer to your question

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chair is that it in fact , does

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provide us the ability to go after the

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capabilities that we need . General

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Milley . If you were to access uh china

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or Russia's capabilities in a conflict ,

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how would you compare our own ,

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including their overseas presence ,

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ability to project power and

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relationship with allies ? I

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think thanks for the question . And I

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think that if if we look back , say 40

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years or so china has come from a

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Peasant based infantry , one

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dimensional military And has developed

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a very significant capability in the

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last 40 years . They are not our peer

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or near pier just yet , but they are

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rapidly growing and their objective is

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by probably the mid 20 thirties . For

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sure . By mid century to be equal to or

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greater than the United States

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militarily , they are advancing rapidly

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in space , cyber uh , in the maritime ,

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both surface and subsurface , uh , and

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an air and ground . So they very , very

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significant competitor to the United

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States . But they are not yet are equal ,

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but their intent is to be are equal .

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Another question for you general , as

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you mentioned in your statement , it's

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imperative that we maintain our

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technology and advantage over our

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competitors . Could you please to the

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best of your ability with the budget

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being in front of us ? Tell us the

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effects of when funds are diverted away

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from advanced capabilities and towards

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less capable weapon systems . In other

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words , what happens when you can't um

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you know , put the purchase power where

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you think it needs to go ? In my view ,

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we're experiencing a change in the

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character of war , where we have a

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Variety of a very advanced technologies

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that are all converging in time and

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space over next 10 , 15 years . Those

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are hyper sonics , precision munitions ,

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robotics , artificial intelligence and

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a wide variety of other technologies .

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If we do not put a lot of money towards

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those and developing them to a level of

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capability to deploy in our joint force ,

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then we'll be at a significant

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disadvantage to those countries that do

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develop them . China is investing

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heavily in all of those capabilities .

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We need to definitely do that . This

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budget does a lot of that . It'll have

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to be a sustained level of effort over

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many years . But it's critical to the

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Defense of United States that we

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invested . Advanced technologies .

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Thank you . My my final question for

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you , Secretary Austin is how is

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climate change and extreme weather

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events , lack of resiliency cost the

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department ? And how does it impact our

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installations ? Our readiness in our

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operations ? Well , as you've heard ,

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uh you know , our president say climate

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change is is an essential element of

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our national security and I absolutely

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agree with that . It impacts uh our

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plans missions and capabilities and our

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readiness . Um It creates instability

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and in places that are important to us

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uh in what and as you've mentioned , it

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also uh provides challenges for

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our installations as we've seen a

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number of elements come together , uh

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erosion being of our shores being one

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of them . So it's factored into

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into it will be factored into our

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planning and our operations going

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forward . I think there are

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opportunities to uh to invest in

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technologies that help us better and

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more efficiently , uh store water ,

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energy and power . And also you'll see

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us investing in uh in technologies that

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uh that are relevant to our warfighting

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mission . I am as you know ,

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terry mccollum . We have one of the

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largest civilian fleets and or non

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military non practical fleets . Excuse

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me , in the inventory . And uh and so

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converting some of those vehicles to uh

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to electric vehicles I think would be

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could save a lot of energy and I'll

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stop there . Thank thank you very much

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members . I took under five minutes .

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So I'll yield back and turn to mr

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calvert for his question . And then mr

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laurel . Thank you , madam , Chair

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Secretary Austin Many of my Republican

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colleagues and I are very disappointed

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by the top line request for fiscal year

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2020 to you heard from my allies or my

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compadres , both in the House and the

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Senate ? I'm sure you'll hear more .

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I've heard more heard some say that the

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budget Is an increase of 11 billion .

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But when you factor in inflation and by

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the way inflation is going up not down ,

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It's actually about a .4% cut . When

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you consider the massive readiness and

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modernization challenges facing all our

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services and the pace by which china is

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developing its military capability .

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This request , in my opinion is

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insufficient . I strongly believe that

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to maintain our warfighting edge , We

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must increase the defense top line by

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3-5% above inflation . As secretary

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Mattis set forth in his national

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defense strategy and I suspect we'll

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probably have another defense strategy

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reflecting these new budget numbers .

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It's becoming more clear mr Secretary

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Every day that the COVID-19 virus came

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from a lab in Wuhan China . And china

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was aware of that from the beginning .

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That is who we're dealing with .

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China's budget is going up by double

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digits . They have significantly more

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ships , bombers , fighters , missiles

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in the south , pacific with us and

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including our allies . I I would say

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you're right . Uh China has not yet are

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pure uh in worldwide uh

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military capability . But do they

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exceed our capability in the south

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china sea ?

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Thank you , sir . My my assessment is

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that they don't uh first of all ,

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you've heard me say before that

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china is currently and will remain are

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pacing challenge going forward . Uh

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you've seen me do a number of days to

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try to continue to focus the department

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on the on the china challenge . We

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established the china task force that

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is about to complete its work and will

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inform uh you know , our our efforts

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going forward here and help us to

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create synergies and eliminate

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duplication and more more efficiently .

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Focus us on this on a china challenge

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Again , uh China has very has

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no allies . We have many allies around

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the world and we certainly have some

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strong allies and partners in the indo

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pacific region . Uh And and that gives

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us greater capacity uh in greater

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capability . And you've seen us very

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recently began to uh to uh to

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strengthen try to strengthen those uh

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those alliances as I made my first

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overseas trip uh along with Secretary

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Blinken out to the end of pacific

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region and I think it was very very

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well received trip . Uh We're investing

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in the capable in the in the right mix

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of capabilities that I think will will

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continue to give us the advantage over

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china . Uh we have to have the ability

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to understand uh faster

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to uh to make decisions faster and to

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act faster . And I think the kinds of

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things that we're investing in will

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certainly allow us to do that . Uh we

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will never seek to , numbers are

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important , but we will never seek to

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match our adversaries . Uh One for one ,

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we will always seek to uh to develop a

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much greater capability and and that's

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our approach and I think we're on path

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to achieving it . Oh , thank you , MR

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Secretary . But I still think numbers

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matter , I I added up the capability of

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Japan Australia , most of our allies in

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the pacific area , along with our

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capability in the south China sea . Uh

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and the china's capability is still in

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numbers significantly larger than that

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of us and our allies . And so I worry

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about Taiwan as others do . I worry

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about uh continuing aggression in that

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region and from that ? Um

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potentially and other locations , so

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this is not just my concern , it's a

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concern of as as you know of many

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people uh around the world . So I I

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hope , I hope that we're right , but

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you know my old man used to say hope is

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not a planning strategy and I don't

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want us to be in that position as a

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nation where were were put in a

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position of weakness which is which is

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not where we want to be with that , I

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yield back my time , I'm sure

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thank you . Um I will recognize Mr

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laura when she uh next is able to join

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us . Mr Claire , you are now recognized

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for five minutes . Yes , Cherry

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ranking brew and I want to thank all

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the secretary require your volume is

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not very good , the connectivity is not

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good . Okay can you all hear me better ,

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speak up a little louder please . Okay

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thank you thank you madam Chair uh

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mr Secretary , thank you for being here

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with us and general Milley . It's also

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pleasure seeing you again . I want to

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thank you all for the service and

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certainly uh I'll see some of your

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parents , men and women at Randolph Air

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Force Base , I'm speaking at the high

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school there so I appreciate your men

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and women that serve our country . Um I

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have two questions , one on mineral uh

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earth uh and the other one has to do

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with the Russian china influence in the

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western hemisphere . A

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couple years ago I added to the

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national defense authorization language

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to do a western hemisphere resource

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assessment to see what china and Russia

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and Iran to an extent are doing there

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and as you know , South Come has done a

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great job getting it from this

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information . This report was due in

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December 31 , but because of the

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pandemic uh because it was combined

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with another independent review Within

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section 1262 were waiting for this

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report to come out on July 31 of

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this year , in the next couple of

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months . As you know , it's not only

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china and Russia , but we also have the

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transnational organizations and

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smuggling That are bringing in . You

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know , I mean they make over 90 , it's

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estimated over $90 million dollars to

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bringing people in . People usually

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think of mexicans and central americans .

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And we appreciate I was looking at your

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testimony , the work that you all are

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doing with the central America military

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and defence institutions . Thank you

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for doing that . But I also want to say

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uh that we are now getting

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A spike people from other places , from

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about 150 countries uh in particular ,

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we got people from India from Romania

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that are now coming into the southern

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border because of their perspective ,

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how easy it is to come into the United

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States . So I want to see if you have

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any information on the Western

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Hemisphere resource assessment ,

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because we can't add money to this

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assessment is done . And I know Mario

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Diaz Barlett , who has this particular

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area , knows this very well . So I want

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to see where we are with this

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particular assessment because we want

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to be helpful . Well , we got to get

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this assessment not only on Russia and

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china , but the transnational

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organizations in the Western Hemisphere .

