1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 2 00:00:04,140 --> 00:00:07,560 Okay , let's just get right to it . 3 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:13,670 I think you saw today , the 4 00:00:13,670 --> 00:00:15,660 president announced and authorized 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,940 another presidential drawdown of 6 00:00:19,940 --> 00:00:22,780 security assistance valued at up to an 7 00:00:22,780 --> 00:00:26,230 additional $800 million tailored to 8 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:29,210 meet urgent Ukrainian needs for today's 9 00:00:29,210 --> 00:00:31,210 fight . As Russian forces shift the 10 00:00:31,210 --> 00:00:33,377 focus of their ruthless aggression now 11 00:00:33,377 --> 00:00:35,830 to eastern Ukraine , this authorization 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,280 is the seventh such drawdown of 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,510 equipment from D . O . D . Inventories 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,510 for Ukraine since august of 2021 . 15 00:00:44,510 --> 00:00:46,066 And you can see the list of 16 00:00:46,066 --> 00:00:48,232 capabilities there up on the screen so 17 00:00:48,232 --> 00:00:50,510 I won't bother reading them all to you . 18 00:00:50,510 --> 00:00:52,121 Some of them are reinforcing 19 00:00:52,121 --> 00:00:54,790 capabilities that we have already been 20 00:00:54,790 --> 00:00:57,620 providing Ukraine and some of them are 21 00:00:57,620 --> 00:00:59,509 new capabilities that we have not 22 00:00:59,509 --> 00:01:01,620 provided to Ukraine . All of them are 23 00:01:01,620 --> 00:01:03,731 designed to help Ukraine as we talked 24 00:01:03,731 --> 00:01:05,898 about , help Ukraine in the fight that 25 00:01:05,898 --> 00:01:08,430 they are in right now uh and the fight 26 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:11,560 that they will be in uh in coming days 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,616 and weeks in the eastern part of the 28 00:01:13,616 --> 00:01:15,860 country . The United States has now 29 00:01:15,860 --> 00:01:18,570 committed more than $3.2 billion in 30 00:01:18,570 --> 00:01:20,626 security assistance to Ukraine since 31 00:01:20,626 --> 00:01:22,126 the beginning of the biden 32 00:01:22,126 --> 00:01:23,626 administration , including 33 00:01:23,626 --> 00:01:25,980 approximately $2.6 billion since the 34 00:01:25,980 --> 00:01:28,280 beginning . Just since the beginning of 35 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,391 their unprovoked invasion on february 36 00:01:30,391 --> 00:01:33,650 24th . The United States also continues 37 00:01:33,650 --> 00:01:35,890 to work with its allies and partners to 38 00:01:35,890 --> 00:01:38,150 identify and provide Ukraine with 39 00:01:38,150 --> 00:01:40,317 additional capabilities , capabilities 40 00:01:40,317 --> 00:01:42,206 that aren't in our stocks that we 41 00:01:42,206 --> 00:01:44,039 aren't as as able to get to them 42 00:01:44,039 --> 00:01:46,320 directly and we're gonna obviously 43 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:48,431 continue to utilize all the available 44 00:01:48,431 --> 00:01:50,264 tools at our disposal to support 45 00:01:50,264 --> 00:01:52,376 Ukraine's armed forces in the face of 46 00:01:52,376 --> 00:01:54,598 Russian aggression . So with that we'll 47 00:01:54,598 --> 00:01:56,820 go to questions bob john , 48 00:01:58,540 --> 00:02:01,370 I'm wondering if you could on the 49 00:02:01,370 --> 00:02:05,310 helicopters ? Are these the helicopters 50 00:02:05,310 --> 00:02:07,600 that you had in on stock because they 51 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,860 were going to be going to Afghanistan ? 52 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Yeah , So these 11 am I seventeens are 53 00:02:14,290 --> 00:02:16,830 these had been earmarked for 54 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,100 Afghanistan ? Uh , they are coming out 55 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:21,450 of our our stocks , our inventory , we 56 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:23,228 have them . We didn't obviously 57 00:02:23,228 --> 00:02:26,470 transfer them to Afghanistan . So , uh , 58 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,758 we're now transferring them to Ukraine . 59 00:02:28,758 --> 00:02:30,869 I would remind that , as you probably 60 00:02:30,869 --> 00:02:32,813 remember , we had already provided 61 00:02:32,813 --> 00:02:35,100 Ukraine five M I 17 not long ago . So 62 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,211 this is not the first time that we've 63 00:02:37,211 --> 00:02:39,430 given them M I seventeens related 64 00:02:39,430 --> 00:02:42,650 question . Um , you mentioned the 65 00:02:42,650 --> 00:02:45,620 urgency of this and the the shift of 66 00:02:45,620 --> 00:02:47,787 the Russian focus to the to the east . 67 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,860 Um , are you also putting an urgency on 68 00:02:51,870 --> 00:02:55,110 trying to facilitate in some way 69 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,730 transfer of armor from eastern european 70 00:02:58,730 --> 00:03:01,150 NATO member countries who would have 71 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:03,696 tanks or other armored that that the 72 00:03:03,696 --> 00:03:05,862 Ukrainians would be familiar with ? Is 73 00:03:05,862 --> 00:03:08,084 that is that moving forward or ? Yeah , 74 00:03:08,084 --> 00:03:10,084 I would without talking about other 75 00:03:10,084 --> 00:03:11,973 sovereign states and what they're 76 00:03:11,973 --> 00:03:14,950 providing . I can tell you that that 77 00:03:14,950 --> 00:03:18,460 that there are at least a couple that 78 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:22,020 are providing armor capabilities tanks 79 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:24,620 largely to T 72 tanks which the 80 00:03:24,620 --> 00:03:26,787 Ukrainians know how to use are trained 81 00:03:26,787 --> 00:03:29,680 on and they are getting some transfers 82 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,780 of , of tanks from , from other 83 00:03:31,780 --> 00:03:34,170 countries in NATO . But I'd leave it to 84 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:36,450 those nations to speak to that more 85 00:03:36,450 --> 00:03:40,080 specifically as soon as 86 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,800 possible ? I mean , we uh , as you've 87 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,967 seen us go in the past from the , from 88 00:03:44,967 --> 00:03:46,856 the time the president authorizes 89 00:03:46,856 --> 00:03:49,750 drawdown until the first shipments 90 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,180 actually start landing in the region 91 00:03:52,180 --> 00:03:55,780 can be as little as 4 to 5 days and 92 00:03:55,780 --> 00:03:58,480 then another a couple of days once , uh , 93 00:03:58,490 --> 00:04:00,546 you know , once they're there to get 94 00:04:00,546 --> 00:04:02,768 processed and and actually in the hands 95 00:04:02,768 --> 00:04:06,650 of Ukrainian front line forces . So we 96 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:10,080 are still finishing up the last $800 97 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,270 million that President biden authorized . 98 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:15,492 And we were getting close to the end of 99 00:04:15,492 --> 00:04:17,548 that . We expect to be complete with 100 00:04:17,548 --> 00:04:19,714 that last 800 million by the middle of 101 00:04:19,714 --> 00:04:21,881 this month around the 15th . But we're 102 00:04:21,881 --> 00:04:23,992 not gonna wait . We're going to start 103 00:04:23,992 --> 00:04:26,048 getting these articles on the way as 104 00:04:26,048 --> 00:04:28,159 well . So we will , we will literally 105 00:04:28,159 --> 00:04:30,159 start right away . Sorry , one last 106 00:04:30,159 --> 00:04:32,381 quick thing , the howitzers is this the 107 00:04:32,381 --> 00:04:34,548 first time you've provided artillery ? 108 00:04:34,548 --> 00:04:36,603 It is it's the first time that we've 109 00:04:36,603 --> 00:04:38,659 provided these 155 howitzers and the 110 00:04:38,659 --> 00:04:40,659 associated rounds that will go with 111 00:04:40,659 --> 00:04:42,881 them . And again , that's reflective of 112 00:04:42,881 --> 00:04:45,103 the kind of fighting that uh , that the 113 00:04:45,103 --> 00:04:47,270 Ukrainians are expecting to uh , to be 114 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:49,326 faced with here in this a little bit 115 00:04:49,326 --> 00:04:51,381 more confined geographic area . They 116 00:04:51,381 --> 00:04:53,603 specifically asked for fire support and 117 00:04:53,603 --> 00:04:55,381 that and specifically asked for 118 00:04:55,381 --> 00:04:58,610 artillery support ? Yeah , sorry . 119 00:04:59,140 --> 00:05:02,840 And are the atrocities 120 00:05:02,850 --> 00:05:06,200 attributed to the Russian military ? 