1 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:04,710 I would note both the Secretary of 2 00:00:04,710 --> 00:00:08,520 Defense and the Chairman , the Joint 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,340 Chiefs , that we usually saying 4 00:00:12,340 --> 00:00:14,860 over closer together , they were slowly , 5 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:17,160 at least we're not doing it by remote 6 00:00:17,740 --> 00:00:19,760 or by Mhm . 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,960 And wearing mass . I note that the 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,070 secretary has been having some 9 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:30,130 extraordinary long days flights . 10 00:00:30,130 --> 00:00:32,297 Everything out . In fact , we just had 11 00:00:32,297 --> 00:00:35,870 a discussion on one of those flights at 12 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:37,814 some point in the Secretary need a 13 00:00:37,814 --> 00:00:40,380 break . Just correct . You have a 14 00:00:40,380 --> 00:00:44,350 signal and we'll take a break . The 15 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:46,573 they have the President's budget 16 00:00:46,573 --> 00:00:48,518 request before I said I wanted the 17 00:00:48,518 --> 00:00:50,740 whole committee , all the republicans , 18 00:00:50,740 --> 00:00:54,350 democrats uh to hear it and Senator 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,660 Shelby and I of course , work closely 20 00:00:57,660 --> 00:01:00,650 together on this . The budget request 21 00:01:00,650 --> 00:01:04,320 total 715 billion For the Department of 22 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:08,250 Defense . It's a 1.6% increase over Fy 23 00:01:08,250 --> 00:01:12,180 2021 has important investments to deter 24 00:01:12,180 --> 00:01:15,430 adversaries , support for military and 25 00:01:15,430 --> 00:01:17,541 civilian personnel and their families 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,270 fund to combat the ongoing pandemic and 27 00:01:22,270 --> 00:01:24,103 prepare for future public health 28 00:01:24,103 --> 00:01:26,540 challenges , important investments to 29 00:01:26,540 --> 00:01:28,707 mitigate the national security impacts 30 00:01:28,707 --> 00:01:31,750 of climate change . It reflects the 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,973 approach that we all understand me true . 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,384 The United States defense budget , 33 00:01:38,384 --> 00:01:40,440 while an important component , it is 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,460 just one component of the overall 35 00:01:42,460 --> 00:01:44,260 strength of our nation . 36 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:48,300 We may divide domestic and defense 37 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:50,467 spending on paper , but the reality is 38 00:01:50,467 --> 00:01:52,633 the investments we make in our defense 39 00:01:52,633 --> 00:01:54,633 posture and our strategy payments , 40 00:01:54,940 --> 00:01:58,160 dividends domestically . It's also true 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,216 that without domestic investments in 42 00:02:00,216 --> 00:02:02,382 education and health care , research , 43 00:02:02,382 --> 00:02:04,960 economic development in science , we 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,690 cannot train and equip 45 00:02:08,700 --> 00:02:11,370 a successful defense . So I look 46 00:02:11,370 --> 00:02:13,481 forward to here in greater detail how 47 00:02:13,481 --> 00:02:15,481 the administration's request in the 48 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:17,860 Strategies Support three stores . 49 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:20,810 United States commitment to our allies 50 00:02:20,820 --> 00:02:24,260 to enhancing our need , our partnership 51 00:02:25,540 --> 00:02:28,460 and for all the discussion 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,120 about deterring china and Russia . And 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,290 these are important discussions . It's 54 00:02:35,290 --> 00:02:37,401 also important to remember the United 55 00:02:37,401 --> 00:02:39,568 States has always been most successful 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,620 and best protected when it works with 57 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:46,460 many other nations because that makes 58 00:02:46,460 --> 00:02:50,360 us a global leader . Yeah . Some 59 00:02:51,540 --> 00:02:53,530 and said President biden proposed 60 00:02:53,530 --> 00:02:55,641 increase for the department Defense . 61 00:02:55,641 --> 00:02:58,750 There's too little others say is too 62 00:02:58,750 --> 00:03:02,150 much . Uh It's simply not true . 63 00:03:03,340 --> 00:03:05,507 President biden doesn't propose to cut 64 00:03:05,507 --> 00:03:09,200 defense spending . He proposes a 1.6% 65 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,990 increase On top of that increase . The 66 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:14,212 property defense will have access to 12 67 00:03:14,212 --> 00:03:16,680 billion an additional dollars to 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,350 dedicate to other priorities as a 69 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:21,890 result of leaving Afghanistan . So I 70 00:03:21,890 --> 00:03:25,740 think it's fair . But in 71 00:03:25,740 --> 00:03:27,684 order to be able to begin our work 72 00:03:27,684 --> 00:03:29,518 drafting bills including for the 73 00:03:29,518 --> 00:03:31,684 Defense Department , the committee has 74 00:03:31,684 --> 00:03:34,880 to have agreed upon top lines . I've 75 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,713 urged that Congress should begin 76 00:03:36,713 --> 00:03:39,760 bipartisan and bicameral discussions 77 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,649 with the White House to establish 78 00:03:41,649 --> 00:03:44,610 agreed upon top line soon so we can 79 00:03:44,610 --> 00:03:47,730 begin our work in short heart for too 80 00:03:47,730 --> 00:03:50,850 long . Congress is divine spending in 81 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:53,950 terms of defense and non defense . It's 82 00:03:53,950 --> 00:03:56,290 time we start to look at the totality 83 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:58,244 of our investments in the american 84 00:03:58,244 --> 00:04:00,570 people . That's what the appropriations 85 00:04:00,570 --> 00:04:03,440 committee is charged to do , allocate 86 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,273 pressures federal dollars to the 87 00:04:05,273 --> 00:04:08,590 greatest needs of today . Time's wasted . 88 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,500 We've got to get to work . I want to 89 00:04:11,510 --> 00:04:14,420 turn first Vice chairman shall be for 90 00:04:14,420 --> 00:04:17,400 his opening statement . But then to 91 00:04:17,410 --> 00:04:19,570 Senator Tester , who is the new 92 00:04:19,580 --> 00:04:21,636 chairman of the Defense on Committee 93 00:04:21,636 --> 00:04:24,040 and it's probably as well equipped as 94 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,040 anybody be there . Senator Shelby , 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,207 thank you . Mr . Chairman . I too want 96 00:04:28,207 --> 00:04:30,790 to welcome Secretary Austin and general 97 00:04:30,790 --> 00:04:34,760 really back to this uh committee . The 98 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,420 world is complex , is a complex and 99 00:04:37,420 --> 00:04:40,870 dangerous place and we all know that uh 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,880 you understand the magnitude of the 101 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,180 challenges that we face from our year 102 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:48,090 peer adversaries who seek to undermine 103 00:04:48,090 --> 00:04:50,240 the U . S . S . Position as a world 104 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,650 leader and dominant military power . 105 00:04:53,340 --> 00:04:55,330 China and Russia are formidable 106 00:04:55,330 --> 00:04:59,240 adversaries and china Mr . Secretary is 107 00:04:59,250 --> 00:05:01,950 proven to be a true pacing threat . 108 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,390 China seeks hegemony militarily 109 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,260 technologically economically and 110 00:05:09,260 --> 00:05:11,560 geopolitically and is making 111 00:05:11,570 --> 00:05:14,650 unprecedented investments to see see 112 00:05:14,650 --> 00:05:17,980 that to fruition . Meanwhile , 113 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Russia is nearing the end of a massive 114 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,150 military modernization program . The 115 00:05:23,150 --> 00:05:25,910 Saudi's defense spending increased 30% 116 00:05:25,910 --> 00:05:28,850 in real dollars over the last 10 years . 117 00:05:29,940 --> 00:05:32,300 The national Defense strategy provides 118 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:34,380 a roadmap for what the Department of 119 00:05:34,380 --> 00:05:38,100 Defense needs at a minimum . To meet 120 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:41,340 the challenges posed by reemergence of 121 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:43,900 long term strategic competition with 122 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:46,920 china and Russia anything less 123 00:05:46,930 --> 00:05:49,080 jeopardizes redness the 124 00:05:49,090 --> 00:05:52,640 recapitalization of capital assets and 125 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,610 necessary investments in new and 126 00:05:54,610 --> 00:05:58,450 emerging technologies . Yet the budget 127 00:05:58,460 --> 00:06:01,050 that we're discussing today does just 128 00:06:01,050 --> 00:06:03,900 that proposing what is effectively a 129 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:05,940 cut in defense spending for 130 00:06:05,940 --> 00:06:09,700 20-2022 . I 131 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:12,000 believe that's the plan that I cannot 132 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 get behind and it's not a plan that 133 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,111 sends the right message , I believe , 134 00:06:16,111 --> 00:06:18,410 to our adversaries or to our men and 135 00:06:18,410 --> 00:06:20,670 women in uniform who are asked to make 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,860 the ultimate sacrifice . In years past , 137 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,840 we made the investments necessary to 138 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:29,160 ensure that we have the best trained , 139 00:06:29,170 --> 00:06:31,550 best prepared , best equipped fighting 140 00:06:31,550 --> 00:06:34,960 force in the world . But this year , 141 00:06:35,340 --> 00:06:37,050 the budget proposal by this 142 00:06:37,050 --> 00:06:39,260 administration signals to the world 143 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,590 that the administration is not 144 00:06:41,590 --> 00:06:44,140 committed to investing in redness 145 00:06:44,140 --> 00:06:46,550 training , say , the art equipment and 146 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:50,030 technological overmatch with military 147 00:06:50,030 --> 00:06:51,808 investments in china and Russia 148 00:06:51,808 --> 00:06:53,830 continuing to outpace U . S . 149 00:06:53,830 --> 00:06:56,560 Investments . I find it hard to believe 150 00:06:56,940 --> 00:06:59,130 that the requirements outlined by 151 00:06:59,130 --> 00:07:02,110 General Dunford just four years ago are 152 00:07:02,110 --> 00:07:05,420 no longer instructive . If anything , I 153 00:07:05,420 --> 00:07:07,460 believe it's likely increased 154 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,270 competition with china requires a whole 155 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:14,380 of government investments . We saw last 156 00:07:14,380 --> 00:07:17,380 week that the Senate made some 157 00:07:17,380 --> 00:07:20,650 investments on the non defense side and 158 00:07:20,650 --> 00:07:22,539 we must ensure investments in our 159 00:07:22,539 --> 00:07:25,370 military justice robust . I look 160 00:07:25,370 --> 00:07:27,592 forward to today's hearing from each of 161 00:07:27,592 --> 00:07:30,170 you about the budget proposal and in 162 00:07:30,170 --> 00:07:32,590 particular how you plan to keep pace . 163 00:07:32,590 --> 00:07:35,170 Are we how we keep pace and kind of the 164 00:07:35,170 --> 00:07:37,500 threats from Russia and china while 165 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,390 simultaneously cutting investments in 166 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:43,690 defense . Thank you . Mr Chairman . Uh 167 00:07:43,690 --> 00:07:47,060 huh . Mhm . Close , thank you . 168 00:07:47,060 --> 00:07:49,820 Chairman Leahy and Senator Shelby for 169 00:07:49,820 --> 00:07:51,820 calling this hearing . Uh I want to 170 00:07:51,820 --> 00:07:53,931 welcome our guests . Thanks for being 171 00:07:53,931 --> 00:07:56,042 here . I know Secretary Austin , This 172 00:07:56,042 --> 00:07:58,042 is your first appearance before the 173 00:07:58,042 --> 00:08:00,209 full Senate appropriations committee . 174 00:08:00,209 --> 00:08:01,987 Welcome General Milley . You've 175 00:08:01,987 --> 00:08:04,042 appeared before defense subcommittee 176 00:08:04,042 --> 00:08:06,209 several times . Welcome back uh as our 177 00:08:06,209 --> 00:08:08,320 adversaries continue to invest in new 178 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,320 capabilities , the United States is 179 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,431 decisive . Military advantages is not 180 00:08:12,431 --> 00:08:14,320 assured today . I'm interested in 181 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,542 hearing more about how the department's 182 00:08:16,542 --> 00:08:18,709 emphasis on innovation and media . The 183 00:08:18,709 --> 00:08:20,764 challenge from our top adversaries , 184 00:08:20,764 --> 00:08:22,598 including china and Russia , has 185 00:08:22,598 --> 00:08:25,180 directly impacted this defense spending 186 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:27,900 proposal . Well , we're likely to hear 187 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:29,970 a lot of debate debate today on what 188 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:32,137 the total defense budget ought to be . 189 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:34,562 It is not up to our witnesses to figure 190 00:08:34,562 --> 00:08:36,673 that out . Where Secretary Austin and 191 00:08:36,673 --> 00:08:38,980 General Mill , you can be helpful for 192 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:41,147 this committee is with the question of 193 00:08:41,147 --> 00:08:43,369 whether we're getting the best bang for 194 00:08:43,369 --> 00:08:45,536 the taxpayer buck and my brief time is 195 00:08:45,536 --> 00:08:47,091 the chairman of the defense 196 00:08:47,091 --> 00:08:49,147 appropriations . I've seen troubling 197 00:08:49,147 --> 00:08:51,313 signs that this is not the case . This 198 00:08:51,313 --> 00:08:53,580 matter . This matters because the 199 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:55,080 issues we deal with on the 200 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,247 appropriations committee are not about 201 00:08:57,247 --> 00:08:58,913 pinching pennies or reviewing 202 00:08:58,913 --> 00:09:00,858 accounting procedures , it's about 203 00:09:00,858 --> 00:09:03,080 getting our troops what they need to do 204 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,191 their jobs at the right time , at the 205 00:09:05,191 --> 00:09:06,913 right cost so that they can be 206 00:09:06,913 --> 00:09:09,024 successful to that end . It will also 207 00:09:09,024 --> 00:09:11,136 be important for us to understand the 208 00:09:11,136 --> 00:09:11,040 financial impacts of the 209 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,280 administration's decision to retrograde 210 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,120 from Afghanistan , both with respect to 211 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,240 reductions in spending for in country 212 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,600 activities in Afghanistan , as well as 213 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,600 cost increases for over the horizon 214 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,050 support . And finally , we hope to dig 215 00:09:25,050 --> 00:09:27,272 in on your team's implementation of the 216 00:09:27,272 --> 00:09:29,217 department wide priorities such as 217 00:09:29,217 --> 00:09:30,994 increasing the duties , climate 218 00:09:30,994 --> 00:09:33,050 resiliency , modernizing the nuclear 219 00:09:33,050 --> 00:09:35,250 triad and what it means to divest from 220 00:09:35,250 --> 00:09:37,710 legacy capabilities , particularly when 221 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:39,932 these divestments can have real impacts 222 00:09:39,932 --> 00:09:41,932 on our warfighting . Once again , I 223 00:09:41,932 --> 00:09:44,043 want to thank the witnesses for their 224 00:09:44,043 --> 00:09:46,154 testimony today and I look forward to 225 00:09:46,154 --> 00:09:48,377 hearing from each of them . Thank you . 226 00:09:48,377 --> 00:09:51,200 And we tried to follow the office of 227 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,200 attending physicians guidelines on the 228 00:09:55,210 --> 00:09:57,432 distance here . If anybody is not fully 229 00:09:57,432 --> 00:10:01,130 vaccinated , they are required to wear 230 00:10:01,130 --> 00:10:04,940 a mask . five minute rounds with 231 00:10:06,140 --> 00:10:09,740 uh , after Senator Shelby and 232 00:10:09,740 --> 00:10:12,960 I hours senators will go back and forth 233 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,770 will be recognize the order of 234 00:10:15,770 --> 00:10:18,990 seniority . Somebody misses the turn 235 00:10:18,990 --> 00:10:21,460 and we joined up putting back in line . 