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Well , thank you , sir , I don't have

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any specific comments on the on the

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assessment that uh you're referring to .

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But once I review the assessment ,

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certainly I'll get back to you uh , and

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provide you provide you myself , I

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would only say that that , uh , you

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know , uh , the uh , the region is

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incredibly important to us . We may

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maintain a focus on that region . As

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you know , Coton continues to do a

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great job of making sure that we're

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working with our partners and allies

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to ensure that we maintain significant

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influence in that region . Uh , just

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this last year , for example , uh

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Admiral Fowler and his team have either

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conducted or planned to conduct nine

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exercises which are with the joint

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exercises which help to build partner

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capacity and uh , begin to help

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our partners focus on those kinds of

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issues that you raised . We'll

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certainly be well , uh , certainly get

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back to you with my assessment on uh ,

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on the assessment that you raised . All

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right , well , thank you so much . I

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appreciate it . General Milley , I

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don't know if you have anything to add .

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Otherwise humble . You're back the

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balance of my time and then ask the

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earth mineral question at the next

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round . I don't congressman , thank you .

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And I'll provide my assessment when I

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see the report . Uh and I'll be

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beautiful about that and give my advice

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as secretary to find some fried some

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feedback to you as well . Thank you so

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much . Thank you , madam . Chair you

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back to balance my time . Yes . And any

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anything you can do to help us with as

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we're planning . The budget gentleman

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would be greatly appreciated with the

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report . Not coming out till july and

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we're going to have to be moving before

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then . Mr Rogers . You are now

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recognized , please , sir .

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Mr Rogers . Could you please There you

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go if you're a muted now . Got me okay .

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Yes , I do . Uh Secretary

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Austin General Milley of thank you both

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for being here today and thank you for

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your service to our country . I want to

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discuss a topic that's on the forefront

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of May of us on the committee

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uh and that is competition with china

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and Russia . Undoubtedly we are

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at a crucial moment here were beginning

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to lose our critical competitive edge

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in multiple domains . How does

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the first call 22 D O . D budget

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address the modernization initiatives

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that need to occur ?

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Well , thank you sir . I think when you

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do see the budget , you'll see um

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substantial investments in the

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modernization of our nuclear enterprise .

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Uh you'll see investments in missile

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defeat and defense . You'll see a

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significant investment in our in our

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naval forces , long range fires . As

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the chairman mentioned earlier and

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probably the largest ever request for

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our DNA for for uh

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development of technologies . So , you

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know , our effort again is to make sure

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that we have the ability to leverage

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quantum computing to begin to leverage

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ai uh space based platforms and

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not only just leverage them , but began

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to do network these uh these

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capabilities in ways that they've never

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been networked and that will that will

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provide us uh significant capabilities .

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Uh We recognize the fact that china is

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making attempting to make strides and

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in cyber and space , uh but we're

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confident in the things that the mix of

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capabilities that we're investing it ,

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we'll put us in the right place in

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terms of maintaining a competitive edge

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and increasing that competitive edge

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going forward . Mhm . The president's

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interim national security strategic

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guidance mentions the need to develop

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capabilities to better compete and

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deter graze on actions about our

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adversaries , including quote ,

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irregular warfare , quote , how can the

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department collaborate better with the

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State Department and the intelligence

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community , to the terror china and

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Russia where they threaten our

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interests through such means ?

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Yes , well , coming into the job ,

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they're one of my uh objectives which

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we've been able to achieve and sustain

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and we will sustain going forward Is to

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make sure that number one , well ,

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always leave with diplomacy , but most

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important to make sure that I have a

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great working relationship with the uh

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secretary of State and also with the

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Director of National Intelligence , as

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well as the director of the CIA . And

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we have routine meetings on a weekly

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basis to share insights and uh and

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collaborate on on issues . Uh that

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spirit of cooperation has uh is

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permeating all the way down to the

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lowest level and and not on it's just

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on its own is something that we not

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only encourage but require . But to

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your point , I think that this we've

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seen some uh in the past

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interesting techniques employed by uh

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by the Russians and others . Uh and and

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certainly we want to make sure that our

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collaboration with our with our

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interagency partners provides us the

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ability to close down any gaps and

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scenes that would allow put us at a

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disadvantage and I'll stop there .

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Well , they bottom line is we're in

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a world wide competition , both with

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Russia and china , and

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we've got to adapt and adopt a

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whole of government approach to the

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problems . Do you agree with that ?

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Agree with that ? It's uh it's a

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you know , it's it's an approach that I

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live by is something that I emphasized

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each and every day . And quite frankly ,

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I think that the interagency processes

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that are facilitated by the by by the

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National security adviser and the White

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House , I think have been superb in

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terms of bringing all of our efforts

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together . A good example of this

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collaboration . You you've you've seen

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with COVID-19 uh D O D wasn't to leave

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on this effort , but , you know , right

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away , we we volunteered to lean into

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this uh this effort because anything

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that takes uh takes away , You know ,

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almost 600,000 American lives DOD wants

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a part of that solution , wants to be a

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part of that solution . So , you know ,

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led by another agency , but certainly

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we did everything that we could to

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support the effort . But I think this

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interagency approached this whole of

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government approach that you mentioned

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is absolutely the right approach . I

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think you'll see that in our efforts to

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uh to compete with china and just and

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and everything else that we do and I'll

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stop there . Thanks for your service .

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Thank you very much for the question .

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Mr Rogers we now have . Mr Kilmer will

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be followed by Mr WAlmart . Mr Kilmer ,

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please thank you , madam Chair uh and

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thank you both for appearing before the

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committee today and for your service to

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our country . As you both know , our

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public shipyards are key to maintaining

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the readiness of our carriers and our

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subs as well as supporting our national

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defense posture . As you mentioned in

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your written testimony , Chairman

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Millie , if our war fighting ships

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aren't ready , are forward engaged

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posture is at risk . Despite their

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critical role though , our public

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shipyards have been chronically

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underfunded . Oftentimes , they're

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relying on infrastructure dating back

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to the early 20th century . That lack

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of funding has led to several potential

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points of failure at our yards . I know

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it futures and naval shipyard in my

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neck of the woods , one of the six

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drydocks will be functionally obsolete

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by the early 2030s , the shipyard will

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not have a dried out capable of

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maintaining ford class carriers . There

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are real concerns about the

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infrastructure in the event of an

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earthquake and that leaves the Navy at

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a disadvantage at a time when our

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adversaries are on the rise and when

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America's naval dominance is

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indispensable . So in order to address

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the crumbling facilities that are

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public shipyards , the Navy released

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its shipyard infrastructure

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optimization program or sigh up in 2018 ,

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which provides $21 billion 20 years . I

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very much support this and I'm worried

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that an absence of strong leadership

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will lead to costly delays in this in

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these investments . So two questions .

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One for Secretary Austin , how are you

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helping to prioritize the Navy psyop

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and ensure that it's not displaced by

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other budgetary priorities . And

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general Emily , I'd love for you to

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chime in on how the psyop fits into our

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defense strategy overall , the counter

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our adversaries , including china ,

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right ? I'll make sure the question and

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I think it's a , it's a very important

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question . Um , you know , we have the

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most powerful and dominant , dominant

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navy in the world and it will remain so

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on our watch . I think you'll see when

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we release the budget at the FY 22

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budget does ensure a

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ready , capable and sustainable fleet .

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I think you'll also see that , uh ,

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that , uh , we're going after the right

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mix of capabilities , uh , to maintain

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the dominance that we currently enjoy .

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I would just say that the science uh ,

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initiative is a great initiative to

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ensure that our public shipyards

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remain relevant and , and capable .

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Um , and when you see the budget ,

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you'll see uh that we are investing

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continue to invest in this uh , in this

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initiative and we will continue to do

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so throughout . Thank you . I'm glad to

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hear that uh , congressman on the uh

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piece about how to integrate into the

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strategy . The strategy is a the ends

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ways , means construct as you know , um

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and the industrial base in the

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shipyards are critical components of

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that . Uh we always think of the pointy

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end of the spear . That's important as

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to where the ships are , the soldiers

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are the sailors and so on and what's

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dropping bombs , et cetera . And

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oftentimes , we overlook those things

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that are not at the point of the spear ,

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which is things like the industrial

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base . Uh The sign up is critical ,

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it's part of the Integrated Strategy .

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Uh Secretary of Defense Austin is

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coined the term integrated deterrence

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uh and the industrial base is critical

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to that , that infrastructure is so

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very important to our ability to

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develop our military and to project

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power . So , um it's very integrated

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and very , very important to our

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overall success . Thank you for that .