121 00:05:06,210 --> 00:05:09,970 Are there a factor in the the decision 122 00:05:09,970 --> 00:05:13,670 to send Ukraine more lethal 123 00:05:14,450 --> 00:05:17,050 weapons providing some lethal weapons 124 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:20,790 in the past . So this this draw 125 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:23,740 down here today is 126 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,040 a function very specifically a function 127 00:05:28,050 --> 00:05:30,217 of conversations that we have had with 128 00:05:30,217 --> 00:05:32,390 Ukrainian leaders in just the last few 129 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:34,590 days , including the President's 130 00:05:34,590 --> 00:05:36,479 conversation today with President 131 00:05:36,479 --> 00:05:39,610 Zelensky . I mean we tailored this list 132 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:41,620 specifically to meet the needs that 133 00:05:41,620 --> 00:05:43,760 they have asked for with respect to 134 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,816 what's going on in eastern Ukraine , 135 00:05:45,816 --> 00:05:47,816 That's what's really driving this . 136 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:50,450 Yeah . We heard a senior defense 137 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:53,500 officials say earlier today that U . S . 138 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:55,667 Troops in europe may be tapped to help 139 00:05:55,667 --> 00:05:58,410 train Ukrainians on weapons systems . 140 00:05:58,410 --> 00:06:00,632 And I'm wondering since we've seen this 141 00:06:00,632 --> 00:06:02,410 announcement of this additional 142 00:06:02,410 --> 00:06:04,577 security assistance or whether there's 143 00:06:04,577 --> 00:06:06,799 any more clarity of whether troops will 144 00:06:06,799 --> 00:06:08,743 actually be doing that training um 145 00:06:08,743 --> 00:06:10,910 which troops may be doing the training 146 00:06:10,910 --> 00:06:13,021 and if there are any particular items 147 00:06:13,021 --> 00:06:14,966 on that list ? Yeah , that service 148 00:06:14,966 --> 00:06:17,132 members may be able to help us . So we 149 00:06:17,132 --> 00:06:16,840 do anticipate that some of these items 150 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:18,951 will require some additional training 151 00:06:18,951 --> 00:06:21,960 for for Ukrainians . Um We haven't uh 152 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:25,550 we're still working through what those 153 00:06:25,550 --> 00:06:27,772 options are gonna look like , what that 154 00:06:27,772 --> 00:06:29,994 train is gonna look like , how many U . 155 00:06:29,994 --> 00:06:32,161 S . Troops are going to be involved in 156 00:06:32,161 --> 00:06:34,383 it ? Where is it going to be ? How long 157 00:06:34,383 --> 00:06:33,930 it's gonna depend , we're still working 158 00:06:33,930 --> 00:06:36,330 our way through that . But we believe 159 00:06:36,330 --> 00:06:38,386 that we can put together appropriate 160 00:06:38,386 --> 00:06:40,719 training for some of these systems very , 161 00:06:40,719 --> 00:06:42,719 very quickly . These are not highly 162 00:06:42,719 --> 00:06:45,180 complex systems . The systems that will 163 00:06:45,180 --> 00:06:47,050 probably require some additional 164 00:06:47,050 --> 00:06:49,350 training for Ukrainian forces are the 165 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,690 howitzers . Uh the T . P . Q . 36 166 00:06:52,690 --> 00:06:54,801 counter artillery . It are not a very 167 00:06:54,801 --> 00:06:56,860 difficult system to operate but it's 168 00:06:56,860 --> 00:06:58,638 not one that they have in their 169 00:06:58,638 --> 00:07:00,800 inventory . The uh thank you for that 170 00:07:00,810 --> 00:07:03,160 and go to the the M . Q . Q . Mq for 171 00:07:03,940 --> 00:07:07,420 yeah , Mq 64 . Yeah . Mm PQ . Sorry , 172 00:07:07,420 --> 00:07:09,642 the sentinel air surveillance , this is 173 00:07:09,642 --> 00:07:12,310 a uh an air defense radar system uh 174 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,920 three D . Phase array . And that also 175 00:07:15,930 --> 00:07:18,300 is gonna require a little bit of 176 00:07:18,310 --> 00:07:20,421 training on for that . Go back to the 177 00:07:20,421 --> 00:07:21,810 main list if you could . 178 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,990 So we already talked about switchblade 179 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,460 training that has already occurred . 180 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,190 And um and we know that there will 181 00:07:32,190 --> 00:07:34,301 probably be a need for some follow on 182 00:07:34,301 --> 00:07:36,134 switchblade training for again , 183 00:07:36,134 --> 00:07:38,850 training more trainers if you will . Um 184 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,260 they will they might need some training 185 00:07:44,270 --> 00:07:48,030 on uh the way down to the bottom there , 186 00:07:48,030 --> 00:07:50,170 the optics and laser range finders . 187 00:07:50,170 --> 00:07:52,337 But that's that won't take very long . 188 00:07:52,337 --> 00:07:54,503 It's not a very these are those aren't 189 00:07:54,503 --> 00:07:56,726 complicated systems but they might need 190 00:07:56,726 --> 00:07:58,837 some of that . Uh And perhaps some uh 191 00:07:58,837 --> 00:08:01,003 some basic training on the claymores . 192 00:08:01,003 --> 00:08:04,580 Um But the big ticket items that 193 00:08:04,590 --> 00:08:06,534 that will require some training of 194 00:08:06,534 --> 00:08:08,534 those radars . Uh and the artillery 195 00:08:08,534 --> 00:08:11,500 systems . Um Again we're still working 196 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:13,667 our way through what that's gonna look 197 00:08:13,667 --> 00:08:15,722 like , Where when how many it's more 198 00:08:15,722 --> 00:08:17,833 likely than not that what we would do 199 00:08:17,833 --> 00:08:20,000 because they are in an active fight is 200 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,167 a train the trainers program . So pull 201 00:08:22,167 --> 00:08:25,310 a small number of Ukrainian forces out 202 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,431 so that they can get trained on these 203 00:08:27,431 --> 00:08:29,680 systems and then send them back in . It 204 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,850 won't be it won't be a cafeteria style . 205 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:35,200 It will likely be tailored will pull 206 00:08:35,210 --> 00:08:36,988 will pull troops out that , for 207 00:08:36,988 --> 00:08:38,932 instance artilleryman to learn the 208 00:08:38,932 --> 00:08:40,988 artillery , the howitzer and then go 209 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:42,932 back in and train their colleagues 210 00:08:42,932 --> 00:08:44,988 rather than take an artilleryman and 211 00:08:44,988 --> 00:08:47,154 make them responsible for , you know , 212 00:08:47,154 --> 00:08:49,488 training everybody in all these systems . 213 00:08:49,488 --> 00:08:51,654 So we'll do it in a tailored fashion . 214 00:08:51,654 --> 00:08:50,940 But again , we're working our way 215 00:08:50,940 --> 00:08:52,940 through that right now , if I could 216 00:08:52,940 --> 00:08:55,051 just follow up since the beginning of 217 00:08:55,051 --> 00:08:57,218 the conflict , there has been concerns 218 00:08:57,218 --> 00:08:58,829 about escalation and U . S . 219 00:08:58,829 --> 00:09:01,051 Involvement . And I'm wondering if this 220 00:09:01,051 --> 00:09:03,162 us training if there are any concerns 221 00:09:03,162 --> 00:09:05,273 of whether this is going to look like 222 00:09:05,273 --> 00:09:06,940 some type of escalation or be 223 00:09:06,940 --> 00:09:09,107 interpreted that way by the Russians . 224 00:09:09,107 --> 00:09:11,218 I can't speak for the Russian side of 225 00:09:11,218 --> 00:09:13,970 this . Let's go back to basics . 226 00:09:15,140 --> 00:09:18,230 Ukraine was invaded in an unprovoked 227 00:09:18,230 --> 00:09:21,640 way by Russia . Uh they have uh 228 00:09:21,650 --> 00:09:24,300 suffered a lot of casualties , uh 229 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:28,070 damage to so many cities . Um millions 230 00:09:28,070 --> 00:09:31,220 of Ukrainians have now become refugees 231 00:09:31,230 --> 00:09:34,020 inside and outside their country . This 232 00:09:34,020 --> 00:09:36,131 was a war they didn't deserve it . So 233 00:09:36,131 --> 00:09:38,187 not a war that they certainly didn't 234 00:09:38,187 --> 00:09:40,076 ask for . There was no reason for 235 00:09:40,076 --> 00:09:43,030 Russia uh to invade Ukraine at all 236 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:44,752 particularly when Mr Putin had 237 00:09:44,752 --> 00:09:47,200 diplomatic options on the table . We 238 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,367 committed from the very beginning even 239 00:09:49,367 --> 00:09:51,533 before the invasion to helping Ukraine 240 00:09:51,533 --> 00:09:53,756 be able to defend itself . This is of a 241 00:09:53,756 --> 00:09:55,370 piece of that and this is 242 00:09:55,370 --> 00:09:58,520 representative of the kinds of 243 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,353 capabilities that the Ukrainians 244 00:10:00,353 --> 00:10:02,576 themselves have asked for and said they 245 00:10:02,576 --> 00:10:04,742 need as this fighting now gets focused 246 00:10:04,742 --> 00:10:06,798 on the eastern part of the country . 247 00:10:06,798 --> 00:10:08,631 How that gets interpreted by the 248 00:10:08,631 --> 00:10:10,853 Russians ? You can ask Mr Putin and the 249 00:10:10,853 --> 00:10:13,076 Kremlin , what we're concerned about is 250 00:10:13,076 --> 00:10:12,850 making sure that we are doing what we 251 00:10:12,850 --> 00:10:15,017 said we were going to do which is have 252 00:10:15,017 --> 00:10:16,850 an hour of conversation with the 253 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:18,906 Ukrainians and try to do the best we 254 00:10:18,906 --> 00:10:21,072 can to meet their self defense needs . 