1 00:00:00,870 --> 00:00:04,540 Nice . Okay . 2 00:00:04,550 --> 00:00:07,340 Hi , good afternoon everyone . Um Happy 3 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:09,830 friday as well joining us today is 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,630 undersecretary of Defense for 5 00:00:11,630 --> 00:00:13,920 acquisition and sustainment Dr Bill 6 00:00:13,930 --> 00:00:16,740 Plante and Deputy undersecretary of 7 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:19,510 Defense for policy , Miss Sasha baker , 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,760 Dr La Plante and Miss baker will each 9 00:00:21,770 --> 00:00:23,826 open with a statement and then we'll 10 00:00:23,826 --> 00:00:25,881 take questions from the room and the 11 00:00:25,881 --> 00:00:27,992 phones for Q and A . We'll have about 12 00:00:27,992 --> 00:00:30,159 30 minutes so we'll do our best to get 13 00:00:30,159 --> 00:00:32,381 to as many questions as we can and with 14 00:00:32,381 --> 00:00:34,548 that I'll turn it over to dr thank you 15 00:00:34,548 --> 00:00:36,548 Sabrina and before we dive into the 16 00:00:36,548 --> 00:00:38,603 questions when it quickly provided a 17 00:00:38,603 --> 00:00:40,381 couple of updates on recent and 18 00:00:40,381 --> 00:00:42,548 anticipated contracting actions mostly 19 00:00:42,548 --> 00:00:44,603 related to Ukraine to meet Ukraine's 20 00:00:44,603 --> 00:00:46,770 evolving requirements were continue to 21 00:00:46,770 --> 00:00:46,400 work every day with our allies and 22 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,400 partners provide key capabilities . 23 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,622 Secretary Austin announced yesterday in 24 00:00:50,622 --> 00:00:52,844 Ramstein that president president biden 25 00:00:52,844 --> 00:00:55,120 approved the 20th drawdown of equipment 26 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,160 from D . O . D . Inventories for 27 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,049 Ukraine and that's the 20th since 28 00:00:59,049 --> 00:01:02,450 august of 2021 . This package valued at 29 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:05,530 over $675 million or up to excuse me , 30 00:01:05,540 --> 00:01:07,540 includes additional guided multiple 31 00:01:07,540 --> 00:01:09,707 launch rocket systems sometimes called 32 00:01:09,707 --> 00:01:12,050 Himmler's 105 millimeter howitzers , 33 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:15,530 artillery ammunition and more as we 34 00:01:15,530 --> 00:01:17,363 work with industry to accelerate 35 00:01:17,363 --> 00:01:19,197 production on both replenishment 36 00:01:19,197 --> 00:01:21,308 systems and direct procurements under 37 00:01:21,308 --> 00:01:23,474 the United Ukraine Security Assistance 38 00:01:23,474 --> 00:01:25,363 initiative or US ai we're using a 39 00:01:25,363 --> 00:01:27,308 number of tools to get the funding 40 00:01:27,308 --> 00:01:29,474 moving . Uh and the contracting happen 41 00:01:29,474 --> 00:01:31,360 quickly . These include using uh 42 00:01:31,370 --> 00:01:33,610 contracting mechanisms called things 43 00:01:33,610 --> 00:01:36,010 like definite ties contracting actions 44 00:01:36,010 --> 00:01:38,066 sometimes called you caS . What that 45 00:01:38,066 --> 00:01:40,470 allows you to do deliberately is to get 46 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,540 industry working on initial contract 47 00:01:42,540 --> 00:01:44,707 before we definite ties it and you can 48 00:01:44,707 --> 00:01:46,929 put a yuca together within a week . And 49 00:01:46,929 --> 00:01:49,040 we're doing that . We also are making 50 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,262 use of indefinite delivery , indefinite 51 00:01:51,262 --> 00:01:53,484 quantity contract or I . D . I . Q . If 52 00:01:53,484 --> 00:01:55,540 you have I . D . IiKE us and we have 53 00:01:55,540 --> 00:01:57,707 many of them . What you can do is just 54 00:01:57,707 --> 00:01:59,929 add task orders to them very quickly to 55 00:01:59,929 --> 00:02:02,151 get get equipment on contract to date . 56 00:02:02,151 --> 00:02:04,373 Approximately 1.2 billion is already on 57 00:02:04,373 --> 00:02:06,596 contract . Of the 4.8 billion committed 58 00:02:06,596 --> 00:02:08,651 through U . S . A . I . And then for 59 00:02:08,651 --> 00:02:10,540 replenishment , an additional 1.2 60 00:02:10,540 --> 00:02:12,484 billion is on contract of the over 61 00:02:12,484 --> 00:02:14,373 seven billion that is notified to 62 00:02:14,373 --> 00:02:16,151 contract . Congress excuse me . 