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I want to stick on the infrastructure

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theme . Um Mindful of the

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infrastructure surrounding our

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installations as well . We see at

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times congested roads leading into our

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bases , uh issues around the resiliency

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of those roads . In light of seismic

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events are rising sea levels in my neck

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of the woods . There's a stretch of

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road leading into kidnaps naval

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installations , which is vulnerable to

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climate related threats such as storms

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and flooding . A program that gets to

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the root of that is the Defense

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Community Infrastructure Program , or

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December , which was created in 2019 to

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preserve and enhance military readiness

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by providing grants , facilitating

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cooperative agreements with local

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communities . I think Congress should

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keep vital programs like disip on track .

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Um , Secretary Austin , can you just

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expand on the D . O . D . S

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collaboration with local communities to

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identify and address infrastructure

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deficiencies and whether there's

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anything Congress ought to do to step

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up and help with that ? Yeah , we thank

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you congressman . We continue to to

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assess uh , you know , our efforts and

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what we're doing to , uh , not only to

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invest in our defense industrial base

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and invest smartly . So we're very much

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focused on creating opportunities for

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were for our people here at home and

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making sure that our supply chains or

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in the right place and all of this kind

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of feet mess together and and feeds

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into that . So , uh , we will remain

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cited on on this issue and we'll do

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everything we can to make sure that

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that , you know , we're protecting our

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ability to build things and create

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things here if you're at home and this

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is all a part of that . Yes , thank you .

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Thanks madam Cherry , you'll back ,

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thank you . Mr Kilmer , Mr Womack ,

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followed by Mr irregular . Thank you ,

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Madam . Chair to the Secretary and to

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the chairman . I I appreciate your

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service in uniform . Secretary Austin ,

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thank you for coming to West Point . Um

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really enjoyed your speech to the

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cadets . I thought it was well written ,

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Uh , well delivered and well received

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and uh and I'm sure the nearly 1000

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lieutenants that were conditioned under

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your supervision that day are going to

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uh serve their country in a very

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uh very exemplary matter . Uh but thank

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you again for coming to West Point and

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on the subject of West Point . Since I

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chair the Border Visitors , I'd like to

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get a commitment from you to release

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the Service Academy Board of Visitors

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review as soon as possible . You know ,

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it's been four months since you began

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that review and I'll note the

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appointment authority really is outside

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the D . O . D . So uh we would really

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like to get our boards of visitors back

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functioning again . And I hope that

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very soon you will allow us to do so

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organized issue very , very diligently

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uh congressman and and you have my

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commitment to move out expeditiously on

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this . We want to make sure that we get

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this and other pieces of this right ?

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And I acknowledge that appointment to

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that board is not it's not the

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responsibility of the of the Secretary

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of Defense , but that board along with

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all the other boards that we have are

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part of a larger review as you know ,

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and I think a larger review is the

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right thing to do , but I certainly

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recognize and appreciate the importance

59:23.288 --> 59:25.399
of having that board in place as soon

59:25.399 --> 59:28.350
as possible . Uh and let me end by

59:28.350 --> 59:30.406
saying , I really thank you for your

59:30.406 --> 59:32.560
continued support , uh the United

59:32.560 --> 59:34.671
States Military Academy at West Point

59:34.671 --> 59:38.200
and what I saw there was evidence of of

59:38.200 --> 59:40.720
your sustained focus and uh and so

59:40.720 --> 59:42.720
thank you . Thank you very much for

59:42.720 --> 59:45.130
that . Honored , honored to do it uh

59:45.140 --> 59:47.140
signed me up is one of the people a

59:47.140 --> 59:49.390
little bit uh concerned , in fact a lot

59:49.390 --> 59:52.680
concerned about the defense budget ,

59:53.270 --> 59:56.440
even though it's a point ahead of the

59:56.820 --> 59:59.620
21 budget , it's not keeping up with

59:59.620 --> 01:00:03.100
inflation . And that to me is a great

01:00:03.100 --> 01:00:05.230
concern and there will be attempts .

01:00:05.230 --> 01:00:07.610
I'm sure during this hearing to have

01:00:07.610 --> 01:00:10.420
you talked more about about the budget

01:00:10.430 --> 01:00:13.770
and its impact . But where are we

01:00:13.770 --> 01:00:17.140
accepting risk from a

01:00:17.140 --> 01:00:20.430
requirements perspective with regard to

01:00:20.430 --> 01:00:22.652
the top line numbers that we're looking

01:00:24.210 --> 01:00:27.710
as you as you know , What we have

01:00:27.710 --> 01:00:31.530
done is uh is really uh huh

01:00:32.110 --> 01:00:34.221
taking a hard look at the President's

01:00:34.221 --> 01:00:36.277
interim national Security strategy ,

01:00:36.510 --> 01:00:40.040
the giants that was that was that was

01:00:40.040 --> 01:00:43.350
published early on . And also our

01:00:43.350 --> 01:00:45.680
efforts were informed by my message to

01:00:45.680 --> 01:00:48.220
the force in terms of what what we want

01:00:48.220 --> 01:00:50.530
to force to to focus on .

01:00:51.890 --> 01:00:55.250
We are by by making sure that we are

01:00:55.250 --> 01:00:57.870
focused on acquiring the right kinds of

01:00:57.870 --> 01:01:00.720
capabilities uh that we need to be

01:01:00.720 --> 01:01:02.942
relevant in the future . Fighting . And

01:01:02.942 --> 01:01:04.609
we talked about some of those

01:01:04.609 --> 01:01:06.609
capabilities already . I think this

01:01:06.609 --> 01:01:08.609
puts us in a good place and what it

01:01:08.609 --> 01:01:10.830
requires us to do is to make sure that

01:01:11.210 --> 01:01:13.321
we take a hard work with the services

01:01:13.321 --> 01:01:15.890
and take a hard look at at those

01:01:15.900 --> 01:01:19.110
capabilities that will not be relevant

01:01:19.120 --> 01:01:22.610
in the future fight . Uh and uh and

01:01:22.610 --> 01:01:25.270
really began to no longer invest in

01:01:25.270 --> 01:01:27.870
those kinds of capabilities , but yet

01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:29.991
focus on the things that we know will

01:01:29.991 --> 01:01:32.370
need . Uh And also those things that

01:01:32.370 --> 01:01:35.100
are have reached a point in their in

01:01:35.100 --> 01:01:38.490
their life life cycle where they're so

01:01:38.490 --> 01:01:41.360
expensive to to retain and maintain

01:01:41.370 --> 01:01:43.481
that they don't provide , continue to

01:01:43.481 --> 01:01:45.648
provide an advantage was so that , you

01:01:45.648 --> 01:01:47.759
know , what we're doing is optimizing

01:01:47.759 --> 01:01:49.870
our efforts by making sure that we're

01:01:49.870 --> 01:01:51.926
focusing on the right things and not

01:01:51.926 --> 01:01:54.148
continuing to invest in things that are

01:01:54.148 --> 01:01:56.314
not as relevant going forward . Yeah ,

01:01:56.314 --> 01:01:58.760
last question in this round is about

01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:00.593
long range fires are directed to

01:02:00.593 --> 01:02:03.840
General Milley . Uh We've seen some uh

01:02:03.850 --> 01:02:06.017
some inter service squabbles regarding

01:02:06.017 --> 01:02:08.183
long range fires . I see it as a clear

01:02:08.183 --> 01:02:10.294
manifestation of how threatened maybe

01:02:10.294 --> 01:02:12.239
the services feel in a constrained

01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:14.128
budget . But long range fires are

01:02:14.128 --> 01:02:16.120
crucial to uh to any conflict and

01:02:16.120 --> 01:02:18.287
particularly what we're looking at now

01:02:18.287 --> 01:02:21.010
with uh near peer adversaries . So uh

01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:23.830
Mr Chairman , uh how are we

01:02:23.830 --> 01:02:26.200
deconflicting the arguments about long

01:02:26.200 --> 01:02:28.210
range fires in and specifically

01:02:28.210 --> 01:02:30.890
importance ? They are uh they are to

01:02:30.890 --> 01:02:34.310
the to the ground forces . Thanks

01:02:34.310 --> 01:02:36.460
congressman . The as you know , we're

01:02:36.460 --> 01:02:39.530
developing the joint warfighting

01:02:39.530 --> 01:02:42.720
concept which is how we want . It's the

01:02:42.720 --> 01:02:44.998
vision of how we want the future force ,

01:02:44.998 --> 01:02:48.240
the future joint force to fight . It's

01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:50.407
a concept not yet doctrine . So we are

01:02:50.407 --> 01:02:52.184
experimenting with a variety of

01:02:52.600 --> 01:02:55.570
concepts . Within that . One of those

01:02:55.570 --> 01:02:57.930
concepts is joint long range fires .