255 00:10:21,072 --> 00:10:23,183 And again I wanna stress this is this 256 00:10:23,183 --> 00:10:25,128 is coming from us stocks from what 257 00:10:25,128 --> 00:10:27,350 we've got . Other nations are doing the 258 00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:28,906 same thing . They're having 259 00:10:28,906 --> 00:10:30,961 conversations with Ukrainian leaders 260 00:10:30,961 --> 00:10:33,128 and they're trying to fill their needs 261 00:10:33,128 --> 00:10:32,840 as best they can to because they have 262 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,896 some systems that the Ukrainians are 263 00:10:34,896 --> 00:10:37,062 simply more comfortable with than than 264 00:10:37,062 --> 00:10:39,450 we do carla . Thank you . Three quick 265 00:10:39,450 --> 00:10:41,750 ones . If I may 1st of all you say on 266 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:44,083 that list there's chemical , biological , 267 00:10:44,083 --> 00:10:46,083 radiological and nuclear protective 268 00:10:46,083 --> 00:10:48,420 equipment . Can you elaborate on this ? 269 00:10:48,420 --> 00:10:52,110 Is individual equipment um protective 270 00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:55,350 suits and individual 271 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,040 detection devices . Okay thank you . 272 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,930 And then um put on leaders either are 273 00:11:00,930 --> 00:11:03,097 meeting or have met today with defense 274 00:11:03,097 --> 00:11:05,097 contractors about Ukraine . Can you 275 00:11:05,097 --> 00:11:07,041 give us any more details about the 276 00:11:07,041 --> 00:11:09,319 meeting ? Who attended or is attending ? 277 00:11:09,319 --> 00:11:11,374 Um what's been discussed ? Yeah this 278 00:11:11,374 --> 00:11:13,486 was , as I said earlier , I mean this 279 00:11:13,486 --> 00:11:16,930 this meeting was of a piece of a larger 280 00:11:16,930 --> 00:11:20,650 longer effort that we have put in 281 00:11:20,650 --> 00:11:24,340 place now um over the last many 282 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:28,190 months to have a recurring dialogue 283 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,350 with Ceos of major defense contractors 284 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,096 a few weeks ago , a couple of months 285 00:11:34,096 --> 00:11:35,929 ago we talked about one that was 286 00:11:35,929 --> 00:11:38,620 focused on hypersonic for instance . Uh 287 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:42,250 This one was really focused on the 288 00:11:42,260 --> 00:11:45,490 kinds of systems and weapons uh that 289 00:11:45,490 --> 00:11:48,380 have been relevant in the Ukraine war . 290 00:11:48,390 --> 00:11:51,860 And um we wanted to make sure that 291 00:11:52,340 --> 00:11:54,210 we had a good honest , candid 292 00:11:54,220 --> 00:11:56,800 discussion with these uh with the C E O . 293 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,430 S um about the systems that they're 294 00:11:59,430 --> 00:12:01,520 producing , about the rate at which 295 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,520 they're being produced about the 296 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,576 possibility for accelerating some of 297 00:12:05,576 --> 00:12:07,631 those production lines and expanding 298 00:12:07,631 --> 00:12:11,140 them based on the heavy draw on our 299 00:12:11,140 --> 00:12:13,250 inventory to support Ukraine . Now I 300 00:12:13,250 --> 00:12:15,710 want to stress that we have not reached 301 00:12:15,710 --> 00:12:17,766 a level of inventory of any of these 302 00:12:17,766 --> 00:12:19,488 systems that are impacting our 303 00:12:19,488 --> 00:12:21,710 readiness abilities . But we don't want 304 00:12:21,710 --> 00:12:23,932 to get to that point before we start to 305 00:12:23,932 --> 00:12:26,154 have a conversation with industry about 306 00:12:26,154 --> 00:12:28,377 replenishment and uh and the production 307 00:12:28,377 --> 00:12:30,599 line going forward . And so that's what 308 00:12:30,599 --> 00:12:32,821 this was all about . It was it was part 309 00:12:32,821 --> 00:12:34,680 of a normal scheduled routine 310 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:37,180 conversation that we have with defense 311 00:12:37,180 --> 00:12:39,347 industry leaders but obviously focused 312 00:12:39,347 --> 00:12:42,050 much more specifically on what's going 313 00:12:42,050 --> 00:12:44,660 on in Ukraine . So um Boeing was 314 00:12:44,660 --> 00:12:47,260 represented uh L three Harris was 315 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:50,310 represented . Raytheon , baby be A , 316 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:52,720 sorry , B A E Systems , Lockheed martin , 317 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,831 Huntington ingalls , General dynamics 318 00:12:54,831 --> 00:12:56,498 and Northrop Grumman were all 319 00:12:56,498 --> 00:12:58,609 represented today . Okay . And it was 320 00:12:58,609 --> 00:13:00,831 it was a good discussion . We were very 321 00:13:00,831 --> 00:13:00,010 grateful . I want to stay there and say 322 00:13:00,010 --> 00:13:02,121 that right at the top , very grateful 323 00:13:02,121 --> 00:13:04,343 for their willingness to come on in and 324 00:13:04,343 --> 00:13:06,566 have this discussion . Um uh the Deputy 325 00:13:06,566 --> 00:13:08,788 secretary hicks kicked it off . She she 326 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:11,700 she led it . Um and um and again I 327 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:13,922 would I fully expect that there will be 328 00:13:13,922 --> 00:13:16,350 additional such roundtable discussions 329 00:13:16,350 --> 00:13:18,294 going forward with the C E O S and 330 00:13:18,294 --> 00:13:20,390 perhaps others as as time goes on . 331 00:13:20,410 --> 00:13:22,632 Okay , thank you . And then one more if 332 00:13:22,632 --> 00:13:24,743 I may , can you confirm the reporting 333 00:13:24,743 --> 00:13:24,380 that's out there that the biden 334 00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:26,070 administration is moving to 335 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,930 significantly expand until Shane 336 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:30,510 sharing with Ukrainian forces that 337 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:32,454 could potentially help them . I've 338 00:13:32,454 --> 00:13:34,700 talked about this before carla , we as 339 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:37,730 as the fight has changed as the the 340 00:13:37,740 --> 00:13:39,796 geographic concentration has changed 341 00:13:39,796 --> 00:13:42,018 for Russia and they're focusing more on 342 00:13:42,018 --> 00:13:44,184 the Don boss . You heard the secretary 343 00:13:44,184 --> 00:13:46,351 talked about this in testimony that we 344 00:13:46,351 --> 00:13:48,573 felt it was important that we needed to 345 00:13:48,573 --> 00:13:50,573 update the guidance on intelligence 346 00:13:50,573 --> 00:13:52,629 sharing with the Ukrainians based on 347 00:13:52,629 --> 00:13:54,740 developments on the ground and and uh 348 00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:56,796 and we're doing that ? Yeah , yeah , 349 00:13:56,796 --> 00:13:58,851 guys about the helicopters . How are 350 00:13:58,851 --> 00:14:01,073 they actually getting into Ukraine ? Is 351 00:14:01,073 --> 00:14:00,880 the Ukrainian pilots basically pick 352 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,880 them up and climb in there or we're 353 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,102 still working , then they'll they'll be 354 00:14:05,102 --> 00:14:07,436 they'll be shipped over into the region . 355 00:14:07,436 --> 00:14:09,658 And then I don't know whether they will 356 00:14:09,658 --> 00:14:12,340 be trucked in or I don't have the 357 00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:14,680 specific , you know , data on exactly 358 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:16,680 how each helicopter is going to get 359 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:18,791 inside . Ukraine . Us pilots at all . 