236 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,460 Um , This is 237 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,810 Secretary Austin's first time for 238 00:10:28,810 --> 00:10:32,420 appearing here before this committee 239 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:34,860 and I have already told him earlier 240 00:10:34,860 --> 00:10:37,770 this week . I appreciate that the 241 00:10:37,770 --> 00:10:41,120 remark Millie has appeared before this 242 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,600 committee in the past , but I believe 243 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,544 General this is your first time as 244 00:10:46,544 --> 00:10:48,950 chairman of the Joint Chiefs and 245 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:53,890 like the rest of us who uh , support 246 00:10:53,890 --> 00:10:57,050 you in that position . So um 247 00:10:57,910 --> 00:11:00,077 Secretary Austin , please feel free to 248 00:11:00,077 --> 00:11:04,020 go ahead sir . Thank you sir , Jeremy , 249 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:07,390 Lady Vice Chairman Shelby . Chairman 250 00:11:07,390 --> 00:11:09,557 tester . Distinguished members of this 251 00:11:09,557 --> 00:11:11,470 committee . Thank you For the 252 00:11:11,470 --> 00:11:13,637 opportunity to testify today about the 253 00:11:13,637 --> 00:11:15,748 president's budget request for fiscal 254 00:11:15,748 --> 00:11:18,990 year 2022 . I'm pleased to appear 255 00:11:18,990 --> 00:11:20,823 alongside General Milley , whose 256 00:11:20,823 --> 00:11:22,879 counsel has been crucial to us as we 257 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:25,430 developed our budget and as we continue 258 00:11:25,430 --> 00:11:27,541 to defend this nation which of course 259 00:11:27,541 --> 00:11:30,260 is our top priority . Let me say at the 260 00:11:30,260 --> 00:11:32,093 outset that I believe our budget 261 00:11:32,093 --> 00:11:33,816 requests will help us to match 262 00:11:33,816 --> 00:11:35,871 resources to strategy and strategy , 263 00:11:35,871 --> 00:11:38,070 strategy to policy and policy to the 264 00:11:38,070 --> 00:11:40,720 will of the american people . This 265 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,831 budget is informed by the president's 266 00:11:42,831 --> 00:11:44,998 interim national security guidance and 267 00:11:44,998 --> 00:11:46,990 my own message to the force . We 268 00:11:46,990 --> 00:11:49,157 believe that it funds the right mix of 269 00:11:49,157 --> 00:11:51,470 capabilities that we need most to 270 00:11:51,470 --> 00:11:53,530 defend this nation now and in the 271 00:11:53,530 --> 00:11:56,560 future it invests in hypersonic weapons 272 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,560 and artificial intelligence , micro 273 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:01,090 electronics , five G . Technology , 274 00:12:01,090 --> 00:12:03,850 space based systems , shipbuilding and 275 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:06,160 nuclear modernization . To name a few . 276 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,110 In fact , This budget asked you to 277 00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:11,530 approve nearly $28 billion dollars to 278 00:12:11,530 --> 00:12:15,160 modernize our nuclear triad And $112 279 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,020 billion dollars for research , 280 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:20,650 development , testing and evaluation . 281 00:12:21,140 --> 00:12:23,196 The largest R . And D . Request ever 282 00:12:23,196 --> 00:12:25,760 put forth by this department . Our 283 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,871 request also gives us the flexibility 284 00:12:27,871 --> 00:12:29,816 to divest ourselves of systems and 285 00:12:29,816 --> 00:12:32,460 platforms that no longer meet our needs 286 00:12:32,940 --> 00:12:35,660 including older ships , aircraft and is 287 00:12:35,660 --> 00:12:38,020 our platforms the demand more 288 00:12:38,020 --> 00:12:40,740 maintenance upkeep and risk than we can 289 00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:43,840 afford . The department must be ready 290 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,951 to keep pace with our competitors and 291 00:12:45,951 --> 00:12:48,350 if necessary to fight and win the next 292 00:12:48,350 --> 00:12:52,170 war And not the last one . That's 293 00:12:52,170 --> 00:12:54,392 why we've commissioned a global posture 294 00:12:54,392 --> 00:12:56,337 review in the new National Defense 295 00:12:56,337 --> 00:12:58,503 strategy which will further inform and 296 00:12:58,503 --> 00:13:00,670 guide our resource decision . And this 297 00:13:00,670 --> 00:13:02,892 budget reflects our focus on the pacing 298 00:13:02,892 --> 00:13:05,059 challenge that we clearly see from the 299 00:13:05,059 --> 00:13:07,810 People's Republic of china To include 300 00:13:07,810 --> 00:13:10,930 more than $5 billion Pacific Deterrence 301 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:13,740 Initiative and diode investments more 302 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:17,190 broadly . Last week our china task 303 00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:19,850 force completed its work and I issued 304 00:13:19,850 --> 00:13:21,739 an internal directive kicking off 305 00:13:21,739 --> 00:13:24,190 department wide efforts that will , 306 00:13:24,190 --> 00:13:26,301 among other things , help bolster our 307 00:13:26,301 --> 00:13:28,380 deterrence against the PRC and 308 00:13:28,380 --> 00:13:31,090 revitalize our network of regional 309 00:13:31,090 --> 00:13:33,500 allies and partners and accelerate the 310 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,056 development of cutting edge 311 00:13:35,056 --> 00:13:37,440 capabilities in new operational 312 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,280 concepts . However , China is not our 313 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,640 only challenge . Our budget also invest 314 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,540 $617 million dollars to counter the 315 00:13:45,540 --> 00:13:48,190 damaging effects of climate change . An 316 00:13:48,190 --> 00:13:50,357 additional funds to prepare for future 317 00:13:50,357 --> 00:13:53,040 challenges like another pandemic . It 318 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,984 helps us counter belligerence from 319 00:13:54,984 --> 00:13:57,151 Russia , especially in the cyber realm 320 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,896 And you'll see more than $10 billion 321 00:13:59,896 --> 00:14:01,840 dollars devoted to cybersecurity , 322 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,560 cyber cyberspace operations and cyber 323 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,330 research and development . And with its 324 00:14:07,540 --> 00:14:09,730 emphasis on space and missile defense 325 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:12,410 and more sophisticated sensors . Our 326 00:14:12,410 --> 00:14:14,800 budget will also help us counter the 327 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,550 increasing ballistic missile 328 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:19,400 capabilities of nations like Iran and 329 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,040 North Korea . It funds the troop 330 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,707 presence and counterterrorism 331 00:14:23,707 --> 00:14:25,707 capabilities in the Middle East and 332 00:14:25,707 --> 00:14:27,651 South Asia and to meet the threats 333 00:14:27,651 --> 00:14:30,230 posed by not not only by Iran but also 334 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:32,397 by terrorist networks like IsIS and Al 335 00:14:32,397 --> 00:14:35,630 Qaeda and in Africa like those polls by 336 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,600 Al Shabaab . And it helps us maintain 337 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,822 the integrated deterrent capability and 338 00:14:40,822 --> 00:14:43,210 global posture necessary to back up the 339 00:14:43,210 --> 00:14:46,350 hard work of our diplomats , our allies 340 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,040 and partners . Now I know that 341 00:14:49,050 --> 00:14:51,260 Afghanistan remains at the top of all 342 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:53,700 our minds and I can report that the 343 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:56,670 retrograde remains on pace . We had a 344 00:14:56,670 --> 00:14:58,670 chance this week to update our NATO 345 00:14:58,670 --> 00:15:01,270 allies in brussels and I was encouraged 346 00:15:01,270 --> 00:15:03,437 by their continued support for the new 347 00:15:03,437 --> 00:15:05,550 direction that we're taking . We've 348 00:15:05,550 --> 00:15:07,717 accomplished the mission for which our 349 00:15:07,717 --> 00:15:09,661 troops were sent to Afghanistan 20 350 00:15:09,661 --> 00:15:11,661 years ago and I'm very proud of the 351 00:15:11,661 --> 00:15:13,439 brave men and women who made it 352 00:15:13,439 --> 00:15:15,661 possible and those who gave their lives 353 00:15:15,661 --> 00:15:18,150 for that mission . I'm also deeply 354 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:20,372 grateful to the families of our service 355 00:15:20,372 --> 00:15:23,580 members who have endured so much as 356 00:15:23,580 --> 00:15:25,747 they sent their sons and daughters and 357 00:15:25,747 --> 00:15:28,620 husbands and wives into battle . We 358 00:15:28,620 --> 00:15:30,787 will now transition to a new bilateral 359 00:15:30,787 --> 00:15:33,009 relationship with our Afghan partners , 360 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,600 one that helps them meet their 361 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,660 responsibilities to their citizens , 362 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,462 but one that will not require a U . S . 363 00:15:40,462 --> 00:15:42,720 Footprint larger than what's necessary 364 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,190 to protect our diplomats . And that's 365 00:15:45,190 --> 00:15:47,190 one reason why we're asking to move 366 00:15:47,190 --> 00:15:49,079 overseas , contingency operations 367 00:15:49,079 --> 00:15:52,440 funding inside the budget . This will 368 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,270 add greater transparency , 369 00:15:54,350 --> 00:15:56,510 accountability and predictability to 370 00:15:56,510 --> 00:15:59,380 the budgeting process and frankly it's 371 00:15:59,380 --> 00:16:02,310 overdue . Now this budget also takes 372 00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:04,450 care of our people . It increases 373 00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:06,540 funding to support in home care and 374 00:16:06,540 --> 00:16:09,090 support , which has become increasingly 375 00:16:09,090 --> 00:16:11,840 important during the pandemic . We also 376 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,500 seek to improve military base pain and 377 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:16,920 retention bonuses and other incentives 378 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,470 that will help help us attract and 379 00:16:19,470 --> 00:16:22,260 retain the best talent and we will be 380 00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:24,427 working hard to combat challenges that 381 00:16:24,427 --> 00:16:26,550 make service in the ranks more 382 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:28,717 difficult for all the men and women of 383 00:16:28,717 --> 00:16:30,772 the department from getting a better 384 00:16:30,772 --> 00:16:32,606 handle on the extent to which we 385 00:16:32,606 --> 00:16:34,680 experienced extremist behavior to 386 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,260 combating sexual assault and harassment . 387 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,807 We know we have a lot of work to do in 388 00:16:40,807 --> 00:16:42,973 this regard and we're ready to do it . 389 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,960 Chairman Leahy members of the committee . 390 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,807 We feel the greatest military in human 391 00:16:48,807 --> 00:16:51,100 history , made up of the finest men and 392 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:53,211 women who have ever done the cloth of 393 00:16:53,211 --> 00:16:55,740 their nation . We also enjoy a civilian 394 00:16:55,740 --> 00:16:57,740 workforce force deeply committed to 395 00:16:57,740 --> 00:17:01,060 every mission that we take on and no 396 00:17:01,060 --> 00:17:03,227 adversary can match the quality of our 397 00:17:03,227 --> 00:17:05,610 people . I am immensely , immensely 398 00:17:05,610 --> 00:17:07,666 proud and humbled to serve with them 399 00:17:07,666 --> 00:17:09,666 again And I can assure you that the 400 00:17:09,666 --> 00:17:11,777 president's budget request for fiscal 401 00:17:11,777 --> 00:17:15,170 year 2020 2022 fulfills our 402 00:17:15,170 --> 00:17:17,660 obligations to them and their families . 403 00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:20,307 I thank you for your steadfast support 404 00:17:20,307 --> 00:17:22,473 of the department and for all that you 405 00:17:22,473 --> 00:17:24,620 do to ensure that we remain ready to 406 00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:26,842 defend this nation . And I look forward 407 00:17:26,842 --> 00:17:29,176 to answering your questions . Thank you . 408 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,910 Thank you very much . And General 409 00:17:31,910 --> 00:17:32,910 Milley . 410 00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:39,670 No . Yeah . 411 00:17:42,740 --> 00:17:45,260 Mhm . Oh 412 00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:49,650 Marine Sergeant important 413 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,460 you are our group . So that way 414 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,450 right . More anywhere . 415 00:18:01,540 --> 00:18:02,540 Mhm . 416 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:12,770 No . And why is that 417 00:18:13,540 --> 00:18:15,660 we're going for ? You are 418 00:18:17,540 --> 00:18:19,160 all right there 419 00:18:22,140 --> 00:18:25,740 ground load . We're 420 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:28,500 also fully engaged at home . Both 421 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:31,310 defendants towards simple story Go to 422 00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:34,900 19 medical vaccinations work while the 423 00:18:34,910 --> 00:18:37,770 Homeland . In fact the americans say 424 00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:40,707 we're trying to make their enterprises 425 00:18:40,707 --> 00:18:43,670 in europe monitoring the DND and career . 426 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,889 There have not been drinking game 427 00:18:45,889 --> 00:18:49,790 cooperation . The Secret four Way 428 00:18:50,140 --> 00:18:53,510 Low Time . We're staying . Operations 429 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:56,660 and faith I'm afraid . We are 430 00:18:56,670 --> 00:18:58,726 supporting our allies and partners . 431 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,460 The after the America we're golden died . 432 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,460 All right . More 433 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,500 apparently back to being insane . It's 434 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:13,170 probable . Remember comedian revelry . 435 00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:16,690 All right . Mhm . And good or all 436 00:19:16,700 --> 00:19:20,070 during the meeting . More . Yeah . Very 437 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,130 well , firms in the United States are 438 00:19:23,130 --> 00:19:26,670 very man 439 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,096 constitution of the United States of 440 00:19:29,096 --> 00:19:32,890 America . Bye morning with 441 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:36,490 that . Do keep that that 442 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:39,670 one very quietly in our before 443 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,460 your car engine . He's after . 444 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,650 Right . Yeah . 445 00:19:48,740 --> 00:19:51,660 In your americans are tired of war . 446 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,750 Had a very five miles . The United 447 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:58,270 States military is a critical component , 448 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,160 man . How constable and 449 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,800 dramatic . You know , I mean the whole 450 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,450 white hope . All right . That was a 451 00:20:08,450 --> 00:20:11,910 combination for a register nerve 452 00:20:11,910 --> 00:20:15,320 remark . You're an error . The 453 00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:17,550 increase in median property , 454 00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:21,620 continuity , friendly witnessing 455 00:20:21,630 --> 00:20:25,600 graphic pain . Yeah , injuries . 456 00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:27,960 Practice these instability . Merit 457 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,750 rations and engaged in the world is 458 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,740 increasing , not decreasing state and 459 00:20:34,740 --> 00:20:38,230 non state actors . Around 3.7 460 00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:41,950 11 we are very good to a fundamental 461 00:20:41,950 --> 00:20:45,750 change in the character of war . A 462 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,240 ridiculous right decrease . He told you 463 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,670 everything really very serious , 464 00:20:52,140 --> 00:20:55,170 staying hydrated . We must ensure that 465 00:20:55,230 --> 00:20:58,840 we fail . Yes , the 466 00:20:58,850 --> 00:21:01,670 patient fresh secondly , honest and 467 00:21:01,670 --> 00:21:04,460 dragged us to do brilliant 468 00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:07,850 modernization . We found that our party 469 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,980 a terrible war in many magazines and 470 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:14,160 equally important , combat home 471 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,570 requires teamwork reasons as well as in 472 00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:20,450 you want to call to get through a 473 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:22,640 sexual assault in the front of the 474 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,570 issue of training . Focus on the road 475 00:21:26,980 --> 00:21:30,980 again what means big of and they 476 00:21:30,980 --> 00:21:34,430 destroy believe they destroyed the work 477 00:21:34,450 --> 00:21:37,780 and there is not back out again . 