01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:01.550
And within that each of the services

01:03:01.550 --> 01:03:04.530
play a key role respective to their

01:03:04.530 --> 01:03:07.730
service . So the navy provides joint

01:03:07.740 --> 01:03:09.573
long range fires . The Air force

01:03:09.573 --> 01:03:11.684
provides joint long range fires . The

01:03:11.684 --> 01:03:13.629
marines are developing joint wrong

01:03:13.629 --> 01:03:15.796
range fires and the army is developing

01:03:15.796 --> 01:03:17.907
joint long range fires . Each of them

01:03:17.907 --> 01:03:20.990
bring a unique and distinctly uh

01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.500
distinct capability to integrate into

01:03:24.510 --> 01:03:27.200
the joint warfighting concept of the

01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:30.010
future . This budget by you said where

01:03:30.010 --> 01:03:31.954
we're taking risk . This budget is

01:03:31.954 --> 01:03:35.100
biasing the future over the present

01:03:35.100 --> 01:03:37.500
slightly . When I first became chief of

01:03:37.500 --> 01:03:40.240
staff of the Army six years ago , when

01:03:40.240 --> 01:03:42.440
I looked at that budget , we were

01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:44.620
mortgaging our future to pay for the

01:03:44.620 --> 01:03:47.130
present . Today . It's the opposite .

01:03:47.140 --> 01:03:49.140
We are trying right now to put down

01:03:49.140 --> 01:03:51.470
payments on investments that are going

01:03:51.470 --> 01:03:54.120
to pay huge dividends . 5 , 10 , 15

01:03:54.120 --> 01:03:56.710
years from now for a future force that

01:03:56.710 --> 01:03:58.766
will be able to compete successfully

01:03:58.766 --> 01:04:00.988
with any adversary out there to include

01:04:00.988 --> 01:04:03.540
china . Long range precision fires are

01:04:03.540 --> 01:04:06.260
one of many of those capabilities . And

01:04:06.260 --> 01:04:08.700
it's important that all of the services

01:04:08.710 --> 01:04:10.710
have that capability to present the

01:04:10.710 --> 01:04:12.821
enemy with multiple problems to solve

01:04:12.821 --> 01:04:14.920
simultaneously so that were inside

01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:17.031
their decision loop and they won't be

01:04:17.031 --> 01:04:19.087
successful . Thanks to the gentleman

01:04:19.087 --> 01:04:21.364
madam Chair , are you back ? Thank you .

01:04:21.364 --> 01:04:23.364
Mr irregular . And then Mr carter .

01:04:24.890 --> 01:04:27.057
Thank you Madam Chair . Thank you . Mr

01:04:27.057 --> 01:04:29.168
Secretary and chairman for being with

01:04:29.168 --> 01:04:31.940
us today . Following news reports about

01:04:31.940 --> 01:04:33.996
the prevalence of white supremacists

01:04:33.996 --> 01:04:35.940
and white nationalists joining our

01:04:35.940 --> 01:04:37.996
military with the intent of bringing

01:04:37.996 --> 01:04:40.329
credibility to their own hateful causes .

01:04:40.490 --> 01:04:44.300
Um in the Fy 2020 20

01:04:44.310 --> 01:04:46.430
NBA , I worked with my colleagues to

01:04:46.430 --> 01:04:49.330
secure language that required diode to

01:04:49.330 --> 01:04:51.386
conduct a review to prevent domestic

01:04:51.386 --> 01:04:53.980
extremism in our armed forces . In

01:04:53.980 --> 01:04:56.147
february of this year , the report was

01:04:56.147 --> 01:04:58.369
released to Congress and confirmed that

01:04:58.369 --> 01:05:00.424
white supremacist organizations have

01:05:00.424 --> 01:05:03.970
actively worked to infiltrate the and

01:05:03.980 --> 01:05:06.650
to gain combat and tactical training

01:05:06.660 --> 01:05:09.830
and identifying the recruits um and the

01:05:09.830 --> 01:05:12.430
use of active duty service members to

01:05:12.430 --> 01:05:15.010
bring recognition to the organizations .

01:05:15.310 --> 01:05:17.532
The report recommended that D . O . D .

01:05:17.532 --> 01:05:19.980
Utilized FBI's existing infrastructure

01:05:19.980 --> 01:05:22.160
to identify questioning or concerning

01:05:22.160 --> 01:05:24.600
tattoos , Create a consistent

01:05:24.600 --> 01:05:27.500
definition of domestic extremist

01:05:27.510 --> 01:05:30.230
ideologies and conduct an interagency

01:05:30.230 --> 01:05:34.050
review of SF 86 and consider adding a

01:05:34.050 --> 01:05:36.560
designator to discharge papers related

01:05:36.560 --> 01:05:39.240
to domestic extremism . As a result , I

01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:41.407
introduced legislation , the shielding

01:05:41.407 --> 01:05:43.351
our military from Extremists Act ,

01:05:43.351 --> 01:05:45.462
Which would require diode to act upon

01:05:45.462 --> 01:05:47.684
the recommendations within six months .

01:05:47.790 --> 01:05:50.130
Mr . Secretary , Do you agree that this

01:05:50.130 --> 01:05:52.560
is a crucial issue ? This is something

01:05:52.560 --> 01:05:54.449
obviously you highlighted in your

01:05:54.449 --> 01:05:56.840
written testimony . Um but can you talk

01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:59.100
about what D . O . D . Is going to do

01:05:59.100 --> 01:06:01.267
to enact each of these recommendations

01:06:01.267 --> 01:06:02.790
uh in a quick manner ?

01:06:05.080 --> 01:06:07.080
Well , first of all , thank you and

01:06:07.080 --> 01:06:09.320
thank you for your work in years past

01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:12.300
to uh focus on this issue . And again ,

01:06:12.780 --> 01:06:16.290
um let me say up front , and I suspect

01:06:16.290 --> 01:06:19.660
you believe the same thing that 99.9%

01:06:19.660 --> 01:06:21.830
of our troops were serving , served

01:06:21.830 --> 01:06:24.000
with do so with dignity and honor .

01:06:24.380 --> 01:06:28.020
They embrace the values that um that we

01:06:28.020 --> 01:06:31.930
espouse as in the department and I feel

01:06:31.930 --> 01:06:34.020
very confident that but you know , a

01:06:34.020 --> 01:06:35.964
small number of people can have an

01:06:35.964 --> 01:06:38.298
outsized impact on a great organization .

01:06:38.298 --> 01:06:40.464
And that's that's really the concern .

01:06:40.464 --> 01:06:43.980
And so uh we're we have increased our

01:06:43.980 --> 01:06:47.520
efforts two , number one , as

01:06:47.530 --> 01:06:49.697
people apply to come into the military

01:06:49.697 --> 01:06:52.000
screen , people do a better job of

01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.830
screening people and making sure that

01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:57.030
that we're bringing in uh the right

01:06:57.030 --> 01:06:59.410
kinds of people that don't bring

01:06:59.420 --> 01:07:02.750
additional baggage with them . Our

01:07:02.750 --> 01:07:06.690
efforts to uh huh putting our stand

01:07:06.690 --> 01:07:08.634
down that that you saw his conduct

01:07:08.634 --> 01:07:11.600
earlier this year . That effort was

01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:14.830
just to make sure that our leadership

01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.080
under you know , is focused on making

01:07:17.080 --> 01:07:19.024
sure that we're creating the right

01:07:19.024 --> 01:07:21.330
climates for for our troops to live and

01:07:21.330 --> 01:07:23.386
operate in and make sure that people

01:07:23.386 --> 01:07:27.060
are aware of what some of the signs of

01:07:27.060 --> 01:07:30.720
extremist behavior are , a

01:07:30.720 --> 01:07:33.990
radicalization can be . So uh

01:07:34.680 --> 01:07:36.791
as part of that , you know , I follow

01:07:36.791 --> 01:07:38.860
on to that . We stood up extremism

01:07:38.860 --> 01:07:42.060
working group therefore remain cited on

01:07:42.060 --> 01:07:44.820
this issue at my level and will

01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:48.390
continue to help define key terms and

01:07:48.390 --> 01:07:51.790
and uh and outlined policies . So we're

01:07:51.790 --> 01:07:53.920
doing a lot . But again , you know ,

01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:56.230
our our major focus is war fighting and

01:07:56.230 --> 01:07:58.500
will remain warfighting . Uh but we

01:07:58.500 --> 01:08:02.420
have a a clear responsibility to create

01:08:02.430 --> 01:08:05.440
a proper uh and healthy environment for

01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:08.850
our troops to live and working . I

01:08:08.860 --> 01:08:11.360
couldn't agree more . I'm sorry ,

01:08:11.370 --> 01:08:13.650
General , if I could just make a

01:08:13.650 --> 01:08:16.900
comment , um this is a function .