360 00:14:18,791 --> 00:14:20,902 No . You know , U . S . Pilots flying 361 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:22,791 the helicopters in Ukraine on the 362 00:14:22,791 --> 00:14:24,902 nuclear protective event following up 363 00:14:24,902 --> 00:14:27,013 the question , was that a response to 364 00:14:27,013 --> 00:14:29,180 anything specific that we've seen that 365 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:29,040 Russia would consider to do in Ukraine 366 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,984 when it comes to its we we believe 367 00:14:30,984 --> 00:14:33,096 actually that Ukrainians believe it's 368 00:14:33,096 --> 00:14:35,262 it's the prudent thing to do . We have 369 00:14:35,262 --> 00:14:37,690 we've talked about this , we have um 370 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:39,811 talked about indications we've had in 371 00:14:39,811 --> 00:14:43,320 the past weeks ago that the Russians 372 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,570 might resort to the use of chemical or 373 00:14:45,570 --> 00:14:48,390 biological weapons . Uh and so based on 374 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,289 talking with the Ukrainians about 375 00:14:50,289 --> 00:14:52,400 protective gear gear . And again , 376 00:14:52,410 --> 00:14:54,430 keeping in mind that we're we're 377 00:14:54,430 --> 00:14:56,486 looking at operations in a much more 378 00:14:56,486 --> 00:14:58,652 confined space Now , um the Ukrainians 379 00:14:58,652 --> 00:15:00,819 asked for this and and we have it , so 380 00:15:00,819 --> 00:15:02,930 we're going to provide it is it based 381 00:15:02,930 --> 00:15:04,986 on a specific credible threat of the 382 00:15:04,986 --> 00:15:07,590 use in a neighborhood or a particular 383 00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:10,190 area ? No , but it's certainly based on 384 00:15:10,190 --> 00:15:12,460 longstanding concerns we've had about 385 00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:14,571 the potential for the Russians to use 386 00:15:14,571 --> 00:15:16,516 these kinds of weapons . And again 387 00:15:16,516 --> 00:15:18,730 everything on this list uh , was a 388 00:15:18,730 --> 00:15:20,720 result of a conversation with the 389 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,831 Ukrainians themselves about what they 390 00:15:22,831 --> 00:15:24,942 needed ? I can't stress that enough . 391 00:15:24,942 --> 00:15:26,887 We're not foisting stuff upon them 392 00:15:26,887 --> 00:15:29,109 because , you know , we just think it's 393 00:15:29,109 --> 00:15:31,331 a good idea that this is all stuff that 394 00:15:31,331 --> 00:15:30,750 we've talked about with the Ukrainians . 395 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,840 Yeah , the who are you Mike Stone ? I'm 396 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,010 from Reuters . Ok , The howitzers are 397 00:15:37,010 --> 00:15:40,120 those M 777 from the marines and how 398 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,231 the number 18 get arrived at ? Should 399 00:15:42,231 --> 00:15:44,564 we look at additional tranches ? I mean , 400 00:15:44,564 --> 00:15:46,731 I don't I don't have anything to speak 401 00:15:46,731 --> 00:15:48,787 to with additional tranches . I mean 402 00:15:48,787 --> 00:15:48,540 this one is just now getting announced . 403 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,267 I'm not going to rule out the 404 00:15:50,267 --> 00:15:52,489 possibility of additional , however , I 405 00:15:52,489 --> 00:15:55,470 don't have the exact variant available 406 00:15:55,470 --> 00:15:57,570 for you . But there are there are 407 00:15:57,580 --> 00:15:59,580 artillery pieces as you know , very 408 00:15:59,580 --> 00:16:01,670 capable ones . And again , the 409 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:03,781 Ukrainians have made it clear that in 410 00:16:03,781 --> 00:16:06,090 this fight that's coming . Artillery is 411 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:09,160 a critical need , Not just the that 412 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:12,570 the artillery piece itself , but the 413 00:16:12,570 --> 00:16:14,737 rounds that go with it and you can see 414 00:16:14,737 --> 00:16:16,959 there's 40,000 rounds that are going on 415 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:19,014 with this . And and we will be in an 416 00:16:19,014 --> 00:16:18,870 intimate conversation with them going 417 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:20,981 forward . And if they need additional 418 00:16:20,981 --> 00:16:23,092 artillery rounds , clearly the United 419 00:16:23,092 --> 00:16:25,203 States will do what we can to to fill 420 00:16:25,203 --> 00:16:28,990 those needs in the back . Um , 421 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,100 also on the artillery , you know , 422 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:34,040 we've seen Russian forces using 423 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,220 standoff range missiles and artillery 424 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:40,560 against the Ukrainians . Um , is this 425 00:16:40,570 --> 00:16:43,980 a bid to help even the odds by 426 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:46,220 providing Ukraine with with a similar 427 00:16:46,220 --> 00:16:50,190 capability ? It's very much an effort 428 00:16:50,190 --> 00:16:53,080 to give the Ukrainians every possible 429 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,302 advantage in this fight that's coming . 430 00:16:55,302 --> 00:16:57,524 And then second , something interesting 431 00:16:57,524 --> 00:16:59,469 on that list , there's an unmanned 432 00:16:59,469 --> 00:17:01,302 coastal defense vessel . Can you 433 00:17:01,302 --> 00:17:03,191 provide us with a little bit more 434 00:17:03,191 --> 00:17:05,302 detail about what that is . This is ? 435 00:17:05,302 --> 00:17:07,770 Uh yeah , this this is a , it's an 436 00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:10,520 unmanned uh surface vessel 437 00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:13,697 that that can be used for a variety of 438 00:17:13,697 --> 00:17:15,808 purposes in coastal defense . I think 439 00:17:15,808 --> 00:17:17,919 I'll just leave it at that . And it's 440 00:17:17,919 --> 00:17:19,919 it's it's coming from navy stocks . 441 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:22,141 Yeah , but it can be used for a variety 442 00:17:22,141 --> 00:17:24,197 of coastal defense missions . Barb , 443 00:17:24,197 --> 00:17:26,141 you've mentioned several times the 444 00:17:26,141 --> 00:17:28,086 fight that's coming . Can you help 445 00:17:28,086 --> 00:17:30,252 people better understand when you look 446 00:17:30,252 --> 00:17:32,252 at that list , when you look at the 447 00:17:32,252 --> 00:17:34,630 specific threat of the type of combat 448 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,530 in the dumb boss , what is that combat 449 00:17:38,540 --> 00:17:41,250 going to be that leads you to this list ? 450 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:44,320 How does this list address your 451 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,500 assessment of what the combat will be 452 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:48,722 in the , well , the first factor is the 453 00:17:48,722 --> 00:17:51,030 Ukrainians themselves who have , who 454 00:17:51,030 --> 00:17:52,697 have asked for these kinds of 455 00:17:52,697 --> 00:17:54,919 capabilities based on what they believe 456 00:17:54,919 --> 00:17:57,950 they're facing . They will be facing um , 457 00:17:58,340 --> 00:18:01,780 Russian forces that are familiar with 458 00:18:01,780 --> 00:18:03,947 the territory and that part of Ukraine 459 00:18:03,947 --> 00:18:06,002 they've been fighting over for eight 460 00:18:06,002 --> 00:18:08,058 years will likely be replenished and 461 00:18:08,058 --> 00:18:10,169 restock themselves now that they have 462 00:18:10,169 --> 00:18:12,280 left the northern part of the country 463 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,224 and they are now in Belarus and or 464 00:18:14,224 --> 00:18:16,240 Russia refitting resupplying , so 465 00:18:16,250 --> 00:18:18,650 potentially reinforced Russian force 466 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:21,170 there ? Uh so you're you're looking at 467 00:18:21,180 --> 00:18:24,420 even more Russian troops applied to the 468 00:18:24,420 --> 00:18:26,670 Donbas region than they have right now 469 00:18:26,740 --> 00:18:29,700 and they will be resupplied . Um uh 470 00:18:29,710 --> 00:18:32,310 you're looking at uh short supply route 471 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:34,340 lines for the Russians because the 472 00:18:34,340 --> 00:18:36,360 Donbas region borders right up 473 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,249 alongside Russia . So part of the 474 00:18:38,249 --> 00:18:40,360 problem that they had , you know , in 475 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:41,860 the north was was long and 476 00:18:41,860 --> 00:18:44,027 unsustainable lines of communication , 477 00:18:44,027 --> 00:18:46,360 that won't be the same problem for them . 478 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:48,138 The other aspect of this is the 479 00:18:48,138 --> 00:18:50,249 topography and it's been described to 480 00:18:50,249 --> 00:18:53,400 me that part of , of Ukraine as a bit 481 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,344 like Kansas , so it's a little bit 482 00:18:55,344 --> 00:18:57,567 flatter , it's a little bit more open . 483 00:18:57,567 --> 00:19:00,580 Um and it's the kind of place where um 484 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,270 we can anticipate that the Russians 485 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:06,100 will want to use tanks and long range 486 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:08,630 fires , artillery and rocket fire to to 487 00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:10,852 achieve some of their objectives before 488 00:19:10,852 --> 00:19:14,010 committing um ground troops . And so um 489 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:16,380 these capabilities , again , all done 490 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:18,100 in concert with with what the 491 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:19,989 Ukrainians say they need for that 492 00:19:19,989 --> 00:19:22,211 particular kind of fighting . Follow up 493 00:19:22,211 --> 00:19:24,156 on a couple other quick things . I 494 00:19:24,156 --> 00:19:26,267 don't think we best in several days ? 