478 00:21:38,290 --> 00:21:40,530 You must leave room as and leave the 479 00:21:40,530 --> 00:21:44,130 development now and wired leader . Very 480 00:21:44,130 --> 00:21:47,860 environment violence must need a 481 00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:50,620 nervous saying . Each getting sort of 482 00:21:50,620 --> 00:21:53,540 our brains with our network with many 483 00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:55,940 close allies department around the 484 00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:58,860 world during the first three games . 485 00:21:58,870 --> 00:22:00,814 Work and relax for a minute or two 486 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,240 ensure that we have the resources . 487 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,060 Being strange with Manafort is going to 488 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:09,830 be ready . Today's money Polack . No , 489 00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:13,660 no repeated considering our boots , the 490 00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:16,770 ruling . Grand . Hopefully it's good 491 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:20,250 going forward to deliver modernization 492 00:22:20,260 --> 00:22:23,770 or awkward . Very little world . 493 00:22:24,540 --> 00:22:27,730 The everybody's invited where $7.15 494 00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:30,770 million dollars man 495 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,430 friends of the american people . We 496 00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:36,560 know that in front of the world will 497 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,960 work building there is a bedroom past 498 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,280 the threat on a Yes . Why 22 499 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,450 presidential wasn't as a result very 500 00:22:46,460 --> 00:22:49,780 hard with the year with today 501 00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:54,910 reported I think the lions that 502 00:22:54,910 --> 00:22:57,132 mathematics is very competed to kind of 503 00:22:57,540 --> 00:23:00,670 This bicycle livers ready agile and 504 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:04,630 capable . 24th yellow beet sugar win 505 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,510 across all the main anywhere on the 506 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,670 globe . We are hot . Do you 507 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,770 just watching her arthur the 508 00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:17,490 reorganization laundering fire 509 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:20,160 hydroponic technology , artificial 510 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,140 intelligence just building fiber left 511 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:26,130 on space fiber quietly . 512 00:23:26,940 --> 00:23:28,930 These are the constable recently 513 00:23:28,930 --> 00:23:32,460 involved 24 by any conversation table a 514 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,170 refined for when an economy 515 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,190 Meeting went to that one . Well the 516 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,550 reason read before found in my 517 00:23:43,550 --> 00:23:46,560 apartment During our people . Our 518 00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:50,460 number one bird James is people 519 00:23:51,340 --> 00:23:54,680 decision for april wife or on the movie . 520 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,000 Credit this pain in the back . How 521 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,640 about this for that . This 522 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,000 find a way incredibly important . Yes . 523 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,970 quite 22 President ready to work for 524 00:24:08,970 --> 00:24:11,360 your town . He served in the restaurant 525 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,630 the modern day . The dominant , 526 00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:19,460 the bias with the fever operating line . 527 00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:23,490 No . So we must set ourselves on a path 528 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,050 to modernize drink . four in this 529 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:28,670 budget contributed . Doing better pack 530 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,510 many of the burden from china , 531 00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:34,399 president of the United States of 532 00:24:34,399 --> 00:24:36,760 America . There are you . We are right 533 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,410 now . Hold her name in Indonesia . Any 534 00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:44,090 adversary of United ? Yeah . Although 535 00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:47,260 there you can believe fill our will . 536 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,580 Huh ? Our job . We're running for our 537 00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:55,260 final apparently the United States of 538 00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:59,140 The five men involved who was awarded 539 00:24:59,140 --> 00:25:01,770 the constitution . Always on the ground . 540 00:25:02,010 --> 00:25:05,460 Now look forward question . Thank you 541 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:09,410 both very much . Secretary Austin on 542 00:25:09,410 --> 00:25:13,400 monday you and Secretary Blinken 543 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,250 joined the president at the NATO summit 544 00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:18,204 where he called the north atlantic 545 00:25:18,204 --> 00:25:20,390 treaty of Sacred obligation of mutual 546 00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:23,150 defense . And we've discussed that 547 00:25:23,150 --> 00:25:26,130 meeting , I've said before and past 548 00:25:26,130 --> 00:25:29,200 secretaries the defensive both parties 549 00:25:29,210 --> 00:25:31,670 administrations have agreed with me . 550 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,490 They're our nation's defense is 551 00:25:34,490 --> 00:25:37,000 strongest when we invest not only in 552 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,710 our military but in our people and the 553 00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:41,530 best of priorities that are the 554 00:25:41,530 --> 00:25:45,130 hallmark of this democracy . Department 555 00:25:45,130 --> 00:25:47,074 of Defense is part of a network of 556 00:25:47,074 --> 00:25:48,797 federal agencies including the 557 00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:50,797 Department of State , Department of 558 00:25:50,797 --> 00:25:53,100 Homeland Security , Treasury , Commerce 559 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:56,470 Agriculture More than that seek to 560 00:25:56,470 --> 00:26:00,140 secure our nation promote our national 561 00:26:00,170 --> 00:26:03,920 Defense Secretary Austin . Do you 562 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,170 agree that our investments in education , 563 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,200 medical research , nutrition , economic 564 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,850 development , agriculture , environment 565 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:17,730 and all these do enhance our national 566 00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:20,670 security support our nations to 567 00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:22,770 Defense Strategy 568 00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:27,910 Chairman . I do . I think that one of 569 00:26:27,910 --> 00:26:30,021 the things that has occurred over the 570 00:26:30,021 --> 00:26:33,270 years is that we've we've fallen 571 00:26:33,270 --> 00:26:37,030 behind our ability to produce , you 572 00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:39,197 know , enough scientists and engineers 573 00:26:39,197 --> 00:26:41,460 to be able to create the kinds of 574 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,560 technology that we need going forward . 575 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,700 So our goal is to make sure that , you 576 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:51,430 know , we begin to re 577 00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:53,710 sure a lot of the things that we've 578 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,810 exported to overseas capabilities in 579 00:26:56,810 --> 00:26:58,366 the past and we'll need the 580 00:26:58,366 --> 00:27:00,740 technological base to be able to do 581 00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:03,073 that going forward . So I absolutely do . 582 00:27:03,073 --> 00:27:05,351 Senator Chairman , thank you very much . 583 00:27:05,351 --> 00:27:09,060 And as a result of the Press , it 584 00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:12,630 ended assault on January six of the 585 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,030 capital of the National Guard , spent 586 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,762 nearly five months assigned to 587 00:27:17,762 --> 00:27:20,870 protection duties at the capitol Guide 588 00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:23,750 members from all over the country . The 589 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:25,861 cost for that deployment is estimated 590 00:27:25,861 --> 00:27:29,660 to be over $500 million . I know you 591 00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:32,260 were told the Guard would right baby 592 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,100 reimbursed for these costs . Senator 593 00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:37,933 Shelby and I are responsible for 594 00:27:37,933 --> 00:27:40,370 drafting a Senate alternative . The 595 00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:43,340 House passed security supplemental . We 596 00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:45,770 have other urgent needs to overtime 597 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040 hazard pay , mental health services for 598 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,207 our capitol police . All these must be 599 00:27:51,207 --> 00:27:54,320 met . My question for you is just what 600 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,610 happens if congress does not pass the 601 00:27:57,610 --> 00:27:59,443 supplemental appropriations bill 602 00:27:59,443 --> 00:28:03,200 reimbursing the National Guard for 603 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,360 these cars before the Senate House 604 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,151 choir of session in august what's the 605 00:28:08,151 --> 00:28:10,096 impact of the men and women in the 606 00:28:10,096 --> 00:28:12,310 guard ? Well , the short answer 607 00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:14,800 chairman is that it will impact their 608 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,780 ability in the short in the near term 609 00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:19,840 to be able to train and adequately 610 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,860 prepare the Guard for for its future 611 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:26,040 for its current responsibilities . I 612 00:28:26,050 --> 00:28:28,050 would just like to say , well , I'm 613 00:28:28,050 --> 00:28:30,106 answering this question , Chairman . 614 00:28:30,106 --> 00:28:32,272 That , you know , I'm absolutely proud 615 00:28:32,272 --> 00:28:34,383 of the work that our Guard has done . 616 00:28:34,383 --> 00:28:36,494 And you mentioned the tremendous work 617 00:28:36,494 --> 00:28:38,606 that they did in the in the capital , 618 00:28:38,606 --> 00:28:41,420 but they've also around the country , 619 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:44,660 been very instrumental in helping to uh 620 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,550 helping us to get shots out into 621 00:28:47,550 --> 00:28:49,980 people's arms during the vaccination 622 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:52,700 effort . Uh They've they've answered 623 00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:56,610 the call uh to fight fires and uh and 624 00:28:56,620 --> 00:29:00,410 other disasters . Uh and so uh 625 00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:03,940 they've been very busy and we need to 626 00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:06,350 make sure that we have the resources 627 00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:08,780 required to ensure that we can continue 628 00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:12,410 to train and equip the garden . I 629 00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:14,420 agree I've seen there . But they've 630 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:17,410 done in that uh natural disasters in my 631 00:29:17,410 --> 00:29:20,060 own state of Vermont but they also in 632 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:22,790 other states around the country , in 633 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,790 general Milley , there have been calls 634 00:29:25,790 --> 00:29:27,957 to expand the defense budget . We face 635 00:29:27,957 --> 00:29:31,300 a dire outcome . But you said it's not 636 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:33,810 simply about numbers , it's about 637 00:29:33,810 --> 00:29:36,520 having the discipline and the certainty 638 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,576 to spend the money you have wisely . 639 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,590 What are some of the consequences the 640 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:44,630 department defense faces And by 641 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:46,852 extension , of course the men and women 642 00:29:46,852 --> 00:29:49,510 in uniform , their families . If we 643 00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:52,510 just simply put it on autopilot with a 644 00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:55,210 continuing resolution and stop gap 645 00:29:55,220 --> 00:29:58,670 funding . Mhm . 646 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,040 Go to continue . Resolute . Yeah . 647 00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:08,160 Yes . Mhm . Play contract . 648 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,930 Yeah . 20 years to build . Yeah . 649 00:30:14,540 --> 00:30:18,220 Also exactly training of the 650 00:30:18,220 --> 00:30:22,080 unit the drill . Don't 651 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,030 mind that . Yeah . Continuing 652 00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:27,740 resolution . Not good . Of course , 653 00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:29,790 back . No , my 654 00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:35,280 it's very you are great lean on 655 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,224 that . If you get all the National 656 00:30:37,224 --> 00:30:39,660 Guard all the world . We haven't 657 00:30:39,660 --> 00:30:43,080 committed for these measures tremendous 658 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,807 investment . They gave the part of the 659 00:30:45,807 --> 00:30:48,029 national park . They're an army over 50 660 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,930 United States . So we don't get 500 661 00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:55,670 million moment or part of that 662 00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:58,913 different negative impact their ability . 663 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,940 Thank you . And uh huh 664 00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:08,230 That's true . Mm Yes . 665 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,560 Uh Secretary Austin , we have 666 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,290 one thing we have in 667 00:31:17,290 --> 00:31:19,720 Vermont , we have semiconductor fab . 668 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,776 This part of the trusted boundary as 669 00:31:21,776 --> 00:31:24,400 many other states , We just passed a 670 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,456 bill that includes 54 billion to the 671 00:31:26,456 --> 00:31:29,010 commerce department for such a 672 00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:32,130 commercial Fabs to revitalized and 673 00:31:32,130 --> 00:31:35,760 bring us up to date and micro 674 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,120 electronics . But I asked how is 675 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,850 the department um 676 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,910 investing in such microelectronic 677 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,640 technology ? Because we're we're 678 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,160 going on more and more are 679 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,270 the networks and 680 00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:02,170 and we know that other countries uh 681 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,420 accelerating their use of such things 682 00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:08,630 and I apologize to Senator Shelby for 683 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,870 going over my time . But if you could 684 00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:12,203 respond to that , sir , 685 00:32:14,740 --> 00:32:17,670 thank you . Chairman . As you've seen , 686 00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:20,840 there's uh there's $2.3 billion dollars 687 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,560 in this budget for micro electronics . 688 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,080 And that Department of Defense is 689 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,191 participating as a part of a whole of 690 00:32:29,191 --> 00:32:32,200 government effort to ensure that we 691 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,700 begin to boost domestic production of 692 00:32:35,710 --> 00:32:38,890 key electronic elements that we know 693 00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:41,112 that we'll need going into the future . 