01:08:17.270 --> 01:08:20.110
It's not just extremism in rooting that

01:08:20.110 --> 01:08:22.110
out for its own sake . It has to do

01:08:22.110 --> 01:08:24.221
with combat power and cohesion of our

01:08:24.221 --> 01:08:26.332
organizations uh and the divisiveness

01:08:26.332 --> 01:08:28.277
that can inflict or can infect our

01:08:28.277 --> 01:08:30.054
organization , rip them apart .

01:08:30.054 --> 01:08:32.277
Cohesion is the fundamental , much more

01:08:32.277 --> 01:08:34.277
important . Hypersonic cohesion and

01:08:34.277 --> 01:08:36.332
leadership . Uh And the the cohesive

01:08:36.332 --> 01:08:38.443
organization is a much greater combat

01:08:38.443 --> 01:08:40.166
multiplier than any machine or

01:08:40.166 --> 01:08:42.460
mechanical thing out there . Uh And

01:08:42.460 --> 01:08:44.571
when you have extremists in the ranks

01:08:44.571 --> 01:08:46.738
or sexual assault for that matter , or

01:08:46.738 --> 01:08:48.904
any of these other things are divisive

01:08:48.904 --> 01:08:51.127
in and of themselves to an organization

01:08:51.127 --> 01:08:53.182
that prides itself on teamwork . And

01:08:53.182 --> 01:08:55.404
the numbers are small . We're confident

01:08:55.404 --> 01:08:54.870
that we don't actually know because we

01:08:54.870 --> 01:08:56.981
don't have good data . But let's just

01:08:56.981 --> 01:08:59.020
say it's 1/10 of 1% . That's 2000

01:08:59.020 --> 01:09:01.480
people . What if we had 2000 terrorists ?

01:09:01.490 --> 01:09:03.180
IsIS terrorists ? Or Al Qaeda

01:09:03.180 --> 01:09:05.850
terrorists ? Or Nazis ? Or fascists or

01:09:05.950 --> 01:09:08.350
Klux Klan in our ranks . That could be

01:09:08.350 --> 01:09:10.960
extremely divisive . So it's very

01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:12.904
important that we take on what the

01:09:12.904 --> 01:09:14.904
Secretary has asked us to do and we

01:09:14.904 --> 01:09:17.016
intend to do it . There's no room for

01:09:17.016 --> 01:09:19.238
that in the United States military . Mr

01:09:19.238 --> 01:09:19.020
Secretary , just briefly , would you

01:09:19.020 --> 01:09:20.964
agree with me though that enacting

01:09:20.964 --> 01:09:23.100
these recommendations into law ? We

01:09:23.100 --> 01:09:24.822
would safeguard against future

01:09:24.822 --> 01:09:26.933
administrations potentially reversing

01:09:26.933 --> 01:09:30.390
um policies unilaterally . I think it

01:09:30.390 --> 01:09:32.612
requires a sustained effort and I think

01:09:32.612 --> 01:09:35.520
it requires a right mm policies

01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:38.990
and oversight . And so

01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:42.790
without being able to

01:09:43.870 --> 01:09:45.830
specifically focused on each each

01:09:45.830 --> 01:09:49.740
element of the proposed legislation . I

01:09:49.750 --> 01:09:51.917
couldn't couldn't answer that question

01:09:51.917 --> 01:09:53.972
specifically , but I could certainly

01:09:53.972 --> 01:09:56.083
take that question for the record . I

01:09:56.083 --> 01:09:58.250
appreciate it . MR Secretary . We know

01:09:58.250 --> 01:10:00.194
policies can be changed . And so I

01:10:00.194 --> 01:10:02.194
think those of us want to make sure

01:10:02.194 --> 01:10:04.194
that we protect our troops and make

01:10:04.194 --> 01:10:03.790
sure that it has a lasting impact as

01:10:03.790 --> 01:10:06.012
well yield back Madam Chair . Thank you

01:10:06.012 --> 01:10:08.068
so much . Thank you for your work on

01:10:08.068 --> 01:10:08.040
this Mr Regular and gentlemen , thank

01:10:08.040 --> 01:10:10.860
you for your answers . We will now go

01:10:10.860 --> 01:10:13.290
to Mr carter and then miss boost us .

01:10:15.360 --> 01:10:17.620
Thank you Madam Chairman and welcome

01:10:17.620 --> 01:10:20.470
gentlemen and you often we first met

01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:23.590
but you didn't mountain man and then

01:10:23.590 --> 01:10:26.190
that kind of stamina and welcome .

01:10:26.200 --> 01:10:28.420
We're proud to have you take on this

01:10:28.420 --> 01:10:31.980
tough job . Uh huh . Chairman Millie

01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:36.690
Oh were you afraid for quite a while

01:10:37.160 --> 01:10:39.327
and that was a good job . You're doing

01:10:39.327 --> 01:10:42.160
it . We're proud of you mother is like

01:10:42.170 --> 01:10:45.740
taking a legacy sentence . This is with

01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.840
proof of concept of these modernization ,

01:10:49.850 --> 01:10:52.440
displacement and parasites . I was

01:10:52.440 --> 01:10:54.480
locked up for good in november ,

01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:56.940
Germany Germany you didn't get rid of

01:10:56.940 --> 01:10:59.880
getting rid of it . That's equipment ,

01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:03.090
increasing readiness to lateral

01:11:03.090 --> 01:11:06.820
transfers , joining in . We both

01:11:06.820 --> 01:11:09.380
grew up in an modernization is

01:11:09.380 --> 01:11:11.436
supported by getting ready to one of

01:11:11.436 --> 01:11:14.830
what's not meeting collecting equipment

01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:17.620
where it's best support the mission and

01:11:17.620 --> 01:11:19.730
getting their non vision headlock .

01:11:19.730 --> 01:11:22.500
Women were prepared to transfer . It

01:11:22.500 --> 01:11:25.880
only appears To me to be the bill

01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:28.350
payer for the air force . The Navy

01:11:28.350 --> 01:11:31.540
budgets . They have part 22 while

01:11:31.540 --> 01:11:34.920
simultaneously focusing 106

01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:38.000
modernization priorities . How crucial

01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:41.450
the programs such as empty for us

01:11:41.460 --> 01:11:44.500
allowing the army to be physically

01:11:44.500 --> 01:11:48.290
responsible accidentally divorce on my

01:11:48.290 --> 01:11:49.290
organization .

01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:57.980
Could you understand me ? I ,

01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:01.220
I didn't get the very tail end of the

01:12:01.220 --> 01:12:03.331
question , but I think I got the gist

01:12:03.331 --> 01:12:06.240
of the question uh , congressman . I

01:12:06.240 --> 01:12:09.030
think your concern is whether or not

01:12:09.030 --> 01:12:11.252
the army is going to be the bill player

01:12:11.252 --> 01:12:13.960
bill payer for modernization in the

01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:16.930
Navy and uh in the Air Force and the

01:12:16.930 --> 01:12:19.720
Marine Corps . Well , let me start this

01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:21.970
answer by saying , let me applaud the

01:12:21.970 --> 01:12:24.620
tremendous work that the army has done

01:12:24.630 --> 01:12:27.320
in terms of being forward looking and

01:12:27.330 --> 01:12:29.780
uh and really working hard to develop

01:12:29.790 --> 01:12:32.890
uh new or increased

01:12:32.890 --> 01:12:35.160
capability to do some of the things

01:12:35.160 --> 01:12:37.271
that the chairman mentioned earlier ,

01:12:37.650 --> 01:12:39.872
you know , do their part providing long

01:12:39.872 --> 01:12:42.094
range fires to do their part in linking

01:12:42.094 --> 01:12:44.870
systems together to be more effective .

01:12:45.250 --> 01:12:48.920
Uh And so uh the the army has

01:12:48.930 --> 01:12:52.630
uh Has really done a lot of great work

01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:56.210
over the last 20 years uh in uh in

01:12:56.210 --> 01:12:58.950
places like Iraq and Afghanistan . Uh

01:12:58.950 --> 01:13:02.080
and uh and as we see Iraq begin to wind

01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:05.640
down uh that wind down but close out

01:13:05.650 --> 01:13:07.780
uh again , that will create some

01:13:07.780 --> 01:13:10.610
opportunities for them going forward as

01:13:10.610 --> 01:13:12.610
they no longer have to invest in in

01:13:12.610 --> 01:13:14.860
certain kinds of things to sustain that

01:13:14.860 --> 01:13:18.670
effort . But let me assure you that ,

01:13:19.050 --> 01:13:21.630
you know from my perspective , our

01:13:21.630 --> 01:13:23.950
effort is not to make the army be the

01:13:23.950 --> 01:13:27.020
bill play player for the Air Force uh

01:13:27.030 --> 01:13:29.220
in the , in the Navy , the Air Force

01:13:29.220 --> 01:13:32.930
and Navy will outlook are also taking a

01:13:32.930 --> 01:13:35.041
hard look at themselves in the Marine

01:13:35.041 --> 01:13:37.520
Corps as well , not to see what they

01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:40.470
should no longer uh invest in so that

01:13:40.470 --> 01:13:42.560
they can create opportunities for

01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:45.360
themselves and invest in uh , you know ,

01:13:45.370 --> 01:13:47.370
increase capability going forward .