495 00:19:26,267 --> 00:19:28,544 Um , is the secretary and the Chairman , 496 00:19:28,544 --> 00:19:30,767 have they again or still tried to reach 497 00:19:30,767 --> 00:19:32,989 their counterparts ? And has there been 498 00:19:32,989 --> 00:19:35,580 any success on that ? And is that 499 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:38,080 communications phone line still been 500 00:19:38,090 --> 00:19:40,700 even answered by the Russians as far as 501 00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:42,644 I know , the deconfliction line is 502 00:19:42,644 --> 00:19:44,589 still operational . We do check it 503 00:19:44,589 --> 00:19:46,811 every day . I haven't heard any reports 504 00:19:46,811 --> 00:19:49,033 to the contrary that there have been no 505 00:19:49,033 --> 00:19:51,256 checks and there have been any problems 506 00:19:51,256 --> 00:19:50,810 with it . I also haven't heard any 507 00:19:50,810 --> 00:19:53,032 indications that we've had to use it to 508 00:19:53,032 --> 00:19:55,440 transmit any content if you will . I 509 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,700 have no conversations with Minister 510 00:19:57,700 --> 00:20:00,250 shortly to read out today . I don't 511 00:20:00,250 --> 00:20:02,472 know when the last attempt was , but it 512 00:20:02,472 --> 00:20:05,100 wasn't long ago , I think uh less than 513 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:07,620 a week or so ago . And again , there 514 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:09,731 was no interest by the Russians . I I 515 00:20:09,731 --> 00:20:11,842 can't speak for Chairman Milley and I 516 00:20:11,842 --> 00:20:13,676 don't I don't think he's had any 517 00:20:13,676 --> 00:20:15,842 conversations , but I was referring to 518 00:20:15,842 --> 00:20:18,009 the Joint staff on that . Can you tell 519 00:20:18,009 --> 00:20:21,160 us your latest assessment of Russian uh 520 00:20:21,170 --> 00:20:23,800 military morale , both the troops on 521 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,690 the ground and officers , what are , 522 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:28,922 what is your assessment of their morale 523 00:20:28,922 --> 00:20:30,922 as they go into this latest round ? 524 00:20:31,090 --> 00:20:34,340 We'll look barb . I want to be uh you 525 00:20:34,340 --> 00:20:36,284 know , mindful of the fact that we 526 00:20:36,284 --> 00:20:38,173 aren't on the ground with Russian 527 00:20:38,173 --> 00:20:40,229 forces . Uh we we don't have perfect 528 00:20:40,229 --> 00:20:42,710 knowledge of , of unit cohesion at a 529 00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:44,932 tactical level inside the Russian armed 530 00:20:44,932 --> 00:20:47,230 forces . Um So speaking about something 531 00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:49,341 as broad as morale can be a difficult 532 00:20:49,341 --> 00:20:51,508 thing to do when when you're when it's 533 00:20:51,508 --> 00:20:53,674 not your army you're talking about ? I 534 00:20:53,674 --> 00:20:55,841 would just say anecdotally we continue 535 00:20:55,841 --> 00:20:58,008 to see indications that there are unit 536 00:20:58,008 --> 00:21:00,119 cohesion problems that that that many 537 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,341 units are suffering from low morale and 538 00:21:02,341 --> 00:21:04,563 disenchantment by some of their younger 539 00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:08,200 enlisted troops . Um and that um that 540 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,080 they that their leaders are also 541 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,360 frustrated not only with some of their 542 00:21:13,370 --> 00:21:15,481 troops and their troops performance , 543 00:21:15,481 --> 00:21:17,259 but even with their their their 544 00:21:17,259 --> 00:21:19,610 colleagues performance okay on the 545 00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:23,340 training would take place in Poland 546 00:21:23,340 --> 00:21:25,396 Romania or other countries . And can 547 00:21:25,396 --> 00:21:27,284 you do it with the troops who are 548 00:21:27,284 --> 00:21:29,007 already on the ground or their 549 00:21:29,007 --> 00:21:31,229 considerations to send more troops over 550 00:21:31,229 --> 00:21:30,430 to europe ? As for locations , we 551 00:21:30,430 --> 00:21:33,800 haven't uh made that decision yet . It 552 00:21:33,810 --> 00:21:35,810 most likely is going to be multiple 553 00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:37,977 locations . I don't see this happening 554 00:21:37,977 --> 00:21:41,170 at just one place . Um And uh I think 555 00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:43,920 our goal would be to achieve this with 556 00:21:43,930 --> 00:21:45,819 with troops , our troops that are 557 00:21:45,819 --> 00:21:48,890 already there . Yeah . Weapons 558 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:50,890 questions . Are the artillery , Are 559 00:21:50,890 --> 00:21:53,001 those all toad or already going to be 560 00:21:53,001 --> 00:21:55,810 self propelled . The President in his 561 00:21:55,810 --> 00:21:58,690 message today alluded to the transfer 562 00:21:58,690 --> 00:22:01,050 of additional helicopters . What were 563 00:22:01,050 --> 00:22:03,510 the prior helicopters ? I might have 564 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:05,621 missed that . We talked about this at 565 00:22:05,621 --> 00:22:07,954 the very first question of the briefing . 566 00:22:07,954 --> 00:22:09,788 I don't understand that , but he 567 00:22:09,788 --> 00:22:11,454 implied there were additional 568 00:22:11,454 --> 00:22:13,677 helicopters before this . Those are the 569 00:22:13,677 --> 00:22:15,677 additional helicopters . There were 570 00:22:15,677 --> 00:22:18,140 five M I 17 trans transfer 571 00:22:18,940 --> 00:22:22,670 to uh to Ukraine earlier 572 00:22:22,820 --> 00:22:25,170 this year and now another 11 573 00:22:26,540 --> 00:22:29,870 1 540,000 rounds . Can you double check 574 00:22:29,870 --> 00:22:32,010 to see if any of those are those GPS 575 00:22:32,010 --> 00:22:34,420 guided excalibur wrongs . Those are 576 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:36,476 very precision weapons that the army 577 00:22:36,476 --> 00:22:38,910 uses . Yeah . Look I'm not I'll take 578 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:41,077 the question but I don't know that I'm 579 00:22:41,077 --> 00:22:43,410 going to have a specific answer for you . 580 00:22:43,410 --> 00:22:45,410 40,000 rounds to go with these with 581 00:22:45,410 --> 00:22:47,577 these 18 houses and if we need to send 582 00:22:47,577 --> 00:22:49,799 more will send more . Yeah anybody else 583 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:51,132 in the room . Okay Jeff 584 00:22:59,140 --> 00:23:01,362 sorry about that . Um I'm sorry if this 585 00:23:01,362 --> 00:23:03,584 has already been asked but we have seen 586 00:23:03,584 --> 00:23:05,640 some reports yesterday that the semi 587 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,696 seventeen's would not be included in 588 00:23:07,696 --> 00:23:09,918 this package and now they are . Can can 589 00:23:09,918 --> 00:23:12,380 you explain the where things stand ? Um 590 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:14,820 I cannot explain reporting based on 591 00:23:14,820 --> 00:23:17,042 leaked documents . All I can do is talk 592 00:23:17,042 --> 00:23:18,820 to you about what the president 593 00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:20,653 authorized today . The president 594 00:23:20,653 --> 00:23:22,487 authorized 11 M . I . 17 today . 595 00:23:24,140 --> 00:23:25,760 Let's see , terra cotta . 596 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,207 Thank you . Um I wanted to get back to 597 00:23:30,207 --> 00:23:33,840 the helicopters . Um sending aircraft 598 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,200 to Afghanistan by this administration 599 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,311 had previously kind of been seen as a 600 00:23:39,311 --> 00:23:41,256 stopping point . It seemed for its 601 00:23:41,256 --> 00:23:43,920 escalatory potential . But you 602 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,920 mentioned that there were five that 603 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,976 were sent previously where they sent 604 00:23:47,976 --> 00:23:50,780 before Russia instigated this this 605 00:23:50,780 --> 00:23:53,002 invasion . And then if you could talk a 606 00:23:53,002 --> 00:23:55,660 little bit more about it seems like now 607 00:23:55,660 --> 00:23:57,640 because of Russia's brutality in 608 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,910 Ukraine there's less of a concern about 609 00:24:00,910 --> 00:24:03,140 what Russia might find is escalatory 610 00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:05,850 anymore . I'm sorry but I'm just gonna 611 00:24:05,850 --> 00:24:07,906 have to challenge the premise of the 612 00:24:07,906 --> 00:24:10,017 question . It's not about uh it's not 613 00:24:10,017 --> 00:24:12,072 that we aren't still concerned about 614 00:24:12,072 --> 00:24:14,017 escalation management . That's the 615 00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:16,239 responsible thing to do . And and every 616 00:24:16,239 --> 00:24:15,400 decision we're making and I've said 617 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,344 this before , every decision we're 618 00:24:17,344 --> 00:24:21,290 making is we we balance the needs of 619 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:23,179 Ukraine to defend itself with our 620 00:24:23,179 --> 00:24:24,870 responsibilities are absolute 621 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:26,710 responsibilities to think about 622 00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:28,599 escalation management . And if we 623 00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:30,932 weren't you should challenge us on that . 