694 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,710 Um Senator Shelby that we need to pause 695 00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:53,190 by minister fix uh couple of 696 00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:55,580 microphones . Is that okay with you or 697 00:32:55,580 --> 00:32:58,170 would you rather take your time first ? 698 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,073 Why don't you go ahead with your 699 00:33:01,073 --> 00:33:03,690 question 1st ? It will pause . Yeah , 700 00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:05,756 it will pass for five minutes to fix 701 00:33:05,756 --> 00:33:09,460 the microphone and I have no idea how 702 00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:11,516 you do that . Leave that to somebody 703 00:33:11,516 --> 00:33:13,950 much higher . Great , thank you . 704 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,370 Maybe I'd ask uh Chairman Billy , is it 705 00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:25,540 working now ? Yeah . 706 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,370 Yeah . But Oh 707 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,990 okay . Is it working ? It's working , 708 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,278 Sarah , Shall we go ahead , sir ? Born . 709 00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:37,940 Thank you . Mr Chairman . I believe 710 00:33:37,940 --> 00:33:40,273 he's mike's working general . Thank you . 711 00:33:40,273 --> 00:33:43,090 Um The department stated that it is 712 00:33:43,090 --> 00:33:45,530 prioritizing . China is our number one 713 00:33:45,530 --> 00:33:49,170 pacing challenge . I pose this 714 00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:51,114 question of the Secretary into you 715 00:33:51,114 --> 00:33:53,290 general . How does this year's flat 716 00:33:53,290 --> 00:33:56,700 defense budget adequately reflect that 717 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,550 prioritization ? What specific 718 00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:01,850 investments are we making to counter 719 00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:04,330 China's increasing military 720 00:34:04,330 --> 00:34:06,660 capabilities ? And assuming it 721 00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:09,960 appropriately prioritizes uh China , 722 00:34:09,970 --> 00:34:12,320 what are we ignoring ? Because we can't 723 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,760 do everything with a flat budget . And 724 00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:17,362 I know some of the stuff you can't talk 725 00:34:17,362 --> 00:34:20,240 about in this hearing today , but tell 726 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:23,860 us what's your prioritizing and why 727 00:34:25,340 --> 00:34:27,870 if you are , Thank you . Vice Chairman . 728 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,030 Um uh China is in fact are facing 729 00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:33,610 challenge and it is my priority focus . 730 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,180 You've seen that through uh quite 731 00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:39,780 frankly , our actions . My first 732 00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:41,960 overseas trip along with Secretary 733 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,810 Blinken , was over to the indo pacific 734 00:34:44,810 --> 00:34:48,740 region . Uh we uh you 735 00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:51,220 saw me stand up to china task force 736 00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:54,080 that has helped to focus the efforts of 737 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,670 the department on making sure that uh 738 00:34:57,940 --> 00:34:59,996 that we're doing the right things to 739 00:34:59,996 --> 00:35:02,260 create the capabilities and develop the 740 00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:04,580 operational concepts that we need to be 741 00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:08,090 successful in terms of specific 742 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:10,660 issues or capabilities that we're 743 00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:14,270 investing in in this budget . Uh you 744 00:35:14,270 --> 00:35:17,880 see , uh Almost $2021 745 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,050 billion for missile defense and defeat 746 00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:24,400 uh six $.6 billion for long range 747 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,160 fires . $52 billion dollar investment 748 00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:31,420 for lethal air force , Uh $34 billion 749 00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:37,470 $12.3 750 00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:38,470 billion 751 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:45,830 $28 752 00:35:45,830 --> 00:35:49,050 billion dollars to uh to modernize the 753 00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:51,520 nuclear try it . So I I think when you 754 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,100 consider that you consider the $10.5 755 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,267 billion that we're investing in things 756 00:35:56,267 --> 00:35:58,322 like cyber what we're doing in uh in 757 00:35:58,322 --> 00:35:59,990 space uh to create additional 758 00:35:59,990 --> 00:36:03,390 capabilities . Uh we are investing 759 00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:06,020 quite a bit . Uh We also invested 760 00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:10,020 $5.1 billion for the the Pacific 761 00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:12,730 Defense Initiative . And I think uh I 762 00:36:12,730 --> 00:36:15,270 think the aggregate there really has is 763 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,000 will generate a lot of capability 764 00:36:18,010 --> 00:36:20,750 that's that's focused on china 765 00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:23,974 senator . Could I make a comment ? 766 00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:27,400 That's okay . Um This budget 767 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,100 biases future modernization . You 768 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,378 always have to do future modernization , 769 00:36:32,378 --> 00:36:34,211 which is another word for future 770 00:36:34,211 --> 00:36:36,267 readiness and current operations and 771 00:36:36,267 --> 00:36:38,322 current readiness . There's always a 772 00:36:38,322 --> 00:36:40,280 balance previous budgets biased , 773 00:36:40,290 --> 00:36:43,160 biased , the present . This budget 774 00:36:43,170 --> 00:36:45,550 starts leaning into the future and it's 775 00:36:45,550 --> 00:36:48,580 now that we need to pivot because the 776 00:36:48,580 --> 00:36:50,691 future , believe it or not , is going 777 00:36:50,691 --> 00:36:52,858 to get there someday . And about 10 or 778 00:36:52,858 --> 00:36:55,080 15 years from now we will be in a world 779 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,136 of hurt in the National Security Geo 780 00:36:57,136 --> 00:36:59,358 Strategic World unless we invest in the 781 00:36:59,358 --> 00:37:01,302 modernization of the United States 782 00:37:01,302 --> 00:37:03,302 military . This budget specifically 783 00:37:03,302 --> 00:37:05,870 starts doing that in very explicit ways . 784 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,824 With explicit programs such as the 785 00:37:07,824 --> 00:37:11,190 Secretary just outlined . We are in the 786 00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:13,301 midst of a change in the character of 787 00:37:13,301 --> 00:37:15,301 war . Perhaps the biggest change in 788 00:37:15,301 --> 00:37:17,468 over 100 years and we are investing in 789 00:37:17,468 --> 00:37:20,130 hypersonic robotic five G micro 790 00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:21,741 electronics and all kinds of 791 00:37:21,741 --> 00:37:23,852 investments in this . And this is the 792 00:37:23,852 --> 00:37:25,852 beginning of a pivot to a future US 793 00:37:25,852 --> 00:37:28,019 military that will be able to maintain 794 00:37:28,019 --> 00:37:30,130 its overmatch in some future conflict 795 00:37:30,130 --> 00:37:32,130 against for example , pacing threat 796 00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:34,130 like china , the secretary . Do you 797 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:36,130 believe that we're investing enough 798 00:37:36,130 --> 00:37:38,130 money or in your budget or proposed 799 00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:41,800 budget that far ? Hypersonic 800 00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:44,530 weapons and also for the few quantum 801 00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:46,980 computing . Both are very important for 802 00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:49,202 the future . It's general , just hope . 803 00:37:49,202 --> 00:37:51,258 I think these are . Thank you . Vice 804 00:37:51,258 --> 00:37:53,410 Chairman . I think these are both 805 00:37:53,420 --> 00:37:56,300 critical capabilities that will need 806 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:59,100 going forward in terms of hypersonic , 807 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:00,777 we not only need an offensive 808 00:38:00,777 --> 00:38:02,943 capability but we also need to be able 809 00:38:02,943 --> 00:38:04,777 to defend ourselves against uh , 810 00:38:04,777 --> 00:38:07,780 hypersonic capable capability generated 811 00:38:07,780 --> 00:38:11,770 by china or Russia . Uh and I think 812 00:38:11,770 --> 00:38:14,680 this budget Vice chairman gives us the 813 00:38:14,690 --> 00:38:16,801 flexibility to go after the right mix 814 00:38:16,801 --> 00:38:18,857 of capabilities that will need to be 815 00:38:18,857 --> 00:38:20,857 not only relevant in the future but 816 00:38:20,857 --> 00:38:23,910 dominant shifting a little bit . Last 817 00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:25,930 month , President biden pledged his 818 00:38:25,930 --> 00:38:28,910 full support quoting to replenish 819 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,690 Israel's iron dome missile defense 820 00:38:31,690 --> 00:38:34,020 system . After significant numbers of 821 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:36,460 rounds were used to shoot down Hamas 822 00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:38,920 fired rockets . Secretary Austin . 823 00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:41,630 Should we expect this committee expect 824 00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:44,280 to see a request to replenish Israel's 825 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,450 iron Dome , if not why not ? 826 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,660 Uh you will see a request . Uh Vice 827 00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:53,827 Chairman , uh you know , I've had this 828 00:38:53,827 --> 00:38:56,570 conversation with uh Minister Minister 829 00:38:56,570 --> 00:38:58,800 of Defense , Benny Gantz , we were 830 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,630 together about two weeks ago , uh and 831 00:39:01,630 --> 00:39:03,940 he walked through the details of uh you 832 00:39:03,940 --> 00:39:06,150 know what his requirements were , were 833 00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:08,610 working to flesh out those details . 834 00:39:08,610 --> 00:39:11,690 And uh and you will see a request in 835 00:39:11,690 --> 00:39:14,450 the future . Uh Thank you , 836 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,650 thank you very much , shall be in . 837 00:39:20,220 --> 00:39:23,770 Senator Feinstein , thanks very 838 00:39:23,770 --> 00:39:27,690 much Mr Chairman Secretary Austin 839 00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:30,460 and General Milley , as you mentioned , 840 00:39:30,460 --> 00:39:32,910 the Department of Defense is focusing 841 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:35,950 more on the indo pacific and china . 842 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:39,220 And I think we face as a California and 843 00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:41,900 I think we face a challenging strategic 844 00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,490 environment and that the United States 845 00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:47,180 has to be prepared to act in a region 846 00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:49,940 that's much closer in many respects to 847 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:52,450 china than to the United States . 848 00:39:52,820 --> 00:39:56,530 So we need to be smart , we 849 00:39:56,530 --> 00:40:00,420 need to have conversations and we need 850 00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:04,040 to be strong as well . And one of the 851 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,590 things that has concerned me , I see a 852 00:40:07,590 --> 00:40:10,700 lot in the West about various countries 853 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:13,730 having military to military meetings , 854 00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:16,590 uh interaction between 855 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,030 various uh countries . 856 00:40:20,410 --> 00:40:23,530 And I don't see that with respect to us . 857 00:40:24,010 --> 00:40:27,790 What is the policy of this kind of mil 858 00:40:27,790 --> 00:40:30,880 to mil engagement by our Defense 859 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,820 Department ? Thank 860 00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:36,876 you , senator . I will just tell you 861 00:40:36,876 --> 00:40:39,098 that one of the strengths of the United 862 00:40:39,098 --> 00:40:42,840 States of America is that we have a lot 863 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,540 of allies and partners who want to work 864 00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:49,520 with us . Uh and we uh 865 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:53,321 we will be successful in the future . 866 00:40:53,321 --> 00:40:55,488 And one of the ways that's gonna , one 867 00:40:55,488 --> 00:40:57,654 of the means it's going to create that 868 00:40:57,654 --> 00:40:59,877 success is uh you know , leveraging the 869 00:40:59,877 --> 00:41:02,430 capacity and capability of our allies . 870 00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:06,040 Uh as I pointed out earlier , are my 871 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,800 first trip overseas . Was was out to 872 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,060 the region in the in the pacific region 873 00:41:11,060 --> 00:41:13,520 where I I met with our allies in in 874 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,400 Japan and South Korea uh and uh 875 00:41:17,410 --> 00:41:20,720 and further uh traveled to India to 876 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,250 meet with partner with our partner 877 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:27,030 there . And uh uh just as 878 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,330 just as recent as 879 00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:34,990 two nights ago , I was on a on 880 00:41:34,990 --> 00:41:38,490 a uh in a conference with Asean nations 881 00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:41,450 uh and uh and exchanging ideas about 882 00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:43,793 about how we could better work together . 883 00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:45,870 What I've done with the china task 884 00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:49,240 force is is focused our efforts a bit 885 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:51,860 more that in a way that will create 886 00:41:51,870 --> 00:41:54,720 opportunities for us to uh to better 887 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,480 partner with allies and and uh and 888 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,250 partners in the region because I think 889 00:42:00,250 --> 00:42:02,417 that's really , really important . But 890 00:42:02,417 --> 00:42:04,510 to answer your question , we've done 891 00:42:04,510 --> 00:42:07,350 quite a bit , but we will do a lot more 892 00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:09,350 because I think this is very , very 893 00:42:09,350 --> 00:42:12,400 important . Senator could uh please are 894 00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:14,299 are opaque . Um Commander Admiral 895 00:42:14,299 --> 00:42:17,450 Casino uh versus army Navy Air Force 896 00:42:17,460 --> 00:42:19,930 marines to include joint staff . We 897 00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:22,041 interact with our allies and partners 898 00:42:22,041 --> 00:42:24,041 in the pacific on a routine basis . 899 00:42:24,041 --> 00:42:26,041 Yeah , I think your question may be 900 00:42:26,041 --> 00:42:27,708 directed about china , though 901 00:42:27,708 --> 00:42:29,874 specifically china , uh and that is an 902 00:42:29,874 --> 00:42:32,097 issue and we need to improve our mil to 903 00:42:32,097 --> 00:42:35,610 mil relationship with china in order to 904 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,689 will be able to deescalate during 905 00:42:37,689 --> 00:42:39,689 crisis and to understand each other 906 00:42:39,689 --> 00:42:41,300 better . I routinely call my 907 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:43,411 counterpart , but we are not doing it 908 00:42:43,411 --> 00:42:45,522 at echelon and we need to improve the 909 00:42:45,522 --> 00:42:48,270 speed at which we can communicate . So 910 00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:50,330 it's pushed to talk on up or the 911 00:42:50,330 --> 00:42:52,552 secretary can pick the phone up , We're 912 00:42:52,552 --> 00:42:54,441 working through that . We want to 913 00:42:54,441 --> 00:42:56,552 improve those systems . Uh but you're 914 00:42:56,552 --> 00:42:56,510 hitting a very important point that 915 00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:59,240 will keep us uh and prevent any sort of 916 00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:01,296 great power conflict in the years to 917 00:43:01,296 --> 00:43:03,518 come . Those systems do need to get set 918 00:43:03,518 --> 00:43:06,210 up . General , thank you very much for 919 00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:09,310 that . It's very much appreciated and I 920 00:43:09,310 --> 00:43:12,160 think you're 100% on the right track . 