63 00:02:16,151 --> 00:02:18,262 Throughout the remainder of the month 64 00:02:18,262 --> 00:02:19,929 we expect to announce several 65 00:02:19,929 --> 00:02:22,151 additional awards . We remain committed 66 00:02:22,151 --> 00:02:23,984 to getting things on contract as 67 00:02:23,984 --> 00:02:26,151 quickly as possible ultimately to send 68 00:02:26,151 --> 00:02:28,373 that clear and persistent demand signal 69 00:02:28,373 --> 00:02:30,207 to our partners in industry . As 70 00:02:30,207 --> 00:02:31,984 Secretary Austin also announced 71 00:02:31,984 --> 00:02:31,770 yesterday , I will be chairing a 72 00:02:31,770 --> 00:02:33,659 meeting of the National armaments 73 00:02:33,659 --> 00:02:35,659 Directors to discuss how the Global 74 00:02:35,659 --> 00:02:37,881 Defense industrial base can continue to 75 00:02:37,881 --> 00:02:39,881 support Ukraine in the near mid and 76 00:02:39,881 --> 00:02:41,881 long term . This special session on 77 00:02:41,881 --> 00:02:44,103 industrial production will be conducted 78 00:02:44,103 --> 00:02:45,992 under the auspices of the Ukraine 79 00:02:45,992 --> 00:02:48,159 Defense Contact Group , which includes 80 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:50,381 more than 50 countries . I look forward 81 00:02:50,381 --> 00:02:52,437 to discussing how we can continue to 82 00:02:52,437 --> 00:02:54,603 work together to ramp up production of 83 00:02:54,603 --> 00:02:56,603 key capabilities and resolve supply 84 00:02:56,603 --> 00:02:58,048 chain issues and increase 85 00:02:58,048 --> 00:03:00,270 interoperability and interchangeability 86 00:03:00,270 --> 00:03:02,492 of our systems uh with that , I'll turn 87 00:03:02,492 --> 00:03:05,330 it over to MS baker . Thanks Bill and 88 00:03:05,330 --> 00:03:07,497 thanks everyone for joining us today . 89 00:03:07,497 --> 00:03:10,370 Uh as Dr La Plante said yesterday , the 90 00:03:10,370 --> 00:03:12,592 secretary announced that the department 91 00:03:12,592 --> 00:03:14,759 will provide an additional 675 million 92 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:16,814 in security assistance for Ukraine . 93 00:03:16,814 --> 00:03:18,981 And and again , as as Bill mentioned , 94 00:03:18,981 --> 00:03:21,100 this represents the 20th drawdown 95 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:23,267 package we've provided to Ukraine . It 96 00:03:23,267 --> 00:03:25,750 includes uh equipment as Bill described 97 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,760 uh that the Ukrainians have already 98 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,816 demonstrated in many cases that they 99 00:03:29,816 --> 00:03:32,580 can use to great effect Uh with with 100 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:34,990 this announcement , our our total 101 00:03:34,990 --> 00:03:38,600 commitment uh to Ukraine comes to $15.2 102 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,600 billion 103 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,470 14.5 billion that's 104 00:03:43,470 --> 00:03:46,450 been provided since February . We think 105 00:03:46,450 --> 00:03:48,930 this underscores our our unwavering 106 00:03:48,930 --> 00:03:51,280 support for Ukraine as it continues to 107 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,391 defend its sovereignty in the face of 108 00:03:53,391 --> 00:03:55,558 Russian aggression . We believe at the 109 00:03:55,558 --> 00:03:57,770 end of the day , that Russia's efforts 110 00:03:57,770 --> 00:04:00,103 have not succeeded and will not succeed . 111 00:04:00,103 --> 00:04:02,610 And when it comes to helping Ukraine to 112 00:04:02,610 --> 00:04:05,120 defend itself , and when it comes to 113 00:04:05,130 --> 00:04:07,186 making sure that there's significant 114 00:04:07,186 --> 00:04:09,910 pressure on Russia to end this conflict , 115 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,031 when it comes to making sure that our 116 00:04:12,031 --> 00:04:14,850 own alliances as strong and as resolute 117 00:04:14,850 --> 00:04:16,950 as it can be , to deter Russian 118 00:04:16,950 --> 00:04:19,172 aggression . I think what you're seeing 119 00:04:19,172 --> 00:04:21,480 now is Israel unity in action as 120 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,424 represented by the contact group . 