624 00:24:30,932 --> 00:24:32,766 But these decisions are all done 625 00:24:32,766 --> 00:24:35,099 prudently . I don't know the exact date . 626 00:24:35,099 --> 00:24:37,043 The previous five helicopters were 627 00:24:37,043 --> 00:24:36,490 transferred . I'll see if we can find 628 00:24:36,490 --> 00:24:40,300 that . But but these are these are 629 00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:42,532 all items that the Ukrainians have said 630 00:24:42,532 --> 00:24:44,699 that they that they could use and need 631 00:24:44,699 --> 00:24:46,810 um and that we can get them readily . 632 00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:49,420 And so we're focused on doing that mike 633 00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:52,430 breast asked and answered 634 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,390 heather from us . And I I thank you so 635 00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:59,612 much . Um A couple of questions first I 636 00:24:59,612 --> 00:25:01,779 was wondering if you have any comments 637 00:25:01,779 --> 00:25:03,946 on the reports that Russian troops are 638 00:25:03,946 --> 00:25:07,190 taking merchants from their ships um 639 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,367 and saying that the Ukrainians are the 640 00:25:09,367 --> 00:25:11,311 ones removing them . Um And then I 641 00:25:11,311 --> 00:25:13,533 wondered if you had any comments on the 642 00:25:13,533 --> 00:25:15,422 fact that India and uh the United 643 00:25:15,422 --> 00:25:17,256 States talked about using indian 644 00:25:17,256 --> 00:25:19,230 shipyards to help prepare american 645 00:25:19,230 --> 00:25:21,530 ships today . Sorry heather , I don't 646 00:25:21,530 --> 00:25:23,586 have anything on your first question 647 00:25:23,586 --> 00:25:25,697 and I'll take your second question um 648 00:25:25,697 --> 00:25:27,900 and see if I can get back to you Jared 649 00:25:27,910 --> 00:25:31,730 from alma mater . Hi Mr 650 00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:34,170 Kirby um The fifth fleet commander . 651 00:25:34,170 --> 00:25:36,281 Vice Admiral brad cooper said earlier 652 00:25:36,281 --> 00:25:38,710 today . The I'm sorry detract from the 653 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,420 main focus here . The combined maritime 654 00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:44,020 force would stand up a new joint task 655 00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:46,076 force in the Red Sea and the gulf of 656 00:25:46,076 --> 00:25:48,710 Aden . Um Will this unit be tasked with 657 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:51,640 interdicting arms shipments from Iran's 658 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,640 Irgc ? Yemen's Houthis and I have a 659 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,751 follow up to the fifth fleet into the 660 00:25:55,751 --> 00:25:57,640 navy to speak to that one , Jared 661 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,807 Thanks . And I'm just wondering if you 662 00:26:01,807 --> 00:26:03,807 can confirm . The Guardian reported 663 00:26:03,807 --> 00:26:05,751 earlier this week that Iran backed 664 00:26:05,751 --> 00:26:07,807 militias in Iraq have helped smuggle 665 00:26:07,807 --> 00:26:10,230 RPGS and other arms to Russia via Iran 666 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,650 including possibly uh the Iranians 667 00:26:13,660 --> 00:26:15,790 authorizing the sending of uh an 668 00:26:15,790 --> 00:26:18,340 Iranian made air defense system . Do 669 00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:19,896 you have any comment or any 670 00:26:19,896 --> 00:26:22,229 confirmation on that ? Thanks from that ? 671 00:26:22,229 --> 00:26:24,451 Either Jared ? Uh , I'll have to uh see 672 00:26:24,451 --> 00:26:26,507 if we have anything on that . I mean 673 00:26:26,507 --> 00:26:28,729 obviously we've seen Iran's support for 674 00:26:28,729 --> 00:26:30,618 proxy groups and terrorist groups 675 00:26:30,618 --> 00:26:32,729 throughout the region , but I can't I 676 00:26:32,729 --> 00:26:35,062 can't give you anything on that . Louis , 677 00:26:35,062 --> 00:26:37,173 did you have one ? Yeah , a couple of 678 00:26:37,173 --> 00:26:39,173 questions . Um , we've talked about 679 00:26:39,173 --> 00:26:41,340 this phone conversation from last week 680 00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:45,250 with jake Sullivan Zelinsky team . Um , 681 00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:47,800 and General Milley , how much of this 682 00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:51,360 was part of requested by the Ukrainians ? 683 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:54,800 Like full on by the Ukrainians . Was 684 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,911 there more that they wanted that they 685 00:26:56,911 --> 00:26:58,967 didn't get in this that maybe you're 686 00:26:58,967 --> 00:27:00,967 redirected to other countries . For 687 00:27:00,967 --> 00:27:03,022 example , like the U . K . Which has 688 00:27:03,022 --> 00:27:05,960 provided coastal coastal defense system , 689 00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:08,192 missile systems as opposed to something 690 00:27:08,192 --> 00:27:10,359 that's not , I don't have a readout of 691 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,581 that call . I'd refer you to the Nsc to 692 00:27:12,581 --> 00:27:14,581 speak to that . I can tell you that 693 00:27:14,581 --> 00:27:16,803 Secretary Austin speaks very frequently 694 00:27:16,803 --> 00:27:18,970 with Minister Reznikoff . You saw that 695 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,914 the president spoke with President 696 00:27:20,914 --> 00:27:23,026 Zelensky again just today . Uh , this 697 00:27:23,026 --> 00:27:24,859 list is comes right out of those 698 00:27:24,859 --> 00:27:27,370 conversations . Um as I said earlier , 699 00:27:27,380 --> 00:27:29,420 the Ukrainians have asked for other 700 00:27:29,420 --> 00:27:31,750 systems and capabilities that we simply 701 00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:34,590 don't have uh and that we are working 702 00:27:34,590 --> 00:27:38,170 with allies and partners to help um uh 703 00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:41,030 to help them get those kinds of systems 704 00:27:41,270 --> 00:27:43,437 into Ukraine . But those nation states 705 00:27:43,437 --> 00:27:45,659 have to speak for themselves . I'll let 706 00:27:45,659 --> 00:27:48,160 the Ukrainians speak for whatever uh 707 00:27:48,170 --> 00:27:50,226 specifics they had on their shopping 708 00:27:50,226 --> 00:27:52,448 list . I'm not gonna do that for them . 709 00:27:52,448 --> 00:27:54,503 And I'm certainly not gonna talk for 710 00:27:54,503 --> 00:27:54,270 other countries that are also providing 711 00:27:54,270 --> 00:27:56,048 systems that they have that are 712 00:27:56,048 --> 00:27:58,250 available to them . Um , what I can 713 00:27:58,250 --> 00:28:00,580 tell you again , two things . One , 714 00:28:00,590 --> 00:28:02,740 this list came directly out of a 715 00:28:02,740 --> 00:28:04,740 conversation multiple conversations 716 00:28:04,740 --> 00:28:06,740 with the Ukrainians in the last few 717 00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:09,240 days as we began to see the Russians 718 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,407 now start to Reprioritize the don boss 719 00:28:11,407 --> 00:28:15,150 fight . And and uh and 720 00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:17,470 to uh we're going to have those 721 00:28:17,470 --> 00:28:19,470 conversations going forward . We'll 722 00:28:19,470 --> 00:28:21,770 we'll iterate this and there may be 723 00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:24,350 additional uh drawdown that's 724 00:28:24,350 --> 00:28:26,350 authorized there there there may be 725 00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:28,517 additional shipments of of other kinds 726 00:28:28,517 --> 00:28:30,461 of systems and then I guess number 727 00:28:30,461 --> 00:28:32,350 three , um the secretary has been 728 00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:35,340 tireless uh in personally working with 729 00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:38,200 allies and partners to help them also 730 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,311 flesh out some of those needs for for 731 00:28:40,311 --> 00:28:42,256 capabilities . We don't have , for 732 00:28:42,256 --> 00:28:44,650 instance , the S 300 that the Slovakian 733 00:28:44,650 --> 00:28:46,650 