921 00:43:12,170 --> 00:43:16,100 So thank you . Um General Milley 922 00:43:16,270 --> 00:43:18,650 recent reporting claims that at least 923 00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:22,350 1900 U . S . Military firearms were 924 00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:25,820 lost or stolen during the past decade . 925 00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:28,560 They say mostly from the army 926 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:31,750 explosives have also gone missing . The 927 00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:34,520 reporting also says that the pentagon 928 00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:37,430 has not been transparent about this . 929 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,840 Um , California authorities recently 930 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,090 found a stolen military assault rifle 931 00:43:44,090 --> 00:43:46,910 in Fresno that was stolen eight years 932 00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:50,810 prior from Fort Irwin In 2018 . A 933 00:43:50,810 --> 00:43:53,320 government accountability office report 934 00:43:53,410 --> 00:43:56,430 found shortcomings in securing weapons . 935 00:43:56,460 --> 00:43:58,860 So I would just like to ask you to 936 00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:02,120 briefly outline what is being done 937 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,540 today to see that there there are no 938 00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:07,060 problems like this and that weapons are 939 00:44:07,060 --> 00:44:09,820 well secured . Thanks Senator for the 940 00:44:09,820 --> 00:44:13,380 question . 1st , we the Department of 941 00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:15,630 Defense and I can tell you everyone in 942 00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:17,870 the military were in a uniform from 943 00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:20,037 company commander platoon starting all 944 00:44:20,037 --> 00:44:22,800 the way up to myself . We take the 945 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,810 security of weapons extraordinarily 946 00:44:24,820 --> 00:44:26,900 seriously . We've got an order of 947 00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:29,100 magnitude of about Call it somewhere 948 00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,010 around three million or so small arms . 949 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:34,446 I'm not talking big ticket items and 950 00:44:34,446 --> 00:44:36,668 aircraft carriers have 35 . I'm talking 951 00:44:36,668 --> 00:44:38,668 small arms . What you're mentioning 952 00:44:38,668 --> 00:44:40,890 about rifles , machine guns , pistols , 953 00:44:40,890 --> 00:44:43,057 rocket launches . The things that were 954 00:44:43,057 --> 00:44:45,168 mentioned in these reports , I'm I've 955 00:44:45,168 --> 00:44:47,279 asked each of the services to go back 956 00:44:47,279 --> 00:44:49,390 and let's get the numbers . Let's get 957 00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:51,446 the reports over to you to make sure 958 00:44:51,446 --> 00:44:53,390 that we can level set as to what's 959 00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:55,279 correct and incorrect . I saw the 960 00:44:55,279 --> 00:44:57,334 reports as well in the media . I was 961 00:44:57,334 --> 00:44:59,334 frankly shocked by the numbers that 962 00:44:59,334 --> 00:45:01,557 were in there . The reports I have from 963 00:45:01,557 --> 00:45:03,760 the services as of this morning are 964 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,950 significantly less numbers than are 965 00:45:05,950 --> 00:45:08,061 reported in the media . That's not to 966 00:45:08,061 --> 00:45:10,172 say it zero , but it's much less so I 967 00:45:10,172 --> 00:45:12,394 need to square the balance here . I owe 968 00:45:12,394 --> 00:45:14,460 you a firm answer as to what's being 969 00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:16,682 done though I can assure you that every 970 00:45:16,682 --> 00:45:18,904 company commander , every company grade 971 00:45:18,904 --> 00:45:21,016 officer out there that's in charge of 972 00:45:21,016 --> 00:45:23,127 an organization every single month is 973 00:45:23,127 --> 00:45:25,127 doing a 10% inventory on their arms 974 00:45:25,127 --> 00:45:27,182 room and they are required by law by 975 00:45:27,182 --> 00:45:29,240 policy by regulation to inventory in 976 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,184 account for all of those weapons . 977 00:45:31,184 --> 00:45:32,907 Anything lethal law to include 978 00:45:32,907 --> 00:45:34,740 explosives . If anything becomes 979 00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:36,629 missing or unaccounted for in any 980 00:45:36,629 --> 00:45:38,851 manner , shape or form , there's a full 981 00:45:38,851 --> 00:45:41,073 fledged investigation by C . I . D . As 982 00:45:41,073 --> 00:45:43,296 well as unit chains of command . And if 983 00:45:43,296 --> 00:45:45,462 anyone has found negligent at all , uh 984 00:45:45,462 --> 00:45:44,940 they are relieved of your command or 985 00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:46,996 punished in some of the way . And if 986 00:45:46,996 --> 00:45:48,884 there's a criminal involved , for 987 00:45:48,884 --> 00:45:50,940 example , you mentioned for Irwin uh 988 00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:53,162 there were there were people arrested , 989 00:45:53,162 --> 00:45:55,329 prosecuted and in currently in jail as 990 00:45:55,329 --> 00:45:57,496 a result of some of those weapons That 991 00:45:57,496 --> 00:45:59,607 you're talking about with the AK 47 . 992 00:45:59,607 --> 00:45:59,530 So everything is rigorously 993 00:45:59,530 --> 00:46:01,720 investigated . There are weapons that 994 00:46:01,730 --> 00:46:04,330 we can't account for . But I can assure 995 00:46:04,330 --> 00:46:06,330 you that we take it extraordinarily 996 00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:08,490 seriously . And I owe you the exact 997 00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:10,712 numbers that we're getting and I'll get 998 00:46:10,712 --> 00:46:12,823 you those very , very quickly . Thank 999 00:46:12,823 --> 00:46:14,768 you . Thanks General . You're very 1000 00:46:14,768 --> 00:46:16,823 direct and honest answer . It's much 1001 00:46:16,823 --> 00:46:18,823 appreciated . Thank you . Thank you 1002 00:46:18,823 --> 00:46:21,046 Senator Feinstein and Senator Collins . 1003 00:46:21,046 --> 00:46:23,490 Thank you 1st . Welcome Secretary 1004 00:46:23,490 --> 00:46:25,930 Austin and General Milley . We 1005 00:46:25,930 --> 00:46:29,390 appreciate your service . Secretary 1006 00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:32,790 Austin . The administration's budget 1007 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,480 prioritises national security and 1008 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,990 homeland security spending last 1009 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,000 relative to seemingly every other area 1010 00:46:44,010 --> 00:46:47,750 of the budget . That strikes me as not 1011 00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:50,350 only unwise but dangerous , 1012 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,150 particularly when we look at what the 1013 00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:56,430 chinese are doing . Mr 1014 00:46:56,430 --> 00:46:59,200 Secretary . One of the biggest mistakes 1015 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,360 in the budget From my perspective is 1016 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,070 the decision to cut a D . D . G . From 1017 00:47:05,070 --> 00:47:07,750 the current multi year procurement 1018 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:11,060 contract . This reflects a broader 1019 00:47:11,060 --> 00:47:14,060 trend of not making the investments 1020 00:47:14,060 --> 00:47:17,960 necessary to build anywhere close to 1021 00:47:17,970 --> 00:47:21,560 a 355 ship Navy that 1022 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,250 multiple studies have confirmed 1023 00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:28,710 is needed , on the other hand . 1024 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,650 now has the world's largest navy Has 1025 00:47:32,650 --> 00:47:35,920 about 60 more shifts in our own fleet 1026 00:47:35,930 --> 00:47:39,540 and it has surpassed our own 1027 00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:42,210 355 ship goal . 1028 00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:47,480 The Office of Naval Intelligence 1029 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,510 projects , that china will have 400 1030 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,400 battles for shifts by the year 2025 1031 00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:57,740 D . D . G . S are the workhorse of the 1032 00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:00,840 Navy and the flight threes will be the 1033 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,370 most capable ships in the world . And I 1034 00:48:04,370 --> 00:48:07,000 want to stress that these are shifts in 1035 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,010 production right now . They're not 1036 00:48:09,020 --> 00:48:12,160 conceptual ideas or designs for a 1037 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,220 future ship . We need more 1038 00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:19,180 DDgs patrolling the pacific , not fewer . 1039 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:21,570 And it's surely significant that the 1040 00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:24,960 Navy has listed as its number 1041 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,700 one unfunded priority . 1042 00:48:28,570 --> 00:48:31,640 The restoration of funding for the 1043 00:48:31,650 --> 00:48:35,530 missing . DDG my question is this , 1044 00:48:35,530 --> 00:48:37,730 will you work with the committee to 1045 00:48:37,740 --> 00:48:41,480 find ways to restore that D . D . 1046 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,810 G . That has been cut And to meet the 1047 00:48:44,810 --> 00:48:48,000 Navy's # one unfunded priority ? 1048 00:48:49,570 --> 00:48:53,000 Uh Senator . You have my um 1049 00:48:53,470 --> 00:48:55,581 my commitment that I will continue to 1050 00:48:55,581 --> 00:48:57,248 work with the committee to do 1051 00:48:57,248 --> 00:49:00,500 everything we can to resource our Navy . 1052 00:49:00,970 --> 00:49:03,920 Uh We have the most powerful , we have 1053 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,530 the dominant naval force on the face of 1054 00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:09,850 the planet . Uh It has been so in the 1055 00:49:09,850 --> 00:49:12,180 past , it is , it is so now it will 1056 00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:14,330 remain so going forward . And I 1057 00:49:14,330 --> 00:49:16,580 absolutely agree with you that 355 1058 00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:18,900 ships is a good goal to to shoot for . 1059 00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:23,190 And , and I want to make sure that that 1060 00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:26,040 we have uh , you know , the right mix 1061 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,670 of capabilities if size matters , but 1062 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,630 capabilities also matter . And uh and 1063 00:49:31,630 --> 00:49:33,852 so we're going to continue to work with 1064 00:49:33,852 --> 00:49:35,852 the Navy and with this committee to 1065 00:49:35,852 --> 00:49:38,020 make sure that we have the right right 1066 00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:40,560 capabilities in place . And our plan is 1067 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,520 to resource that uh that DDG in 1068 00:49:44,530 --> 00:49:48,510 fiscal year 23 . Well , an 1069 00:49:48,510 --> 00:49:51,960 admiral once told me that quantity has 1070 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,850 a quality all of its own . That's 1071 00:49:54,850 --> 00:49:57,950 always stuck with me . And I'm also 1072 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,090 very concerned about the impact on our 1073 00:50:01,090 --> 00:50:04,500 industrial base . We only have two 1074 00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:07,670 yards that build a large surface 1075 00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:10,820 combatants And bath arm works in Maine , 1076 00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:14,260 it's hired 3000 additional shipbuilders 1077 00:50:14,260 --> 00:50:18,070 since 2018 . It's working quickly to 1078 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,770 improve its productivity to reach two 1079 00:50:20,770 --> 00:50:24,070 shifts per year , build rate . And it 1080 00:50:24,070 --> 00:50:26,080 has a hot production line that's 1081 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,910 getting more efficient by the day . But 1082 00:50:28,910 --> 00:50:32,840 if this budget passes , b I w 1083 00:50:32,850 --> 00:50:36,370 is rushing toward a workload cliff , 1084 00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:39,260 that will lead to loss of judge jobs , 1085 00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:42,430 reverse these projects , activity gains 1086 00:50:42,430 --> 00:50:45,660 and weaken the industrial base . So 1087 00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:47,920 that's the other point that I would ask 1088 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,587 that that you think about the 1089 00:50:49,587 --> 00:50:53,180 importance of that productivity just 1090 00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:56,980 very quickly for uh for General Milley , 1091 00:50:57,660 --> 00:51:00,090 I described to you my very first trip 1092 00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:03,310 to Afghanistan when I met in an army , 1093 00:51:03,570 --> 00:51:07,550 an army tent rather with the other 1094 00:51:07,550 --> 00:51:10,050 members of the caudal . When Hamid 1095 00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:13,700 Karzai had been smuggled back into the 1096 00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:15,920 country . And we were allowed each , 1097 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,640 only one question of him . And my 1098 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,240 question was , will you get girls 1099 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:25,120 back into schools , will you reverse 1100 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,460 what the taliban has done ? I'm very 1101 00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:31,420 concerned that Afghanistan is going to 1102 00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:34,410 fall to the taliban and that we once 1103 00:51:34,410 --> 00:51:36,410 again , we'll see the imposition of 1104 00:51:36,410 --> 00:51:39,980 Sharia law and that girls and women 1105 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,770 will not be allowed to pursue an 1106 00:51:43,770 --> 00:51:46,230 education or participate fully in 1107 00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:48,970 society . Senator Shaheen and I've 1108 00:51:48,970 --> 00:51:52,390 worked very hard about this issue and 1109 00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:54,446 are very concerned . Do you have any 1110 00:51:54,446 --> 00:51:56,480 comments in that area ? 1111 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,470 Well , um I would tell you this , uh 1112 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,450 Senator , your concern is a valid 1113 00:52:03,450 --> 00:52:05,660 concern . There's a range of outcomes 1114 00:52:05,660 --> 00:52:08,480 here and without going into classified 1115 00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:11,180 probabilities here of these outcomes , 1116 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,150 there are a wide range of outcomes that 1117 00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:16,390 we've looked at and we assess that 1118 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,940 based on risk right now , the 1119 00:52:18,940 --> 00:52:21,720 government of Afghanistan is holding 1120 00:52:21,730 --> 00:52:24,360 and they have approximately About a 1121 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,790 325-350,000 person , security force , 1122 00:52:27,790 --> 00:52:29,980 army and police forces . There is 1123 00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:32,110 ongoing violence as we know , and we 1124 00:52:32,110 --> 00:52:34,610 are drawing down our force . Um now the 1125 00:52:34,610 --> 00:52:36,940 question remains , what will happen in 1126 00:52:36,940 --> 00:52:39,280 the future ? Will that military 1127 00:52:39,290 --> 00:52:41,234 disintegrate ? Will the government 1128 00:52:41,234 --> 00:52:43,346 collapse ? Will the Taliban come in ? 1129 00:52:43,346 --> 00:52:45,290 If the answer to that ? Worst case 1130 00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:47,290 scenario is yes , then I think your 1131 00:52:47,290 --> 00:52:49,457 concern is a very valid concern . What 1132 00:52:49,457 --> 00:52:51,623 will happen to women and girls and not 1133 00:52:51,623 --> 00:52:53,846 only that , but many , many others , uh 1134 00:52:53,846 --> 00:52:53,320 and they're probably going to be at 1135 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,431 risk . But I would also tell you that 1136 00:52:55,431 --> 00:52:57,710 is not a certain outcome . Um There are 1137 00:52:57,710 --> 00:53:00,520 many other outcomes that are possible , 1138 00:53:00,530 --> 00:53:02,586 uh and we're going to work to try to 1139 00:53:02,586 --> 00:53:04,474 have those outcomes achieved , as 1140 00:53:04,474 --> 00:53:06,474 opposed to the worst case outcome . 