01:13:47.370 --> 01:13:49.537
You're seeing a great example with the

01:13:49.537 --> 01:13:51.910
Marine Corps uh lately as they have

01:13:51.910 --> 01:13:55.190
decided to uh , the best tanks or and

01:13:55.190 --> 01:13:58.120
get out of the armor business uh and

01:13:58.120 --> 01:14:00.064
develop other capabilities . And I

01:14:00.064 --> 01:14:02.342
applaud the comment on for his forward ,

01:14:05.140 --> 01:14:07.140
generally just real quick . The the

01:14:07.140 --> 01:14:09.251
army is not gonna get short changed .

01:14:09.251 --> 01:14:11.473
In my view , I've looked at this budget

01:14:11.473 --> 01:14:13.584
very closely along with General Condo

01:14:13.584 --> 01:14:15.584
and others . Um , I think it's very

01:14:15.584 --> 01:14:17.696
balanced amongst all the services and

01:14:17.696 --> 01:14:19.751
develops their future capabilities .

01:14:19.751 --> 01:14:21.640
The Big Six at the army , uh , is

01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:21.570
developing for their modernization

01:14:21.570 --> 01:14:23.514
program , the long range precision

01:14:23.514 --> 01:14:25.348
fires the next generation combat

01:14:25.348 --> 01:14:27.181
vehicle , future vertical lift ,

01:14:27.181 --> 01:14:29.126
etcetera . All of those systems in

01:14:29.126 --> 01:14:31.292
their Big six priorities are all being

01:14:31.292 --> 01:14:34.940
very well funded in this budget . Thank

01:14:34.940 --> 01:14:36.940
you . Thank you very much . General

01:14:36.940 --> 01:14:39.051
Milley . I appreciate that because it

01:14:39.051 --> 01:14:41.162
is a concern that the english command

01:14:41.162 --> 01:14:43.620
is in my neighborhood . We're very

01:14:43.620 --> 01:14:47.200
proud of it . Um , what do you

01:14:47.200 --> 01:14:50.960
think ? How do you feel it's doing its

01:14:51.540 --> 01:14:55.540
if that's just the modernization of the

01:14:55.550 --> 01:14:58.680
military and the what we're gonna do in

01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:02.550
the future ? Yeah , I

01:15:02.550 --> 01:15:04.717
think what you say , congressman , how

01:15:04.717 --> 01:15:07.300
is the army doing is always said the

01:15:07.540 --> 01:15:11.390
army's future command . So , um I was

01:15:11.390 --> 01:15:13.870
just down there a few weeks ago in

01:15:13.870 --> 01:15:16.600
austin texas . It was a brilliant idea

01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.970
by actually , as you well know ,

01:15:19.970 --> 01:15:22.600
Senator McCain was instrumental in

01:15:22.610 --> 01:15:24.943
coming up with the concept and the idea ,

01:15:24.943 --> 01:15:27.110
it was developed for a couple of years

01:15:27.110 --> 01:15:29.221
and then we finally feel that it down

01:15:29.221 --> 01:15:31.221
there a few years ago , I went down

01:15:31.221 --> 01:15:33.332
there and looked at general Murray uh

01:15:33.332 --> 01:15:35.499
and all the team , they've come a long

01:15:35.499 --> 01:15:37.666
way and they are really on the cutting

01:15:37.666 --> 01:15:39.721
edge uh and they're doing some great

01:15:39.721 --> 01:15:41.777
stuff for the army , but broadly for

01:15:41.777 --> 01:15:43.666
the joint Force , they are really

01:15:43.666 --> 01:15:45.777
moving out and moving out quickly and

01:15:45.777 --> 01:15:47.443
as you know , that's a hub of

01:15:47.443 --> 01:15:49.332
innovation really , in becoming a

01:15:49.332 --> 01:15:51.388
national hub of innovation uh in the

01:15:51.388 --> 01:15:53.388
commercial world as well . So we're

01:15:53.388 --> 01:15:55.443
very proud of futures command that's

01:15:55.443 --> 01:15:55.170
doing very , very well . And I would

01:15:55.170 --> 01:15:57.226
just pile on to that congressman and

01:15:57.226 --> 01:15:59.337
echo what the chairman has said . You

01:15:59.337 --> 01:16:01.392
know , I know the people involved in

01:16:01.392 --> 01:16:03.392
kind of seeing what they're doing .

01:16:03.392 --> 01:16:05.448
It's been very , very impressive and

01:16:05.448 --> 01:16:08.300
very encouraged as far the central

01:16:08.300 --> 01:16:11.500
texas is very proud of Fort Hood and

01:16:11.500 --> 01:16:13.611
the future is coming here and we want

01:16:13.611 --> 01:16:16.140
to make sure taking a good kid , thank

01:16:16.140 --> 01:16:18.362
you both , thank you for your service ,

01:16:19.230 --> 01:16:21.370
you know , But thank you , I'm sure

01:16:21.370 --> 01:16:23.592
central texas is very proud of you . Mr

01:16:23.592 --> 01:16:25.800
Mr carter , thank you for struggling

01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:28.190
with your voice with your question . Um

01:16:28.200 --> 01:16:31.050
Mrs bastos and Miss Mr Diaz Velarde .

01:16:32.130 --> 01:16:34.074
All right , thank you . Chairwoman

01:16:34.074 --> 01:16:35.963
Mccollum and I also want to thank

01:16:35.963 --> 01:16:38.130
ranking member Calbert for holding the

01:16:38.130 --> 01:16:40.186
hearing today and General Milley and

01:16:40.186 --> 01:16:42.130
Secretary Austin , thanks for your

01:16:42.130 --> 01:16:44.297
service , Thanks for your leadership .

01:16:44.297 --> 01:16:46.519
Um I appreciate what congressman carter

01:16:46.519 --> 01:16:48.463
just ask because that was among my

01:16:48.463 --> 01:16:50.686
questions . I'm really grateful for for

01:16:50.686 --> 01:16:52.741
you saying that the army will not be

01:16:52.741 --> 01:16:54.574
left behind with the Rock Island

01:16:54.574 --> 01:16:56.686
arsenal in the congressional district

01:16:56.686 --> 01:16:58.630
that I served . That's very , very

01:16:58.630 --> 01:17:00.741
important to me . Um , let me then go

01:17:00.741 --> 01:17:02.686
to the National Defense strategy ,

01:17:02.686 --> 01:17:04.797
places tremendous emphasis on the use

01:17:04.797 --> 01:17:06.963
of disruptive technologies in a way to

01:17:06.963 --> 01:17:08.852
counter threats from our european

01:17:08.852 --> 01:17:11.310
competitors . Um , additive and

01:17:11.310 --> 01:17:13.910
advanced manufacturing is one of those

01:17:13.910 --> 01:17:16.310
disruptive technologies that has the

01:17:16.310 --> 01:17:18.421
potential to significantly change how

01:17:18.421 --> 01:17:20.143
we address supply chain issues

01:17:20.143 --> 01:17:22.240
completely , rethinking how we can

01:17:22.240 --> 01:17:25.300
develop certain weapons systems with

01:17:25.310 --> 01:17:27.532
significant savings . And I know we see

01:17:27.532 --> 01:17:29.532
some of these real opportunities to

01:17:29.532 --> 01:17:31.088
have advanced manufacturing

01:17:31.088 --> 01:17:33.310
revolutionized how we do infrastructure

01:17:33.310 --> 01:17:36.360
work as well . So I asked this because

01:17:36.360 --> 01:17:38.527
the Rock Island arsenal , again in the

01:17:38.527 --> 01:17:40.638
congressional district that I serve ,

01:17:40.638 --> 01:17:42.693
is designated as the armies Advanced

01:17:42.693 --> 01:17:44.860
Manufacturing Center of Excellence and

01:17:44.860 --> 01:17:46.860
has been doing a lot to support the

01:17:46.860 --> 01:17:49.138
Army's broad goals for this capability .