government announced that they were 734 00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:48,761 gonna send , I mean , that that was a 735 00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:50,983 result of obviously a lot of great work 736 00:28:50,983 --> 00:28:53,150 in Slovakia , but also the secretaries 737 00:28:53,150 --> 00:28:55,206 uh personal diplomatic efforts to to 738 00:28:55,206 --> 00:28:57,261 work that work that closely . I also 739 00:28:57,261 --> 00:28:59,390 heard from officials about the 740 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,360 significant ramp up and how quickly the 741 00:29:02,370 --> 00:29:05,170 previous materials have been getting to 742 00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:07,570 into the Ukrainians , um and the great 743 00:29:07,570 --> 00:29:09,237 logistical effort that's been 744 00:29:09,237 --> 00:29:11,348 undertaken to make that happen . Some 745 00:29:11,348 --> 00:29:13,626 of these , this is a much heavier lift , 746 00:29:13,626 --> 00:29:16,840 literally because some of these uh I 747 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,729 mean , when you move in an entire 748 00:29:18,729 --> 00:29:20,896 division , let's say is worth of other 749 00:29:20,896 --> 00:29:23,007 personnel carriers usually have to do 750 00:29:23,007 --> 00:29:25,250 that via ship , which can take a longer 751 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:27,250 time than airlift . I mean , are we 752 00:29:27,250 --> 00:29:29,670 going to see that similar optempo that 753 00:29:29,670 --> 00:29:31,781 you've seen for these smaller weapons 754 00:29:31,781 --> 00:29:33,892 systems for something like this ? The 755 00:29:33,892 --> 00:29:36,059 short answer is yes . Louis . I mean , 756 00:29:36,059 --> 00:29:35,970 look , I I can't tell you , as we talk 757 00:29:35,970 --> 00:29:38,710 at 3 15 here on Wednesday afternoon , 758 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:40,821 exactly when the first plane with the 759 00:29:40,821 --> 00:29:43,043 first items on this list are gonna lift 760 00:29:43,043 --> 00:29:45,210 off and where that's gonna come from . 761 00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:47,321 Not all of them may not all of it has 762 00:29:47,321 --> 00:29:49,432 to come from the United States . Um , 763 00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:52,830 but but I will tell you that the 764 00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:54,941 Secretary is committed to moving this 765 00:29:54,941 --> 00:29:57,052 material as quickly as possible . And 766 00:29:57,052 --> 00:29:58,997 again , let's go back to the other 767 00:29:58,997 --> 00:30:01,219 eight . The 1st $800 million ? Uh , Not 768 00:30:01,219 --> 00:30:03,386 the first , but the last time that the 769 00:30:03,386 --> 00:30:05,497 president authorized an amount of the 770 00:30:05,497 --> 00:30:07,830 800 million . That I mean that's 771 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:10,780 closing out here in just a few days . 772 00:30:10,790 --> 00:30:13,070 It's incredible . And I can tell you 773 00:30:13,070 --> 00:30:15,750 that the secretary has made it clear to 774 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:17,917 the department that he wants that same 775 00:30:17,917 --> 00:30:20,350 sense of urgency to apply to this as 776 00:30:20,350 --> 00:30:23,410 well . So I can't I can't give you a a 777 00:30:23,410 --> 00:30:26,060 system right now . And I'm sorry detail 778 00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:28,282 right now about the shipment schedule . 779 00:30:28,282 --> 00:30:30,760 But as we can , I certainly will . All 780 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,490 right . Yeah . The senior defense 781 00:30:33,490 --> 00:30:35,434 official recently said that Russia 782 00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:37,820 sales between 80 to 85% of its combat 783 00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:39,876 power available to them . I was just 784 00:30:39,876 --> 00:30:42,042 wondering if you had an update to that 785 00:30:42,042 --> 00:30:44,209 number . I've gotta be careful here at 786 00:30:44,209 --> 00:30:46,560 the podium detailing um , 787 00:30:48,410 --> 00:30:50,750 issues of intelligence like that on 788 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,000 Russian combat power . I will tell you 789 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,700 this though , that they still have a 790 00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,180 significant amount of combat power and 791 00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:01,402 combat capabilities available to them . 792 00:31:01,402 --> 00:31:03,513 As we talked about earlier . They are 793 00:31:03,513 --> 00:31:05,624 moved , they have moved forces out of 794 00:31:05,624 --> 00:31:05,590 the north . They're going to refit 795 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,822 resupply those forces and we believe in 796 00:31:07,822 --> 00:31:09,878 fact we've already seen that they're 797 00:31:09,878 --> 00:31:12,550 pushing some of those forces back into 798 00:31:12,550 --> 00:31:15,260 Ukraine just to the north of the Don 799 00:31:15,260 --> 00:31:17,720 boss . Um , and we would expect that 800 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,300 reinforcement to continue . Um , but 801 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,540 again , enumerating that would would 802 00:31:22,550 --> 00:31:24,720 probably not be something I would want 803 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,887 to do from the podium . Yeah . Can you 804 00:31:26,887 --> 00:31:28,664 get a fact sheet for us on this 805 00:31:28,664 --> 00:31:31,250 unmanned combat vessel ? There's none 806 00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:33,250 of the navy inventory . They're all 807 00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:35,361 experimental . How do we know how the 808 00:31:35,361 --> 00:31:37,472 thing even works ? But I'm not asking 809 00:31:37,472 --> 00:31:39,583 you now for details but I'm not gonna 810 00:31:39,583 --> 00:31:41,861 I'm not gonna promise you a fact sheet . 811 00:31:41,861 --> 00:31:43,972 I can't promise you the thing works . 812 00:31:43,972 --> 00:31:46,083 You can't . Yes I can . So you should 813 00:31:46,083 --> 00:31:45,960 get a fact sheet on it because it's a 814 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,182 new weapon . I appreciate your interest 815 00:31:48,182 --> 00:31:51,120 in national security . I can assure you 816 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,080 it works . Yes . Um This 817 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,840 is a list of asks from the Ukrainian 818 00:31:57,850 --> 00:32:00,630 government but you know to louise 819 00:32:00,630 --> 00:32:02,810 question there are other things they 820 00:32:02,810 --> 00:32:04,810 would like to have that the U . S . 821 00:32:04,810 --> 00:32:07,100 Does have in its inventory , other 822 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,322 kinds of jet fighters or whatever . And 823 00:32:09,322 --> 00:32:11,740 so is this is it more accurately they 824 00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:14,270 haven't asked for jet fighters that are 825 00:32:14,270 --> 00:32:16,360 in the door . Yeah I think that they 826 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,920 would like more jet fighters that 827 00:32:18,930 --> 00:32:21,097 aren't that are in the US inventory or 828 00:32:21,097 --> 00:32:23,330 at least have hinted at that and other 829 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,831 weaponry . I'm just wondering is this 830 00:32:25,831 --> 00:32:28,560 more like the agreed upon list between 831 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,120 the U . S . And Ukraine ? Not just what 832 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,130 they want because it's seems like a 833 00:32:33,130 --> 00:32:35,910 wish list but clearly it's curated . I 834 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:39,350 mean um but it very much reflects what 835 00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:41,550 they what they need and it's it's a 836 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,790 it's a growth outgrowth of actual no 837 00:32:44,790 --> 00:32:47,012 kidding discussions that we've had with 838 00:32:47,012 --> 00:32:50,060 Ukraine um being very candid about what 839 00:32:50,060 --> 00:32:52,227 we have and what we can make available 840 00:32:52,227 --> 00:32:54,004 to them and what they need . So 841 00:32:54,004 --> 00:32:55,893 certainly there's a an element of 842 00:32:55,893 --> 00:32:57,949 curation here . You would think that 843 00:32:57,949 --> 00:32:57,940 that would be the appropriate thing to 844 00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:00,450 do and they have other capabilities 845 00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:02,760 again that the that we simply can't 846 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,927 help them with , but other nations can 847 00:33:04,927 --> 00:33:06,927 and and the secretary is personally 848 00:33:06,927 --> 00:33:10,630 working that yeah , all these 849 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,670 weapons available right now , or do you 850 00:33:13,670 --> 00:33:16,480 have to wait for the manufacturers to 851 00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:18,870 produce them ? These are all available 852 00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:22,010 in our stocks right now . Yeah , Okay , 853 00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:26,020 I'll get location . So you've 854 00:33:26,030 --> 00:33:28,141 you've you've laid this all out . You 855 00:33:28,141 --> 00:33:31,150 continue to lay it all out as for the 856 00:33:31,150 --> 00:33:33,261 fight in Donbas ? Right ? I mean , if 857 00:33:33,261 --> 00:33:36,620 I'm understanding you correctly , how 858 00:33:36,620 --> 00:33:38,860 is it not too late ? This is going to 859 00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:41,810 take a while to get there . Both the U . 