1141 00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:08,641 This is not a done deal yet . It's the 1142 00:53:08,641 --> 00:53:10,780 president's intent to keep an embassy 1143 00:53:10,780 --> 00:53:13,370 open to keep our security forces around 1144 00:53:13,370 --> 00:53:15,370 the embassy and to continue to work 1145 00:53:15,370 --> 00:53:17,537 with the Afghan government to continue 1146 00:53:17,537 --> 00:53:20,110 to fund the Afghan security forces and 1147 00:53:20,110 --> 00:53:22,970 to keep that situation from devolving 1148 00:53:22,980 --> 00:53:25,091 into the worst case . And that's what 1149 00:53:25,091 --> 00:53:27,147 we're planning on . And that's where 1150 00:53:27,147 --> 00:53:29,147 we're working toward . There are no 1151 00:53:29,147 --> 00:53:31,313 guarantees in any of this . Your right 1152 00:53:31,313 --> 00:53:31,090 to bring it up as a concern . And we're 1153 00:53:31,090 --> 00:53:33,034 working to fulfill their concern . 1154 00:53:33,034 --> 00:53:35,201 Thank you , senator . I would just add 1155 00:53:35,201 --> 00:53:37,423 on by saying , we really appreciate the 1156 00:53:37,423 --> 00:53:39,479 bipartisan support that we've gotten 1157 00:53:39,479 --> 00:53:41,830 for over the years for the women and uh , 1158 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,896 and girls in Afghanistan . And we're 1159 00:53:43,896 --> 00:53:46,118 going to do everything within our power 1160 00:53:46,118 --> 00:53:48,710 as General Milley is as uh indicated to 1161 00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:50,880 work through the embassy to carry 1162 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,158 forward with as much as this as we can . 1163 00:53:53,250 --> 00:53:55,880 Thank you . Mhm . Mhm . 1164 00:53:57,550 --> 00:53:59,910 Thanks marriage . Mr Chairman . Thank 1165 00:53:59,910 --> 00:54:02,021 you . Mr Secretary and General Milley 1166 00:54:02,021 --> 00:54:05,320 for joining us . Um At least two of the 1167 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,890 pillars of our national defence , our 1168 00:54:07,890 --> 00:54:10,660 civilian control of the military and 1169 00:54:10,660 --> 00:54:14,340 our ambition gold demand that those who 1170 00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:16,380 serve in the military military be 1171 00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:18,900 nonpartisan and above politics . 1172 00:54:19,340 --> 00:54:21,610 America is bitterly divided on 1173 00:54:21,610 --> 00:54:23,730 political questions . What are you 1174 00:54:23,730 --> 00:54:25,952 doing to make certain that our military 1175 00:54:25,952 --> 00:54:28,230 is not infected with this partisanship ? 1176 00:54:29,740 --> 00:54:32,320 Thank you senator . It is this is a 1177 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,810 very , very important issue for me . 1178 00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:37,960 And also I would add General Milley , 1179 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,720 the military has been a political in 1180 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,430 the past . It is a political now and it 1181 00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:45,430 will be a political going forward . 1182 00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:48,460 There is no place for for for politics 1183 00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:51,910 in in in our military . I fully expect 1184 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,930 that , you know , all of our troops 1185 00:54:53,930 --> 00:54:55,870 will have the opportunity to 1186 00:54:55,870 --> 00:54:57,981 participate in the , in the political 1187 00:54:57,981 --> 00:55:01,350 process . But the military will , we're 1188 00:55:01,350 --> 00:55:03,572 gonna do everything we can to make sure 1189 00:55:03,572 --> 00:55:05,794 that the military remains a political , 1190 00:55:05,794 --> 00:55:08,500 I can assure you as well on the part of 1191 00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:11,080 myself and the Joint Chiefs in the 1192 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,170 entire uniform branches that that is we 1193 00:55:14,170 --> 00:55:15,948 we understand some extra of the 1194 00:55:15,948 --> 00:55:18,114 military . We are committed to being a 1195 00:55:18,114 --> 00:55:20,337 political military and we will give our 1196 00:55:20,337 --> 00:55:22,559 dying breath to defend the constitution 1197 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,781 of the United States of America . Thank 1198 00:55:24,781 --> 00:55:26,892 you . A critic may take a look at our 1199 00:55:26,892 --> 00:55:28,892 budget and say our national defense 1200 00:55:28,892 --> 00:55:30,837 budget continues to grow to record 1201 00:55:30,837 --> 00:55:32,837 numbers even though we may retrench 1202 00:55:32,837 --> 00:55:34,900 from time to time . But the real 1203 00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:37,150 threats may not be addressed by this 1204 00:55:37,150 --> 00:55:40,150 budget . It wasn't a hypersonic 1205 00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:43,200 aircraft or a missile or a stealthy 1206 00:55:43,210 --> 00:55:45,930 group of saboteurs who closed down the 1207 00:55:45,930 --> 00:55:48,210 oil pipeline , the colonial oil 1208 00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:50,330 pipeline and really disrupted the 1209 00:55:50,330 --> 00:55:52,700 american economy and other 1210 00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:54,766 vulnerabilities which were obviously 1211 00:55:54,766 --> 00:55:56,380 aware of or in the area of 1212 00:55:56,380 --> 00:55:59,570 cybersecurity . Uh what is our military 1213 00:55:59,570 --> 00:56:02,340 doing to compliment any other agency 1214 00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:06,110 efforts in that regard ? Well , 1215 00:56:06,110 --> 00:56:08,820 Senator , the military , uh as you've 1216 00:56:08,830 --> 00:56:11,640 indicated just now , is uh is one 1217 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,840 element of a larger government effort 1218 00:56:14,850 --> 00:56:17,500 to ensure that we can protect our 1219 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:21,450 networks . Uh uh we 1220 00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:24,470 have the ability to engage 1221 00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:27,390 adversaries , uh kind of a forward 1222 00:56:27,390 --> 00:56:30,410 manner at the source of the of the of 1223 00:56:30,410 --> 00:56:32,577 the mischief , and we have the ability 1224 00:56:32,577 --> 00:56:36,190 to to sustain contact with with 1225 00:56:36,190 --> 00:56:38,400 potential adversaries . So we're doing 1226 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,470 two things , protecting three things 1227 00:56:41,470 --> 00:56:45,120 protecting our bot networks , adding 1228 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,650 to the overall effort that uh 1229 00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:52,450 that the the government has in terms of 1230 00:56:52,460 --> 00:56:55,540 uh defense against cyber attacks and 1231 00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:57,762 also remaining engaged with adversaries 1232 00:56:57,762 --> 00:57:00,990 uh forward deployed and 1233 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,430 center on the military side , as you 1234 00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:06,890 know , we have cyber com um and each of 1235 00:57:06,890 --> 00:57:09,190 the service branches has cyber 1236 00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:11,190 organizations inside it . We've got 1237 00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:12,857 defensive and offensive cyber 1238 00:57:12,857 --> 00:57:14,579 protection teams . We are very 1239 00:57:14,579 --> 00:57:16,746 aggressive not to be discussed in open 1240 00:57:16,746 --> 00:57:18,912 testimony , but we are very aggressive 1241 00:57:18,912 --> 00:57:20,746 offensively were needed and when 1242 00:57:20,746 --> 00:57:22,912 directed . Uh and we are continuing to 1243 00:57:22,912 --> 00:57:25,079 build our defensive capabilities . The 1244 00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:27,800 domain of cyber as a domain of war . Uh 1245 00:57:27,810 --> 00:57:29,532 the domain of competition with 1246 00:57:29,532 --> 00:57:31,643 adversary nations is a relatively new 1247 00:57:31,643 --> 00:57:33,477 domain and we are building those 1248 00:57:33,477 --> 00:57:35,390 capabilities . We have the most 1249 00:57:35,390 --> 00:57:37,501 significant cyber capabilities in the 1250 00:57:37,501 --> 00:57:39,668 world . That doesn't mean it's perfect 1251 00:57:39,668 --> 00:57:41,890 and we witnessed what happened with the 1252 00:57:41,890 --> 00:57:43,950 hackers and colonial pipeline And we 1253 00:57:43,950 --> 00:57:46,270 have to do much much more . This budget 1254 00:57:46,270 --> 00:57:49,380 puts about I think 2.3 or 2.4 billion 1255 00:57:49,390 --> 00:57:51,430 uh into increasing our cyber 1256 00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:53,263 capabilities just in the uniform 1257 00:57:53,263 --> 00:57:55,486 branches . But there is a lot more work 1258 00:57:55,486 --> 00:57:57,652 to do . There's no question about it . 1259 00:57:57,652 --> 00:57:59,819 Uh and this is an area in which we are 1260 00:57:59,819 --> 00:58:01,930 vulnerable and we need to continue to 1261 00:58:01,930 --> 00:58:03,930 invest . Someone may look at a $750 1262 00:58:03,930 --> 00:58:05,986 billion dollar budget for a national 1263 00:58:05,986 --> 00:58:09,720 defense and question whether we are 1264 00:58:09,730 --> 00:58:12,760 wasting any money in the spending of 1265 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,810 that amount . My guess is we are even 1266 00:58:15,810 --> 00:58:17,977 with the best of efforts on our part , 1267 00:58:19,020 --> 00:58:21,187 both of you have extensive backgrounds 1268 00:58:21,187 --> 00:58:23,390 and careers in the military , what 1269 00:58:23,390 --> 00:58:25,570 would you identify as the largest 1270 00:58:25,580 --> 00:58:27,800 essential source of waste in our 1271 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,856 federal federal military spending at 1272 00:58:29,856 --> 00:58:30,856 this point , 1273 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,560 one of the things that makes uh that is 1274 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,280 a challenge for Senate senator is to be 1275 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,502 able to invest in the capabilities that 1276 00:58:43,502 --> 00:58:45,613 we know that we need for the future . 1277 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,480 Uh and and as we do that to 1278 00:58:49,490 --> 00:58:52,910 divest capabilities that won't be 1279 00:58:52,910 --> 00:58:56,360 relevant going forward . And so as we 1280 00:58:56,370 --> 00:58:58,810 as we hang on to systems that we know 1281 00:58:58,810 --> 00:59:01,380 will not be relevant in the future . I 1282 00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:03,490 think that creates drag on on the 1283 00:59:03,490 --> 00:59:05,840 overall budget . I think that uh that 1284 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,230 makes it more complicated for us . And 1285 00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:11,750 so I would ask you and the committee to 1286 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,430 help as much as you can in terms of 1287 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,551 those things that we've worked with , 1288 00:59:16,551 --> 00:59:19,180 the services to identify that that we 1289 00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:21,840 that won't be relevant in the next 1290 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,900 fight , help us to be able to divest of 1291 00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:27,178 some of those systems . MR . Secretary . 1292 00:59:27,178 --> 00:59:29,178 That was a very tactful answer at a 1293 00:59:29,178 --> 00:59:31,400 congressional hearing . Uh I would just 1294 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,660 add uh that I think our procurement 1295 00:59:33,660 --> 00:59:36,090 process in this country is in desperate 1296 00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:38,620 need of reform . We're wasting too much 1297 00:59:38,620 --> 00:59:40,560 time and too much money in our 1298 00:59:40,570 --> 00:59:42,440 procurement process and the 1299 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,440 responsibility of changing it is in 1300 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,662 your hands and ours as well . Thank you 1301 00:59:46,662 --> 00:59:48,520 both . Yeah . 1302 00:59:51,020 --> 00:59:53,840 Mhm . Thank you . Mr Chairman 1303 00:59:54,620 --> 00:59:56,342 gentlemen , thank you for your 1304 00:59:56,342 --> 00:59:58,564 leadership , greatly appreciate it . MR 1305 00:59:58,564 --> 01:00:00,231 Secretary , I appreciated the 1306 01:00:00,231 --> 01:00:01,898 opportunity that we had for a 1307 01:00:01,898 --> 01:00:04,120 discussion on some arctic related 1308 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,010 matters . Just last week , I I 1309 01:00:07,010 --> 01:00:10,490 expressed my my appreciation um for the 1310 01:00:10,490 --> 01:00:13,300 department's initiative in this focus 1311 01:00:13,310 --> 01:00:17,140 on the region . Um We have seen 1312 01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:20,010 the service level arctic strategies 1313 01:00:20,010 --> 01:00:22,580 released over the last year or so , 1314 01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:24,710 those have been good . Uh Actually 1315 01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:27,280 exceptional , these strategies really 1316 01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:29,770 give the attention to this region that 1317 01:00:29,770 --> 01:00:32,800 I think we recognize needs to be a 1318 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,744 priority , at least . It gives the 1319 01:00:34,744 --> 01:00:36,744 attention in writing . I was hoping 1320 01:00:36,744 --> 01:00:38,800 that we would see the implementation 1321 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,250 and resources of these strategies 1322 01:00:41,260 --> 01:00:44,650 reflected better in this budget request . 1323 01:00:44,660 --> 01:00:47,200 Um as I look at it , it seems like we 1324 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,560 we've missed the mark a bit here . I 1325 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,360 think we recognize we're seeing 1326 01:00:52,370 --> 01:00:56,310 regional competition . Uh we are we are 1327 01:00:56,310 --> 01:00:58,670 seeing a level of activity in the 1328 01:00:58,670 --> 01:01:01,670 region from those that who would have 1329 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,940 ever thought that uh the , the interest 1330 01:01:04,940 --> 01:01:07,230 would be coming from from china , that 1331 01:01:07,230 --> 01:01:09,341 china would be re sourcing whether it 1332 01:01:09,341 --> 01:01:12,790 is , it is icebreakers training with 1333 01:01:12,790 --> 01:01:15,240 the Russians . We know we can see what 1334 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,540 is happening up there . Um Senator 1335 01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:21,930 Sullivan had an opportunity earlier uh 1336 01:01:21,940 --> 01:01:24,440 this week or last week , I believe , to 1337 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,551 question General Van Herck on how the 1338 01:01:26,551 --> 01:01:29,590 services could use what was included in 1339 01:01:29,590 --> 01:01:31,812 this year's budget request to implement 1340 01:01:31,812 --> 01:01:34,010 their respective arctic strategy . And 1341 01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:36,232 his his response was a little less than 1342 01:01:36,232 --> 01:01:38,200 encouraging . He said , I see an 1343 01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:40,540 inching along , we didn't move the ball 1344 01:01:40,540 --> 01:01:42,596 very far down the field this year in 1345 01:01:42,596 --> 01:01:45,370 the budget with regards to resources in 1346 01:01:45,380 --> 01:01:47,920 the arctic . So the question to you 1347 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,420 this morning is whether you believe we 1348 01:01:50,420 --> 01:01:54,230 are we do have adequate funding for the 1349 01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:57,360 arctic strategies in the budget . What 1350 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,440 can we do to use General Van hurts 1351 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,190 words to move the ball forward in the 1352 01:02:04,190 --> 01:02:06,820 arctic in a more responsive manner . 1353 01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:11,467 Well , what we can do , first of all , 1354 01:02:11,467 --> 01:02:13,360 thank you for your support of our 1355 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,920 efforts in the arctic senator . They 1356 01:02:15,930 --> 01:02:19,160 they've been uh tremendous over the 1357 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,460 years and uh certainly they've helped 1358 01:02:21,460 --> 01:02:25,020 us , you've helped us in a major way . 1359 01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:28,730 Uh as you probably know , we're in the 1360 01:02:28,740 --> 01:02:31,730 process of developing a national 1361 01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:34,730 Defense strategy . My goal is to make 1362 01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:37,930 sure that our efforts in the arctic 1363 01:02:37,940 --> 01:02:39,990 requirements in the arctic are 1364 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,330 reflected in that new national Defense 1365 01:02:42,330 --> 01:02:45,470 strategy . And so as we do that , it 1366 01:02:45,470 --> 01:02:47,248 will help us to better link our 1367 01:02:47,248 --> 01:02:50,220 resources to our strategy going forward . 