01:17:49.138 --> 01:17:51.193
I'd like to get your thoughts on the

01:17:51.193 --> 01:17:53.193
importance of advanced and additive

01:17:53.193 --> 01:17:55.193
manufacturing to the future defense

01:17:55.193 --> 01:17:57.249
spending , um , and Mr . Secretary ,

01:17:57.249 --> 01:17:57.090
why don't we start with you and then

01:17:57.090 --> 01:17:59.146
General Milley , if you could add to

01:17:59.146 --> 01:18:02.310
what the secretary has to say , I tried

01:18:02.310 --> 01:18:04.643
to thank you very much for the question .

01:18:04.643 --> 01:18:07.940
I think this capability is , is , uh ,

01:18:07.950 --> 01:18:09.728
you use the term disruptive . I

01:18:09.728 --> 01:18:12.750
absolutely agree that . But uh , it's

01:18:12.750 --> 01:18:14.917
these kinds of things that will create

01:18:14.917 --> 01:18:16.917
that increase that competitive edge

01:18:16.917 --> 01:18:19.140
that we're , that we want to maintain

01:18:19.150 --> 01:18:21.800
and increase , uh , and so being able

01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.220
to do things differently , but also do

01:18:24.220 --> 01:18:27.160
them in in forward position areas . I

01:18:27.160 --> 01:18:29.327
think it's , it's critical so that the

01:18:29.327 --> 01:18:32.010
work that's ongoing . I cannot say

01:18:32.020 --> 01:18:34.550
enough about , and I , and and my my

01:18:34.550 --> 01:18:37.410
goal will be to , to leverage the work

01:18:37.410 --> 01:18:40.440
has been , it's ongoing , but to also

01:18:40.450 --> 01:18:42.561
increase our efforts and speed things

01:18:42.561 --> 01:18:46.550
up if at all possible . And I would add

01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.080
to that congresswoman as we look at the

01:18:49.090 --> 01:18:51.257
future operating environment to change

01:18:51.257 --> 01:18:53.257
in the character of war , the joint

01:18:53.257 --> 01:18:55.201
warfighting concepts , some of the

01:18:55.201 --> 01:18:57.660
attributes that jump out at you are

01:18:57.660 --> 01:18:59.882
units are going to have to be smaller ,

01:18:59.882 --> 01:19:02.049
more widely distributed . Uh , they're

01:19:02.049 --> 01:19:04.049
going to have to be able to sustain

01:19:04.049 --> 01:19:05.882
themselves because long lines of

01:19:05.882 --> 01:19:08.104
communication that are quite vulnerable

01:19:08.104 --> 01:19:10.216
to enemy activity may or may not work

01:19:10.216 --> 01:19:12.382
in some future conflict . So units are

01:19:12.382 --> 01:19:12.230
gonna have to be very self sufficient

01:19:12.230 --> 01:19:14.452
and additive manufacturing . It's a key

01:19:14.452 --> 01:19:16.786
component to that , the logistics chain .

01:19:16.786 --> 01:19:18.674
So the supply chain , you have to

01:19:18.674 --> 01:19:20.619
produce your own things , your own

01:19:20.619 --> 01:19:22.674
spare parts are going to be produced

01:19:22.674 --> 01:19:24.897
locally , uh , for you to function as a

01:19:24.897 --> 01:19:24.620
unit . That's gonna be true in ground ,

01:19:24.630 --> 01:19:27.960
probably true at sea . Uh and

01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:30.293
perhaps air might be a little different ,

01:19:30.293 --> 01:19:32.293
but for sure for ground forces that

01:19:32.293 --> 01:19:34.627
will be a critical component to success .

01:19:34.627 --> 01:19:37.250
So we're looking for . Yeah . Normally

01:19:37.250 --> 01:19:39.250
I know that you've been to the Rock

01:19:39.250 --> 01:19:41.306
Island arsenal and we'd love to have

01:19:41.306 --> 01:19:43.417
you back in , Secretary Austin . We'd

01:19:43.417 --> 01:19:45.250
love to have you there as well .

01:19:45.250 --> 01:19:47.194
There's really a lot to show off .

01:19:47.194 --> 01:19:48.861
They're , so I'll extend that

01:19:48.861 --> 01:19:51.028
invitation . I know you probably get a

01:19:51.028 --> 01:19:53.083
lot of these . Um I do have a little

01:19:53.083 --> 01:19:52.850
bit more time , so I'm going to switch

01:19:52.850 --> 01:19:55.850
gears to the Air Force for for a second .

01:19:56.220 --> 01:19:59.680
Um We all we have an Air National Guard

01:19:59.690 --> 01:20:02.970
Base , The 182nd Airlift Wing in the

01:20:02.970 --> 01:20:04.970
Congressional District . I serve as

01:20:04.970 --> 01:20:07.520
well in peoria Illinois . Um And I I

01:20:07.530 --> 01:20:10.950
really some deep concerns uh with

01:20:10.950 --> 01:20:13.172
Senator Duckworth's with Senator Durbin

01:20:13.172 --> 01:20:15.228
and I about the Air Force's plans to

01:20:15.228 --> 01:20:16.950
decrease the effectiveness and

01:20:16.950 --> 01:20:19.061
flexibility of the National Guard C 1

01:20:19.061 --> 01:20:20.930
30 divestments . I know that the

01:20:20.930 --> 01:20:23.097
National Guard insists that the C 1 30

01:20:23.097 --> 01:20:26.240
is valuable to the homeland uh for our

01:20:26.240 --> 01:20:28.530
defense mission here at home as well as

01:20:28.530 --> 01:20:30.808
to meet overseas tactical requirements .

01:20:30.808 --> 01:20:32.863
The flexibility and readiness of the

01:20:32.863 --> 01:20:34.752
National Guard will be negatively

01:20:34.752 --> 01:20:36.919
impacted by any reduction in the C one

01:20:36.919 --> 01:20:39.070
thirties . Air Force doesn't believe

01:20:39.070 --> 01:20:41.890
the current lead of C130s are needed in

01:20:41.890 --> 01:20:44.460
a high end flight in europe . Your

01:20:44.470 --> 01:20:46.248
adversary in the National Guard

01:20:46.248 --> 01:20:48.050
insisted the C one thirties are

01:20:48.050 --> 01:20:50.272
instrumental to their protection of the

01:20:50.272 --> 01:20:52.383
homeland . Does it make more sense to

01:20:52.383 --> 01:20:54.606
recapitalize the Air National Guard ? C

01:20:54.606 --> 01:20:57.820
1 30 H . Is with the active component

01:20:58.210 --> 01:21:02.040
C130 J Fleet . Um if you could

01:21:02.050 --> 01:21:03.994
maybe weigh in on that , it's it's

01:21:03.994 --> 01:21:05.994
something that we're very concerned

01:21:05.994 --> 01:21:08.440
about in my neck of the woods . I can't

01:21:08.450 --> 01:21:10.730
comment on a specific uh ,

01:21:11.610 --> 01:21:15.500
Decisions on the C130 that uh at the

01:21:15.500 --> 01:21:18.420
air force is making , I would tell you

01:21:18.420 --> 01:21:22.170
that uh as you pointed out , C130 has

01:21:22.170 --> 01:21:24.226
been and will continue to be , in my

01:21:24.226 --> 01:21:28.050
view , a very important uh piece of the ,

01:21:28.060 --> 01:21:30.580
of the inventory . Uh you know ,

01:21:30.580 --> 01:21:32.980
they're all saying amongst pilots is

01:21:32.980 --> 01:21:35.330
that when the When the most advanced

01:21:35.330 --> 01:21:37.330
fighter goes to the bone yard , the

01:21:37.330 --> 01:21:39.552
pilot will get a ride back on AC- 130 .

01:21:39.552 --> 01:21:41.497
Now , in terms of , you know , the

01:21:41.497 --> 01:21:43.560
specific capabilities of H . Model

01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:46.240
versus A . J . Model and what the what

01:21:46.240 --> 01:21:50.230
the what the Air Force wishes

01:21:50.230 --> 01:21:53.160
to gain by investing in more of one or

01:21:53.160 --> 01:21:55.460
the other . You know . Again , I'd have

01:21:55.460 --> 01:21:58.500
to have the Air Force lay that out for

01:21:58.500 --> 01:22:02.440
you in in in D . J . Okay ,

01:22:02.450 --> 01:22:04.450
well , we'll follow up , I'm out of

01:22:04.450 --> 01:22:06.617
time right now and I'll yield back but

01:22:06.617 --> 01:22:08.561
we will follow up Mr Secretary . I

01:22:08.561 --> 01:22:10.728
yield back at Adam Schiff . I know you

01:22:10.728 --> 01:22:12.728
were hoping for a big reveal . This

01:22:12.728 --> 01:22:15.000
boost does good try Mr Diaz Balart .