860 00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:44,032 S . And Ukraine have known the fight in 861 00:33:44,032 --> 00:33:47,170 the Donbas is coming , How will how 862 00:33:47,170 --> 00:33:49,540 will this not be too late ? We are 863 00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:51,630 going to move this as fast as we can 864 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:54,570 barb and I would remind you that that 865 00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:57,580 it's it's not like the other material 866 00:33:57,580 --> 00:33:59,524 that we've been sending isn't also 867 00:33:59,524 --> 00:34:01,720 being used or has been useful in the 868 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,770 Donbass . It has been but in 869 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,496 recognition of what the Russians are 870 00:34:07,496 --> 00:34:09,662 preparing to do , they're not doing it 871 00:34:09,662 --> 00:34:12,760 now , they're not uh fully up up 872 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:17,040 up to readiness for this renewed push 873 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,040 they want to put in the Donbas , we 874 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,818 recognize that and we're taking 875 00:34:20,818 --> 00:34:23,180 advantage of every day , every hour to 876 00:34:23,180 --> 00:34:25,480 get this stuff there as fast as we can 877 00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:29,270 because the administration has been 878 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:31,070 very public . The Russian to 879 00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:33,310 resupplying retrofitting and moving 880 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:35,960 everything towards the Don boss . 881 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,110 That's So what's your assessment on how 882 00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:41,460 much time you have ? I'm not gonna 883 00:34:41,470 --> 00:34:44,000 detail that kind of stuff here at the 884 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,170 podium , but we have a good sense of 885 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:50,290 of Russian 886 00:34:51,140 --> 00:34:53,580 efforts to resupply and refitted to 887 00:34:53,580 --> 00:34:55,720 reinforce , as I just told most , we 888 00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:58,310 already have seen that in some cases 889 00:34:58,310 --> 00:35:00,780 they are reinforcing now . Um look , 890 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:03,560 barb , I get the and I appreciate the 891 00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:06,962 the seriousness of the question . We're 892 00:35:06,962 --> 00:35:09,350 aware of the clock and we know time is 893 00:35:09,350 --> 00:35:12,190 not our friend and that's why even 894 00:35:12,190 --> 00:35:16,170 before this was announced today , 895 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,740 we have been moving at very , very fast 896 00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:21,670 speed . All the other security 897 00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:23,892 assistance that we've been providing at 898 00:35:23,892 --> 00:35:26,660 frankly at an unprecedented rate . And 899 00:35:27,340 --> 00:35:29,660 the secretary has every expectation and 900 00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:31,716 has conveyed that expectation to the 901 00:35:31,716 --> 00:35:33,938 department that this material will move 902 00:35:33,938 --> 00:35:35,938 with the same sense of alacrity and 903 00:35:35,938 --> 00:35:38,480 speed . Weird . We are , I would also 904 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,591 remind were in constant conversations 905 00:35:40,591 --> 00:35:42,758 with the Ukrainians . Everything we've 906 00:35:42,758 --> 00:35:44,924 been sending is based on conversations 907 00:35:44,924 --> 00:35:46,758 with them and I don't think it's 908 00:35:46,758 --> 00:35:49,120 helpful for anybody now on the 13th of 909 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,860 april to be able to predict perfectly 910 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,300 what what happens next week , all we 911 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:56,900 can do is do what we're doing in the 912 00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:58,956 moment . Talking to the Ukrainians , 913 00:35:58,956 --> 00:36:01,178 seeing what they need and moving things 914 00:36:01,178 --> 00:36:03,344 as fast as we can . I got time for one 915 00:36:03,344 --> 00:36:05,567 more . I think you had your hand up . I 916 00:36:05,567 --> 00:36:05,390 did . Yes . So you answered my question 917 00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:07,710 about the metrics for delivering this 918 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,887 aid . But when these conversations are 919 00:36:09,887 --> 00:36:12,109 held , are there discussions about what 920 00:36:12,109 --> 00:36:13,998 could be deemed as something that 921 00:36:13,998 --> 00:36:16,220 Russia might retaliate against in terms 922 00:36:16,220 --> 00:36:18,442 of , is this may be too much to send to 923 00:36:18,442 --> 00:36:20,220 Ukraine . I mean , what are the 924 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:22,387 conversations going on in the pentagon 925 00:36:22,387 --> 00:36:24,331 about a potential retaliation from 926 00:36:24,331 --> 00:36:26,276 Putin against us ? I mean , look , 927 00:36:26,276 --> 00:36:28,590 we're always , we never lose our focus 928 00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:30,646 on force protection or being able to 929 00:36:30,646 --> 00:36:32,868 defend ourselves or our allies . I mean 930 00:36:32,868 --> 00:36:35,034 that's why we fluent fluent in another 931 00:36:35,034 --> 00:36:36,812 20,000 american troops onto the 932 00:36:36,812 --> 00:36:38,923 european continent . Uh , in just the 933 00:36:38,923 --> 00:36:41,350 last what , 68 weeks . Um , uh , 934 00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:45,550 the risks of escalation beyond Ukraine 935 00:36:45,550 --> 00:36:48,100 and um , and in a more deadly way is 936 00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:50,211 something we're constantly looking at 937 00:36:50,211 --> 00:36:52,100 and constantly talking about as I 938 00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:54,322 answered to . I think it was Sylvie . I 939 00:36:54,322 --> 00:36:56,322 mean escalation management is a big 940 00:36:56,322 --> 00:36:58,656 part of leadership here at the pentagon , 941 00:36:58,656 --> 00:37:00,822 Not just with respect to Ukraine , but 942 00:37:00,822 --> 00:37:03,044 all around the world . Um , that's what 943 00:37:03,044 --> 00:37:05,211 we get paid to do . So we're certainly 944 00:37:05,211 --> 00:37:07,378 factoring in those concerns as , as we 945 00:37:07,378 --> 00:37:09,600 work with the Ukrainians , but the main 946 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,767 focus is helping Ukraine defend itself 947 00:37:11,767 --> 00:37:13,878 and getting them the kinds of systems 948 00:37:13,878 --> 00:37:15,767 that they need most okay , Tony . 949 00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:18,120 Another one . You're killing me . 950 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,660 Smalls go ahead . 951 00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:24,420 The last line on the claymore mines , 952 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,680 it's got consistent with the Ottawa 953 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,740 blank Ottawa senators , Ottawa Treaty . 954 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:32,341 What is it ? Thank you for noting the 955 00:37:32,341 --> 00:37:34,470 typo the Ottawa , the Ottawa Mine 956 00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:38,250 Treaty , Layman's language it . For 957 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:41,360 signatory nations they agreed to not 958 00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:45,180 purchase or transfer or accumulate 959 00:37:45,210 --> 00:37:47,460 antipersonnel mines . They can't 960 00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:49,627 transfer these . They have to use them 961 00:37:49,627 --> 00:37:51,682 or destroy it . Clay more minds . If 962 00:37:51,682 --> 00:37:53,627 you look at the treaty claim , our 963 00:37:53,627 --> 00:37:53,250 minds are exempted from the treaty . 964 00:37:53,930 --> 00:37:56,150 Okay . Thanks everybody appreciate it .