1368 01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:53,640 And uh and again , uh there is 1369 01:02:53,650 --> 01:02:57,340 some capability there now , 1370 01:02:57,350 --> 01:02:59,580 but I agree with you . We need to we 1371 01:02:59,580 --> 01:03:01,870 need to better resource our arctic 1372 01:03:01,870 --> 01:03:04,260 efforts in the future . Well , as I've 1373 01:03:04,270 --> 01:03:06,170 reminded folks when I start any 1374 01:03:06,170 --> 01:03:09,670 conversation , um right now the arctic 1375 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,190 is not a hot spot and I think we all 1376 01:03:12,190 --> 01:03:14,350 would agree we want to keep it from 1377 01:03:14,350 --> 01:03:18,270 becoming so and readiness is what what 1378 01:03:18,270 --> 01:03:20,690 we need to speak to . Uh I will also 1379 01:03:20,690 --> 01:03:22,660 want to raise the issue of mineral 1380 01:03:22,660 --> 01:03:25,390 security in the context of of National 1381 01:03:25,390 --> 01:03:27,730 Security . President biden's executive 1382 01:03:27,730 --> 01:03:29,660 order on America's supply chains 1383 01:03:29,660 --> 01:03:32,060 required the department to produce a 1384 01:03:32,060 --> 01:03:34,090 report identifying the risks in the 1385 01:03:34,090 --> 01:03:37,120 supply chain for critical minerals . Um 1386 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,570 Your report states that the United 1387 01:03:40,570 --> 01:03:42,737 States has always relied on imports of 1388 01:03:42,737 --> 01:03:44,960 strategic critical minerals to meet its 1389 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,016 public and private sector needs . We 1390 01:03:47,016 --> 01:03:49,200 recognize that we certainly have a 1391 01:03:49,210 --> 01:03:51,377 strong domestic supplies in Alaska and 1392 01:03:51,377 --> 01:03:54,320 elsewhere around the country . So 1393 01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:58,540 the question that some might ask 1394 01:03:58,540 --> 01:04:01,670 is why is this important ? From a 1395 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,990 national security perspective , what 1396 01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:06,550 are the consequences if we fail to 1397 01:04:06,550 --> 01:04:09,300 create a domestic supply chain ? 1398 01:04:09,310 --> 01:04:12,280 Because we can continue to rely on 1399 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,570 resources from others ? I think we 1400 01:04:14,570 --> 01:04:18,390 recognize that right now , um we rely 1401 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,520 more heavily on china for these these 1402 01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:23,840 critical minerals , particularly in the 1403 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,300 area of Rarer . And that creates a 1404 01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:28,411 vulnerability . It takes us back to a 1405 01:04:28,411 --> 01:04:30,356 time in a place where we were very 1406 01:04:30,356 --> 01:04:33,750 vulnerable , very reliant on others for 1407 01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:36,500 for oil where we're kind of heading in 1408 01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:38,500 that direction a little bit , we're 1409 01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:41,000 actually importing more oil from Russia 1410 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,450 right now than we are from Alaska . So 1411 01:04:43,450 --> 01:04:46,060 from a national security perspective , 1412 01:04:46,410 --> 01:04:49,130 if you could just speak to the 1413 01:04:49,130 --> 01:04:52,590 consequences if we fail to secure a 1414 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,860 critical mineral supply chain , I think 1415 01:04:54,860 --> 01:04:58,100 we've seen this play out . Mhm . 1416 01:04:59,290 --> 01:05:03,050 In recent past here , it's it's a it's 1417 01:05:03,050 --> 01:05:06,920 a a risk to our national security 1418 01:05:06,990 --> 01:05:10,420 if we don't have a secure supply chains . 1419 01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:14,630 And so What we're doing 1420 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,280 is there's $341 million dollars in this 1421 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,180 budget that we've set aside to help us 1422 01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:24,880 partner with uh with us companies , 1423 01:05:24,890 --> 01:05:27,970 and and and part of that is designed to 1424 01:05:27,970 --> 01:05:31,810 help us uh begin to uh to establish our 1425 01:05:31,810 --> 01:05:33,870 own capabilities for rare earth 1426 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,800 elements that can help us to 1427 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,060 maintain or create more secure supply 1428 01:05:41,060 --> 01:05:43,900 chains . But it is certainly a risk if 1429 01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:46,710 we don't have a secure supply chains . 1430 01:05:48,090 --> 01:05:50,312 Thank you . Mr . Chairman , thank you . 1431 01:05:50,312 --> 01:05:52,810 Senator Murkowski and Senator Tester , 1432 01:05:52,810 --> 01:05:56,010 the chair of the defense subcommittee . 1433 01:05:56,020 --> 01:05:59,190 Thank thank you . Chairman Leahy , and 1434 01:05:59,190 --> 01:06:01,134 thank you all for uh for what I've 1435 01:06:01,134 --> 01:06:03,360 heard so far . Certainly appreciate the 1436 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,510 answers you gave to Senator Shelby in 1437 01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:08,830 particular on his questions . Uh This 1438 01:06:08,830 --> 01:06:10,608 year's budget proposal includes 1439 01:06:10,608 --> 01:06:12,890 numerous requests to divest legacy 1440 01:06:12,890 --> 01:06:15,410 platforms all across the services For a 1441 01:06:15,410 --> 01:06:17,270 projected total of 28 billion in 1442 01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:20,940 savings in Fy 22 . I agree with you 1443 01:06:20,940 --> 01:06:23,107 that there are some old weapon systems 1444 01:06:23,107 --> 01:06:25,107 that don't have a place in our next 1445 01:06:25,107 --> 01:06:27,273 fight . And I've expressed this to you 1446 01:06:27,273 --> 01:06:29,600 before and I support that , but I also 1447 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,822 want to see the math and understand how 1448 01:06:31,822 --> 01:06:33,933 these divestments were selected . For 1449 01:06:33,933 --> 01:06:35,878 example . Uh I want to know if our 1450 01:06:35,878 --> 01:06:37,878 National Guard , which we all think 1451 01:06:37,878 --> 01:06:39,211 highly of , is taking a 1452 01:06:39,211 --> 01:06:41,267 disproportionate share of cuts as it 1453 01:06:41,267 --> 01:06:43,550 applies to legacy systems . So 1454 01:06:43,550 --> 01:06:45,550 Secretary Austin , when divestments 1455 01:06:45,550 --> 01:06:48,020 occur , it's impacts the resources 1456 01:06:48,020 --> 01:06:49,909 available to our National Guard , 1457 01:06:49,909 --> 01:06:52,131 potentially degrading force readiness . 1458 01:06:52,131 --> 01:06:53,964 So how are you balancing finding 1459 01:06:53,964 --> 01:06:56,650 savings to tomorrow's force with 1460 01:06:56,650 --> 01:06:59,290 potentially reduced capabilities today ? 1461 01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:05,530 Well , we certainly uh everything that 1462 01:07:05,530 --> 01:07:08,130 we do in terms of systems , we want to 1463 01:07:08,130 --> 01:07:09,963 make sure that our Guard has the 1464 01:07:09,963 --> 01:07:13,900 capability to uh uh two be 1465 01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:17,050 properly equipped . Uh It's the 1466 01:07:17,050 --> 01:07:19,272 chairman mentioned earlier , you know , 1467 01:07:19,272 --> 01:07:21,780 the guards not just doing domestic , uh , 1468 01:07:21,790 --> 01:07:23,901 they're not just involved in domestic 1469 01:07:23,901 --> 01:07:26,012 activities . We have them deployed in 1470 01:07:26,012 --> 01:07:28,234 the number of cases , uh they have gone 1471 01:07:28,234 --> 01:07:30,457 to war with us over and over again with 1472 01:07:30,457 --> 01:07:32,568 the active component . Uh and so they 1473 01:07:32,568 --> 01:07:34,901 need uh up to date modernized equipment . 1474 01:07:34,980 --> 01:07:37,147 And our goal is to make sure that they 1475 01:07:37,147 --> 01:07:40,710 have that . And so retiring a 1476 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,776 system that's no longer relevant for 1477 01:07:42,776 --> 01:07:45,880 the future does not impose necessarily 1478 01:07:45,890 --> 01:07:49,830 a tax or a cost or burden on our on 1479 01:07:49,830 --> 01:07:52,080 our National Guard . So , so I will 1480 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,969 direct this to General Mills just 1481 01:07:53,969 --> 01:07:56,191 simply because I want to see if his mix 1482 01:07:56,191 --> 01:08:00,030 working . So do I see this incorrectly 1483 01:08:00,030 --> 01:08:03,150 then that you guys don't believe that 1484 01:08:03,150 --> 01:08:06,480 the guard is taking , hey , uh , more 1485 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,110 of a cut uh , as it applies the legacy 1486 01:08:09,110 --> 01:08:12,440 than active duty . Yeah , I'll check 1487 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,780 the specific numbers , but I do not 1488 01:08:14,780 --> 01:08:16,947 have the impression that the guard has 1489 01:08:16,947 --> 01:08:18,947 taken a disproportionate cut of the 1490 01:08:18,947 --> 01:08:21,169 divestiture . But the real message here 1491 01:08:21,169 --> 01:08:23,336 though , I think for the committee and 1492 01:08:23,336 --> 01:08:26,080 for all of us is we must pivot to a 1493 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,490 future military force . And yes , there 1494 01:08:28,490 --> 01:08:31,030 are legacy so called legacy systems 1495 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,984 that are quite good . They're very 1496 01:08:32,984 --> 01:08:35,060 capable in today's world , but they 1497 01:08:35,070 --> 01:08:38,270 will likely not be as relevant In a 1498 01:08:38,270 --> 01:08:40,760 future fight . We must invest in some 1499 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,649 of these emerging technologies of 1500 01:08:42,649 --> 01:08:44,704 artificial intelligence , robotics , 1501 01:08:44,704 --> 01:08:46,970 hypersonic and so on . We must do that 1502 01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:49,130 now . We cannot invest in horses when 1503 01:08:49,130 --> 01:08:51,297 they're about to face machine guns and 1504 01:08:51,297 --> 01:08:53,690 tanks . Those mistakes were made 150 1505 01:08:53,690 --> 01:08:56,270 years ago . We can't do that . We must 1506 01:08:56,270 --> 01:08:58,510 keep pace with the threat environment 1507 01:08:58,510 --> 01:09:00,600 is ongoing . Thank you for that . I 1508 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,822 think it's an important message for all 1509 01:09:02,822 --> 01:09:04,878 of us to here and I think we need to 1510 01:09:04,878 --> 01:09:06,933 take it to heart . Um , I wanna talk 1511 01:09:06,933 --> 01:09:09,156 about multi year contracts for a little 1512 01:09:09,156 --> 01:09:11,267 bit . It does apply to something that 1513 01:09:11,267 --> 01:09:13,433 Senator Collins asked you about when I 1514 01:09:13,433 --> 01:09:15,267 was out of the room . But if the 1515 01:09:15,267 --> 01:09:17,489 Defense Department's request , Congress 1516 01:09:17,489 --> 01:09:19,711 approved a limited number of multi year 1517 01:09:19,711 --> 01:09:22,050 procurement contracts , these longer 1518 01:09:22,050 --> 01:09:23,939 contracts , our commitment to the 1519 01:09:23,939 --> 01:09:25,939 industry to buy a certain number of 1520 01:09:25,939 --> 01:09:28,161 ships , airplanes , missiles . Uh , and 1521 01:09:28,161 --> 01:09:30,328 with the idea that we're going to save 1522 01:09:30,328 --> 01:09:32,328 money and in the long haul and give 1523 01:09:32,328 --> 01:09:35,320 them certainty also , um , Secretary 1524 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,542 Austin , because multi year procurement 1525 01:09:37,542 --> 01:09:39,598 contracting authorities specifically 1526 01:09:39,598 --> 01:09:41,764 provided by Congress at the request of 1527 01:09:41,764 --> 01:09:44,050 the D . O . D . Does the department 1528 01:09:44,060 --> 01:09:46,060 have an obligation to fulfill multi 1529 01:09:46,060 --> 01:09:48,890 year procurement content procurement 1530 01:09:48,890 --> 01:09:51,400 contracts once we sign up for them . 1531 01:09:53,570 --> 01:09:56,240 Thank you . Senator . The department 1532 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,510 has an obligation to provide the 1533 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,790 best mixed of mix of capabilities 1534 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,440 that we can possibly provide to our 1535 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:09,260 services where we can , you know , if 1536 01:10:09,260 --> 01:10:13,180 we have , uh , the ability to honor a 1537 01:10:13,180 --> 01:10:15,850 multiyear contract , then then I think 1538 01:10:15,850 --> 01:10:18,270 that's exactly what we should do . If 1539 01:10:18,270 --> 01:10:20,870 we have to make a difficult choice and 1540 01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:24,030 invest in something else . Uh , then 1541 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,207 then I think we need to be prepared to 1542 01:10:26,207 --> 01:10:28,500 make that difficult choice , uh , and 1543 01:10:28,510 --> 01:10:31,100 uh , and certainly that we'll we'll pay 1544 01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:34,660 a tax for not abiding by that multi 1545 01:10:34,660 --> 01:10:37,500 year contract . But I think what's most 1546 01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:39,667 important is that we provide the right 1547 01:10:39,667 --> 01:10:43,100 capabilities for the service . So , um , 1548 01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:46,410 I got you and I agree with you . Um 1549 01:10:46,420 --> 01:10:50,190 but I also have uh a 1550 01:10:50,860 --> 01:10:52,804 I also have a belief that if we're 1551 01:10:52,804 --> 01:10:54,916 going to sign a multi year contract , 1552 01:10:54,916 --> 01:10:56,693 we ought to live up to it or we 1553 01:10:56,693 --> 01:10:58,860 shouldn't sign it in the first place . 1554 01:10:58,860 --> 01:11:00,749 You give me your thoughts on that 1555 01:11:00,749 --> 01:11:02,804 because the reason I bring this up , 1556 01:11:02,804 --> 01:11:04,638 the department agreed two a navy 1557 01:11:04,638 --> 01:11:06,804 proposal not to fund two navies guided 1558 01:11:06,804 --> 01:11:08,804 missile destroyers this year . That 1559 01:11:08,804 --> 01:11:10,860 would break a multiyear contract . I 1560 01:11:10,860 --> 01:11:12,971 think the destroyer that soon Senator 1561 01:11:12,971 --> 01:11:15,249 Collins talked about is the same thing . 1562 01:11:15,249 --> 01:11:18,870 So for the DDG uh the tax for for 1563 01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:21,040 not complying with the multi year 1564 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,580 contract is about uh 1565 01:11:25,260 --> 01:11:28,710 What ? million . But you know when you 1566 01:11:28,710 --> 01:11:30,710 compare that to a couple of billion 1567 01:11:30,710 --> 01:11:32,654 dollars that you would have had to 1568 01:11:32,654 --> 01:11:35,240 spend on that on that D . D . G . So , 1569 01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:37,740 so I mean we have to make choices and 1570 01:11:37,740 --> 01:11:41,290 in this case we invested in a D . D . G . 1571 01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:44,680 Two submarines and a frigate . So . 1572 01:11:45,860 --> 01:11:48,027 Okay thank you . Thank you very much . 1573 01:11:48,027 --> 01:11:50,520 Thank you . Mr . Thank you . Senator 1574 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,520 Tester . Senator Graham thank you . 1575 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,687 Thank you both for your service to our 1576 01:11:54,687 --> 01:11:57,720 country . Uh Secretary Austin does the 1577 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,330 Department of Defense have a definition 1578 01:12:00,330 --> 01:12:02,274 of what a cyber attack against the 1579 01:12:02,274 --> 01:12:03,980 United States constitutes ? 1580 01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:11,770 I don't uh I don't recall a specific 1581 01:12:11,860 --> 01:12:14,510 definition . I don't either and I'm not 1582 01:12:14,510 --> 01:12:18,410 blaming you . Uh We need one . Do we 1583 01:12:18,420 --> 01:12:20,587 don't you think we need to define what 1584 01:12:20,587 --> 01:12:23,250 a cyberattack would be and rules of 1585 01:12:23,250 --> 01:12:25,330 engagement about how to respond . Do 1586 01:12:25,330 --> 01:12:27,163 you think that would be a worthy 1587 01:12:27,163 --> 01:12:29,219 endeavor for all of us ? And I'm not 1588 01:12:29,219 --> 01:12:31,441 blaming you . I think all of us need to 1589 01:12:31,441 --> 01:12:33,663 do this . I think it certainly would be 1590 01:12:33,663 --> 01:12:35,552 would be very helpful . Uh That's 1591 01:12:35,552 --> 01:12:37,552 that's good . I'm good . I got five 1592 01:12:37,552 --> 01:12:40,850 minutes here . Uh Iran do both of you 1593 01:12:40,850 --> 01:12:43,830 agree with the assessment by just about 1594 01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:46,170 everybody in the intel world that the 1595 01:12:46,170 --> 01:12:48,220 Iranians are trying to develop a 1596 01:12:48,220 --> 01:12:51,390 nuclear weapon , not a peaceful nuclear 1597 01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:54,940 power program . I 1598 01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:57,510 agree that if left to their own devices 1599 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,680 the Iranians would acquire nuclear 1600 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,890 weapon . General Milley , do you agree 1601 01:13:01,890 --> 01:13:05,070 that's sort of their in game here . 1602 01:13:06,250 --> 01:13:08,760 You know senator . I think yes . But I 1603 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,927 also know that I don't I don't believe 1604 01:13:10,927 --> 01:13:12,982 and I haven't seen any evidence that 1605 01:13:12,982 --> 01:13:15,093 they've been an actual national level 1606 01:13:15,093 --> 01:13:17,204 decision to do that . But it is clear 1607 01:13:17,204 --> 01:13:19,427 to me if you need to check with the C . 1608 01:13:19,427 --> 01:13:21,890 A . I . Have . Okay . And I'm talking 1609 01:13:21,890 --> 01:13:24,120 about a national strategic all I don't 1610 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,453 know how they set the groundwork . Okay . 1611 01:13:26,453 --> 01:13:28,620 Where does the national strategic plan 1612 01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:30,842 come from ? In Iran it would have to be 1613 01:13:30,842 --> 01:13:32,842 the supreme leader of Iran . Yeah . 1614 01:13:32,842 --> 01:13:34,898 That decision , I don't know how you 1615 01:13:34,898 --> 01:13:37,009 determine what he says or doesn't say 1616 01:13:37,009 --> 01:13:39,231 so . Here's my belief they're trying to 1617 01:13:39,231 --> 01:13:41,398 develop a nuclear weapon and I hope we 1618 01:13:41,398 --> 01:13:43,398 understand that because if we don't 1619 01:13:43,398 --> 01:13:43,140 understand it would be hard to stop 1620 01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:45,590 them . Uh my belief as well . So , Okay , 1621 01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:48,270 thank you sir , Afghanistan , both of 1622 01:13:48,270 --> 01:13:51,280 you . How would you rate the the 1623 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,810 likelihood of international terrorist 1624 01:13:53,810 --> 01:13:56,160 organizations like Al Qaeda and IsIS 1625 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,900 regenerating inside of Afghanistan uh 1626 01:13:59,910 --> 01:14:02,243 and presenting a threat to our homeland , 1627 01:14:02,243 --> 01:14:04,590 our allies . Given what you see today . 