01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.300
And then Miss Kilpatrick , thank you

01:22:17.300 --> 01:22:19.244
very much . I'm sure , woman . And

01:22:19.244 --> 01:22:21.410
first let me , let me again add my

01:22:21.410 --> 01:22:23.410
thanks to both of you gentlemen for

01:22:23.410 --> 01:22:26.560
your years and years of service to our

01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:28.920
nation . Uh you know , including in one

01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:31.550
of those lists of those skeptics as far

01:22:31.550 --> 01:22:34.910
as when we're looking at the proposed

01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:37.100
budget , which I think is adequate and

01:22:37.100 --> 01:22:39.770
clearly does not provide the Defense

01:22:39.770 --> 01:22:41.770
Department , the funds necessary to

01:22:41.770 --> 01:22:44.380
execute all of our National Defense

01:22:44.380 --> 01:22:46.280
Strategy pillars . And so it's

01:22:46.280 --> 01:22:48.558
obviously it's pretty clear that every ,

01:22:48.558 --> 01:22:51.260
obviously every every uh service is

01:22:51.260 --> 01:22:53.316
going to have to look to making some

01:22:53.316 --> 01:22:55.093
serious changes , but here's my

01:22:55.093 --> 01:22:57.820
question . And so , um , you know , we

01:22:57.820 --> 01:23:00.042
spent a lot of time and it got a lot of

01:23:00.042 --> 01:23:02.264
bipartisan support the National Defense

01:23:02.264 --> 01:23:04.440
Strategy and we've had obviously

01:23:04.440 --> 01:23:06.670
multiple hearings and classified

01:23:06.670 --> 01:23:08.892
briefings , which kind of I think added

01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.950
and continues to add to the support of

01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:15.540
that strategy . So where was that

01:23:15.540 --> 01:23:17.790
wrong ? In other words , you know , the

01:23:17.790 --> 01:23:20.050
increased funding that was requested

01:23:20.050 --> 01:23:22.272
and we always expected that we're going

01:23:22.272 --> 01:23:25.320
to need , where did that go wrong ? Was

01:23:25.330 --> 01:23:28.590
that assessment wrong ? Or did the did

01:23:28.590 --> 01:23:30.312
the world situation changed so

01:23:30.312 --> 01:23:33.460
dramatically after the Defense Strategy ?

01:23:33.460 --> 01:23:35.530
Like if you could just make me feel

01:23:35.530 --> 01:23:37.752
better that we're just not dealing with

01:23:37.752 --> 01:23:39.808
kind of forcing our military to deal

01:23:39.808 --> 01:23:41.919
with an adequate budget , but that we

01:23:41.919 --> 01:23:44.860
have a strategy that is different than

01:23:44.860 --> 01:23:47.110
what we thought was needed under the

01:23:47.110 --> 01:23:49.166
National Defense Strategy , which is

01:23:49.166 --> 01:23:50.943
just as good . So where was the

01:23:50.943 --> 01:23:53.166
National Defense Strategy and those who

01:23:53.166 --> 01:23:55.388
planned it ? And , you know , where did

01:23:55.388 --> 01:23:57.499
they go wrong or what has happened in

01:23:57.499 --> 01:23:59.666
the interim , where those funds are no

01:23:59.666 --> 01:24:03.660
longer necessary ? Well , thank you ,

01:24:03.660 --> 01:24:05.882
sir , I think if you look at and I know

01:24:05.882 --> 01:24:09.520
you have looked at the President's uh

01:24:09.990 --> 01:24:11.934
interim National Security Strategy

01:24:11.934 --> 01:24:15.620
guidance , uh you'll see that uh you

01:24:15.620 --> 01:24:18.960
know , the fundamental elements uh in

01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:22.920
that guidance reflect uh the areas

01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:25.250
are the issues that we have . The

01:24:25.260 --> 01:24:28.770
current strategy uh focused on the

01:24:28.780 --> 01:24:31.002
former strategy focused on . And it was

01:24:31.002 --> 01:24:34.560
China Russia , Iran North Korea and

01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:37.280
transnational terrorists , terrorism .

01:24:37.290 --> 01:24:40.610
Uh So I think the major muscle

01:24:40.620 --> 01:24:42.731
movements , major pieces of the other

01:24:42.731 --> 01:24:46.060
strategy are the same , of course , uh

01:24:46.070 --> 01:24:49.790
as is the case uh in every

01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:53.620
change of administration , new

01:24:53.990 --> 01:24:55.990
the new administration comes in and

01:24:55.990 --> 01:24:58.157
does its own assessment . We're in the

01:24:58.157 --> 01:25:01.110
process of doing that now , but again ,

01:25:01.250 --> 01:25:05.140
we feel that based upon what we're

01:25:05.140 --> 01:25:08.300
looking at uh now and going forward ,

01:25:08.310 --> 01:25:11.220
we can develop and we will develop the

01:25:11.220 --> 01:25:14.350
right mix of capabilities and to

01:25:14.350 --> 01:25:16.790
support the operational concepts that

01:25:16.790 --> 01:25:18.846
allow us to be not only relevant but

01:25:18.846 --> 01:25:22.680
dominant in the future fight . And uh ,

01:25:22.690 --> 01:25:24.746
congressman is one of the people who

01:25:24.746 --> 01:25:26.690
was involved in the development of

01:25:26.690 --> 01:25:28.801
strategy . I wouldn't say that it was

01:25:28.801 --> 01:25:30.690
wrong and I wouldn't say that the

01:25:30.690 --> 01:25:32.690
current administration is assessing

01:25:32.690 --> 01:25:34.912
that it was wrong , but it does need to

01:25:34.912 --> 01:25:37.023
be updated . That was written four or

01:25:37.023 --> 01:25:39.134
five years ago . And I was one of the

01:25:39.134 --> 01:25:41.301
guys who helped write it with , uh you

01:25:41.301 --> 01:25:40.700
know , with a team of folks here and

01:25:40.700 --> 01:25:42.700
and it was written under the pen of

01:25:42.700 --> 01:25:44.867
then Secretary of Defense Mattis , who

01:25:44.867 --> 01:25:46.922
spent a lot of time with it . And it

01:25:46.922 --> 01:25:48.978
and it's written in history and it's

01:25:48.978 --> 01:25:50.978
it's written uh with a lot of logic

01:25:50.978 --> 01:25:53.144
behind it and the key components of it

01:25:53.144 --> 01:25:55.089
increased legality and readiness ,

01:25:55.089 --> 01:25:57.660
allies and partners . All of that's

01:25:57.670 --> 01:26:00.150
still true emphasis on irregular

01:26:00.150 --> 01:26:01.928
warfare along with conventional

01:26:01.928 --> 01:26:04.150
deterrence etcetera . The rise of china

01:26:04.150 --> 01:26:07.230
is noted in it and uh all that stuff is

01:26:07.230 --> 01:26:09.063
still there , but it needs to be

01:26:09.063 --> 01:26:11.720
modified and updated . Uh And that's

01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:13.776
what I think the assessment is , for

01:26:13.776 --> 01:26:15.664
example , the national security ,

01:26:15.664 --> 01:26:17.609
interim national security strategy

01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:19.680
coming out of the administration uh

01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:22.340
tells us , for example , uh to look at

01:26:22.340 --> 01:26:24.562
right sizing the force . What Secretary

01:26:24.562 --> 01:26:26.729
of Defense has directed us to do is do

01:26:26.729 --> 01:26:28.951
a global posture review that's entirely

01:26:28.951 --> 01:26:30.951
appropriate , in my view . Uh We're

01:26:30.951 --> 01:26:32.896
long overdue , but we need to do a

01:26:32.896 --> 01:26:34.840
rigorous , thorough global posture

01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:34.470
review to make sure that we have the

01:26:34.470 --> 01:26:36.470
right forces in the right places to

01:26:36.470 --> 01:26:38.692
achieve the right strategic effects and

01:26:38.692 --> 01:26:40.914
that's what we're doing . I wouldn't uh

01:26:40.914 --> 01:26:43.026
personally , I wouldn't assess that .

01:26:43.026 --> 01:26:45.248
It's wrong necessarily . It needs to be

01:26:45.248 --> 01:26:47.303
updated And I'm sure I can't see the

01:26:47.303 --> 01:26:49.526
clock , so I have no idea if I have any

01:26:49.526 --> 01:26:51.859
time . 30 seconds , sir . How much ? 30 ?

01:26:51.859 --> 01:26:54.430
Okay , well I I will then uh I guess

01:26:54.430 --> 01:26:56.541
I'll just wait for if we have another

01:26:56.541 --> 01:26:58.652
round . So I yield back . Thank you ,

01:26:58.652 --> 01:27:00.763
madam . Because of that , we probably

01:27:00.763 --> 01:27:02.000
well , thank you very much .