1628 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,140 Is it a small , medium large ? How 1629 01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:09,670 would you assess it ? I would assess it 1630 01:14:09,670 --> 01:14:11,800 as medium . I would also say senator 1631 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,170 that that it would take 1632 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,030 possibly two years for them to develop 1633 01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:20,808 that capability . Fair enough , 1634 01:14:20,808 --> 01:14:22,974 gentlemen , I concur with that . And I 1635 01:14:22,974 --> 01:14:25,530 think that if certain other things 1636 01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:27,752 happen , if there was a collapse of the 1637 01:14:27,752 --> 01:14:29,919 government or disassociate disillusion 1638 01:14:29,919 --> 01:14:31,974 of the Afghan security forces , that 1639 01:14:31,974 --> 01:14:33,974 risk would obviously increase . But 1640 01:14:33,974 --> 01:14:36,030 right now it's a medium and in about 1641 01:14:36,030 --> 01:14:38,252 two years or so . Okay , thank you very 1642 01:14:38,252 --> 01:14:40,308 much . Uh do you consider the border 1643 01:14:40,308 --> 01:14:44,280 situation In terms of 160% increase in 1644 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,447 illegal crossings in the last year , a 1645 01:14:46,447 --> 01:14:48,613 national security threat to the United 1646 01:14:48,613 --> 01:14:50,058 States Secretary Austin , 1647 01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:55,330 I think that we should be able to 1648 01:14:55,330 --> 01:14:57,441 control our borders and I would defer 1649 01:14:57,441 --> 01:14:59,552 to Secretary of my orders . Would you 1650 01:14:59,552 --> 01:15:02,670 agree with me ? General Milley . Mhm . 1651 01:15:03,140 --> 01:15:06,690 That 160% increase in legal 1652 01:15:06,690 --> 01:15:10,160 crossings is does represent a threat . 1653 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,310 Sure . I think there's a possibility or 1654 01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:16,630 probability of contraband or people 1655 01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:18,630 with ralph Fiennes aforethought and 1656 01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:20,686 criminals and terrorists and all the 1657 01:15:20,686 --> 01:15:22,741 kinds of that's all possible . And I 1658 01:15:22,741 --> 01:15:24,686 think the border protection of any 1659 01:15:24,686 --> 01:15:26,908 nation , sovereignty of any nation is a 1660 01:15:26,908 --> 01:15:29,130 national security issue for any country 1661 01:15:29,130 --> 01:15:29,030 to include ours . I also think that the 1662 01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:31,141 primary responsibility do that is law 1663 01:15:31,141 --> 01:15:33,197 enforcement of the United States . I 1664 01:15:33,197 --> 01:15:35,030 understand , uh , We've taken $2 1665 01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:36,740 billion dollars away from the 1666 01:15:36,740 --> 01:15:38,962 Department of Defense to build a wall . 1667 01:15:39,340 --> 01:15:43,210 Uh do you think we should based on 1668 01:15:43,210 --> 01:15:45,377 your assessment of the threat ? Do you 1669 01:15:45,377 --> 01:15:48,280 think walls will help ? Are you just 1670 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,770 not able to give me an answer on that ? 1671 01:15:52,340 --> 01:15:54,780 I think there's other ways to to to 1672 01:15:54,780 --> 01:15:57,900 work to control the border senator . 1673 01:15:57,910 --> 01:16:01,760 I'm not sure that . So you're okay with 1674 01:16:01,770 --> 01:16:03,880 biden decision to stop building the 1675 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,910 wall ? I I certainly support my 1676 01:16:06,910 --> 01:16:08,900 president's decision . All right , 1677 01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:12,840 thank you very much . Uh China 1678 01:16:13,530 --> 01:16:16,050 General Milley in the next 1679 01:16:16,730 --> 01:16:20,060 decade , given what we see today , 1680 01:16:20,530 --> 01:16:22,474 where is china heading in terms of 1681 01:16:22,474 --> 01:16:25,750 their military capability , china has 1682 01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:29,680 announced publicly , their intent 1683 01:16:29,690 --> 01:16:32,900 to be a peer of the United States and 1684 01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:35,122 to be militarily superior to the United 1685 01:16:35,122 --> 01:16:37,950 States by mid century . They have a 1686 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,793 program , a plan , if you will , 1687 01:16:40,130 --> 01:16:42,480 national aspiration to do that . And 1688 01:16:42,490 --> 01:16:44,323 they have a very , very powerful 1689 01:16:44,323 --> 01:16:46,730 economy uh and they intend to resource 1690 01:16:46,740 --> 01:16:48,920 that to that end . That's exactly what 1691 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,031 they're going to do in our response . 1692 01:16:51,031 --> 01:16:53,370 Should be , I think we I think it's 1693 01:16:53,370 --> 01:16:55,481 incumbent upon us , the United States 1694 01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:57,940 to make sure that we maintain military 1695 01:16:57,940 --> 01:17:00,410 overmatch relative to china in order to 1696 01:17:00,410 --> 01:17:02,660 maintain peace and deterrence . If we 1697 01:17:02,660 --> 01:17:05,110 fail to do that , it's my personal and 1698 01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:07,221 professional opinion that we're going 1699 01:17:07,221 --> 01:17:09,332 to place a future generation at great 1700 01:17:09,332 --> 01:17:11,443 risk . Couldn't agree with you more . 1701 01:17:11,443 --> 01:17:15,290 Thank you both . Thank you very much . 1702 01:17:15,290 --> 01:17:17,730 And Senator Shaheen , thank you Mr 1703 01:17:17,730 --> 01:17:19,841 Chairman and Secretary Austin General 1704 01:17:19,841 --> 01:17:22,008 Milley , thank you both for being here 1705 01:17:22,008 --> 01:17:24,820 this morning . Um Over the course of 1706 01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:27,230 the almost 20 years of conflict in 1707 01:17:27,230 --> 01:17:30,150 Afghanistan And Iraq , we've relied on 1708 01:17:30,150 --> 01:17:32,900 our partners on the ground to help us 1709 01:17:32,910 --> 01:17:35,800 um particularly in Afghanistan where at 1710 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,970 the time the president announced the 1711 01:17:37,980 --> 01:17:41,280 intent to withdraw , we had 18,000 1712 01:17:41,290 --> 01:17:44,700 Afghans and the Q who say that they are 1713 01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:47,380 being threatened with harm to 1714 01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:49,491 themselves and their families because 1715 01:17:49,491 --> 01:17:51,713 of their willingness to help the United 1716 01:17:51,713 --> 01:17:53,936 States . General Milley , you've stated 1717 01:17:53,936 --> 01:17:55,713 that the department was rapidly 1718 01:17:55,713 --> 01:17:57,960 preparing plans to evacuate afghans 1719 01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,849 that have worked with the U . S . 1720 01:17:59,849 --> 01:18:02,016 Government . Can you give us an update 1721 01:18:02,016 --> 01:18:04,238 on those plans and whether you think we 1722 01:18:04,238 --> 01:18:06,690 are in a position with what appears to 1723 01:18:06,690 --> 01:18:10,350 be a rapid um 1724 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,230 end to our withdrawal from Afghanistan 1725 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,240 to help those people who are in the 1726 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,880 queue ? Yes , Senator , uh and I said 1727 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,824 those remarks a couple weeks ago , 1728 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,342 planning is ongoing . The Department of 1729 01:18:24,342 --> 01:18:26,830 State is the lead agency uh to work 1730 01:18:26,830 --> 01:18:29,740 with any host nation on the evacuation 1731 01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:33,200 of citizens who desire that . In that 1732 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,422 case , in the case of Afghanistan , the 1733 01:18:35,422 --> 01:18:37,589 special immigrant Visa program , State 1734 01:18:37,589 --> 01:18:39,811 Department running that they're working 1735 01:18:39,811 --> 01:18:42,033 it . We the Department offense with the 1736 01:18:42,033 --> 01:18:44,144 military are in support of Department 1737 01:18:44,144 --> 01:18:46,144 of State's plans were working uh at 1738 01:18:46,144 --> 01:18:48,311 echelon from embassy all the way up to 1739 01:18:48,311 --> 01:18:50,367 Washington . See lots of planning is 1740 01:18:50,367 --> 01:18:52,589 ongoing . Various contingencies are out 1741 01:18:52,589 --> 01:18:54,756 there and we have to wait and see what 1742 01:18:54,756 --> 01:18:56,644 the what the situation is . As it 1743 01:18:56,644 --> 01:18:58,830 develops . We the military are capable 1744 01:18:58,830 --> 01:19:01,052 of doing basically whatever is directed 1745 01:19:01,052 --> 01:19:02,997 and we're very confident we can do 1746 01:19:02,997 --> 01:19:05,052 whatever is required . Well , I have 1747 01:19:05,052 --> 01:19:06,997 expressed my concerns to the State 1748 01:19:06,997 --> 01:19:08,997 Department as well . And when I did 1749 01:19:08,997 --> 01:19:11,590 that A month or so ago , I understood 1750 01:19:11,590 --> 01:19:13,646 that there were three people who had 1751 01:19:13,646 --> 01:19:15,720 been sent on temporary duty to help 1752 01:19:15,730 --> 01:19:17,841 with the backlog that is not going to 1753 01:19:17,841 --> 01:19:19,860 get us through 18,000 people . And 1754 01:19:19,870 --> 01:19:22,860 given the potential threat , I hope 1755 01:19:22,860 --> 01:19:25,490 that D O . D will coordinate very 1756 01:19:25,490 --> 01:19:27,530 closely with state so that we don't 1757 01:19:27,530 --> 01:19:29,697 have the kind of situation we had when 1758 01:19:29,697 --> 01:19:33,590 we withdrew from Vietnam . Um , could I 1759 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,150 center , if I could My professional 1760 01:19:36,150 --> 01:19:38,372 opinion , I do not see that unfolding . 1761 01:19:38,372 --> 01:19:40,483 I may be wrong . Who knows ? He can't 1762 01:19:40,483 --> 01:19:42,539 predict the future . But I don't see 1763 01:19:42,539 --> 01:19:44,900 Saigon 1975 in Afghanistan . The 1764 01:19:44,910 --> 01:19:48,080 Taliban are not the north , the Taliban 1765 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,302 just aren't the North Vietnamese army . 1766 01:19:50,302 --> 01:19:52,524 It's not a similar , it's not that kind 1767 01:19:52,524 --> 01:19:54,691 of situation . You know , you have our 1768 01:19:54,691 --> 01:19:56,691 commitment senator that will , this 1769 01:19:56,691 --> 01:19:58,747 department will do everything within 1770 01:19:58,747 --> 01:20:01,390 our power to the number one support the 1771 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,780 State Department's efforts . Uh , if 1772 01:20:03,780 --> 01:20:06,350 we're required to generate capabilities 1773 01:20:06,350 --> 01:20:08,930 like transportation , whatever required 1774 01:20:08,930 --> 01:20:12,020 to do , uh we'll be fully behind 1775 01:20:12,030 --> 01:20:15,950 uh this effort . Well , thank you . 1776 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,850 Just to follow up a little bit on 1777 01:20:17,860 --> 01:20:20,250 Senator Collins question about the 1778 01:20:20,250 --> 01:20:22,194 impact on women and girls . And we 1779 01:20:22,194 --> 01:20:24,306 discussed this General Milley several 1780 01:20:24,306 --> 01:20:26,528 weeks ago , but are we working with our 1781 01:20:26,528 --> 01:20:28,750 international partners to protect those 1782 01:20:28,750 --> 01:20:31,860 vulnerable populations f as we leave ? 1783 01:20:31,870 --> 01:20:35,580 And once we have left , I think we're 1784 01:20:35,580 --> 01:20:37,524 doing everything we the military , 1785 01:20:37,524 --> 01:20:39,691 doing everything we can to ensure that 1786 01:20:39,691 --> 01:20:41,691 those that worked with us and those 1787 01:20:41,691 --> 01:20:43,913 that remain are protected to the extent 1788 01:20:43,913 --> 01:20:46,080 that we have that ability to do that . 1789 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,358 But realistically , if we're not there , 1790 01:20:48,358 --> 01:20:48,260 we're gonna have very limited impact on 1791 01:20:48,260 --> 01:20:50,427 the protection of those that are still 1792 01:20:50,427 --> 01:20:52,690 uh in Afghanistan . And if certain 1793 01:20:52,690 --> 01:20:55,330 scenarios unfold too early to tell if 1794 01:20:55,330 --> 01:20:57,386 that's going to happen . But if they 1795 01:20:57,386 --> 01:20:59,608 did , then yes , your your concerns and 1796 01:20:59,608 --> 01:21:01,663 everyone else's concerns about women 1797 01:21:01,663 --> 01:21:03,774 and girls are justified . Thank you . 1798 01:21:03,774 --> 01:21:07,310 And I think General Milley , you were 1799 01:21:07,310 --> 01:21:09,500 talking about pivoting to future 1800 01:21:09,500 --> 01:21:11,611 military force and the need to invest 1801 01:21:11,611 --> 01:21:13,990 in hyper sonics and robotics and ai you 1802 01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:16,046 both you also talked about that , Mr 1803 01:21:16,046 --> 01:21:18,101 Secretary and I certainly agree with 1804 01:21:18,101 --> 01:21:20,160 that . But as I look at some of the 1805 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,040 situations where our aggressors have 1806 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,430 been successful in the last decade . 1807 01:21:25,710 --> 01:21:27,960 It's really been through hybrid warfare 1808 01:21:27,970 --> 01:21:31,940 and grey zone efforts . And what are 1809 01:21:31,940 --> 01:21:34,430 we doing to address those ? Because as 1810 01:21:34,430 --> 01:21:36,486 I look at the potential for Vladimir 1811 01:21:36,486 --> 01:21:40,130 Putin to engage again in eastern europe . 1812 01:21:40,510 --> 01:21:43,440 As I look at the potential in 1813 01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:47,580 the asian pacific region , it's those 1814 01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:50,320 efforts that I am most concerned about . 1815 01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:52,520 And so how are we responding on those 1816 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,100 efforts ? He , on the uniform 1817 01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:58,330 side , we just published fact , 1818 01:21:58,330 --> 01:22:00,340 Secretary just signed the joint 1819 01:22:00,340 --> 01:22:03,590 warfighting concepts uh and in embedded 1820 01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:05,757 within that is a concept of integrated 1821 01:22:05,757 --> 01:22:07,810 deterrence . Uh It's a concept of 1822 01:22:07,810 --> 01:22:10,990 globally integrated operations uh and 1823 01:22:10,990 --> 01:22:13,620 Grey zone operations uh as you as you 1824 01:22:13,620 --> 01:22:15,564 call them and as we call them , uh 1825 01:22:15,564 --> 01:22:17,676 those are fully part of that . And so 1826 01:22:17,676 --> 01:22:19,842 what are we doing specifically ? Socom 1827 01:22:19,842 --> 01:22:22,064 has a very big role to play with all of 1828 01:22:22,064 --> 01:22:24,120 our special forces . Obviously , the 1829 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,342 world , the domain of cyber and space , 1830 01:22:26,342 --> 01:22:28,453 play a critical role , our ability to 1831 01:22:28,453 --> 01:22:28,030 see and develop intelligence , 1832 01:22:28,030 --> 01:22:30,252 surveillance and reconnaissance in that 1833 01:22:30,252 --> 01:22:32,308 area . And there's a lot of money in 1834 01:22:32,308 --> 01:22:34,474 this budget to do just that . So those 1835 01:22:34,474 --> 01:22:36,697 are the type of capabilities along with 1836 01:22:36,697 --> 01:22:38,808 other agencies in the government that 1837 01:22:38,808 --> 01:22:41,030 would deal in levels below the level of 1838 01:22:41,030 --> 01:22:43,150 open armed conflict . Uh If you get 1839 01:22:43,150 --> 01:22:45,372 into open armed conflict , you'll still 1840 01:22:45,372 --> 01:22:47,450 face hybrid war with not only 1841 01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:49,617 conventional forces but also irregular 1842 01:22:49,617 --> 01:22:51,950 forces and irregular warfare is one of 1843 01:22:51,950 --> 01:22:54,360 the key parts of the current national 1844 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,590 defense strategy . And I expect you'll 1845 01:22:56,590 --> 01:22:58,368 see that again in the future of 1846 01:22:58,368 --> 01:23:00,479 national defense strategy . Thank you 1847 01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,646 very much . I'm out of time but I have 1848 01:23:02,646 --> 01:23:04,812 a final very brief question . Um would 1849 01:23:04,812 --> 01:23:07,460 we be in better shape to protect the 1850 01:23:07,460 --> 01:23:10,990 arctic and other um south china sea and 1851 01:23:10,990 --> 01:23:13,510 other aspects of our oceans ? If we 1852 01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:15,566 remember the law of the sea treaty ? 1853 01:23:18,500 --> 01:23:21,470 I would I personally think it's a good 1854 01:23:21,470 --> 01:23:23,414 idea to support the law of the sea 1855 01:23:23,414 --> 01:23:25,526 treaty because it's all about freedom 1856 01:23:25,526 --> 01:23:27,581 of navigation . We are the principal 1857 01:23:27,581 --> 01:23:29,414 nation that advocates freedom of 1858 01:23:29,414 --> 01:23:31,470 navigation . It's our navy that goes 1859 01:23:31,470 --> 01:23:31,140 around on a day to day basis , 1860 01:23:31,140 --> 01:23:33,251 enforcing freedom of navigation . Are 1861 01:23:33,251 --> 01:23:36,120 uh implementing that . Uh and I think 1862 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,231 the large C . Is a key part to that . 1863 01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:40,950 So I would I would advocate for doing 1864 01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:42,230 that . Yes , thank you .