121 00:04:23,424 --> 00:04:25,840 Meeting earlier this week . An 122 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:27,950 incredible resolve from our allies , 123 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:29,672 from our partners and from the 124 00:04:29,672 --> 00:04:31,894 Ukrainian people in particular , really 125 00:04:31,894 --> 00:04:34,180 at every level . Um , so with that turn 126 00:04:34,180 --> 00:04:36,013 it back , Sabrina to you for any 127 00:04:36,013 --> 00:04:38,013 questions . Great , thank you . Our 128 00:04:38,013 --> 00:04:40,236 first question we're going to take from 129 00:04:40,236 --> 00:04:42,347 lita Baldor from a p I believe you're 130 00:04:42,347 --> 00:04:45,670 on the phone . Yes , thanks so much . 131 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,280 Um , one sort of detail and then a 132 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:50,990 broader question um , of all of the 133 00:04:50,990 --> 00:04:53,640 funding um that you outlined , um , 134 00:04:53,650 --> 00:04:55,650 including on the chart that you all 135 00:04:55,650 --> 00:04:58,570 sent out , um , does any of that , or 136 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:01,250 how much of it would expire at the end 137 00:05:01,250 --> 00:05:03,510 of the fiscal year ? Um , so at the end 138 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:07,095 of the month or is me the bulk of it , 139 00:05:07,105 --> 00:05:09,395 um , sort of a two year or multi year 140 00:05:09,405 --> 00:05:11,945 funding . And then , uh , the broader 141 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:14,001 question , can you address you , you 142 00:05:14,001 --> 00:05:16,167 talked a little bit about supply chain 143 00:05:16,167 --> 00:05:19,825 issues and um , some efforts to 144 00:05:19,835 --> 00:05:23,170 expand or accelerate production by 145 00:05:23,170 --> 00:05:25,500 investing in some of the industrial 146 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:27,500 base . Can you provide a little bit 147 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:29,790 more granularity on that ? Give us some 148 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,190 maybe some examples on where you see 149 00:05:32,190 --> 00:05:35,410 the challenges are . So where you where 150 00:05:35,410 --> 00:05:37,680 do you see the need for investing in 151 00:05:37,690 --> 00:05:40,090 the industrial base um , in order to 152 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:42,830 meet some of this demand . Thank you . 153 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:44,840 Thank you . I'll take I'll take the 154 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:46,896 question and see if there's anything 155 00:05:46,896 --> 00:05:49,062 more that MS baker wants coming on . I 156 00:05:49,062 --> 00:05:51,229 think the answer to the first question 157 00:05:51,229 --> 00:05:51,080 is pretty straightforward . It does not 158 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,136 expire at the end of the year . It's 159 00:05:53,136 --> 00:05:55,358 two year money , I'm pretty sure in all 160 00:05:55,358 --> 00:05:57,469 cases . Um , the answer to the second 161 00:05:57,469 --> 00:05:59,413 question , which is a more complex 162 00:05:59,413 --> 00:06:01,413 question of course , which is about 163 00:06:01,413 --> 00:06:03,469 getting into supply chain industrial 164 00:06:03,469 --> 00:06:05,136 base and how we , uh , how we 165 00:06:05,136 --> 00:06:07,191 accelerate production , how we build 166 00:06:07,191 --> 00:06:09,413 that up . Well , it really , it's all , 167 00:06:09,413 --> 00:06:08,970 it's a lot of different ways to start 168 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:11,770 with . Um most production lines that 169 00:06:11,770 --> 00:06:15,170 are active uh can have some capacity to 170 00:06:15,170 --> 00:06:17,480 increase their capacity to become 171 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,702 capacity to increase production but not 172 00:06:19,702 --> 00:06:21,924 all . And the question is , how quickly 173 00:06:21,924 --> 00:06:23,758 can they increase the capacity ? 174 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:26,330 Typically what happens is you run into 175 00:06:26,340 --> 00:06:29,160 some type of of an obstacle ? Maybe 176 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,830 it's a supplier , maybe it's a part uh 177 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:35,630 maybe it's it's something else that you 178 00:06:35,630 --> 00:06:37,686 have to work . And sometimes we , we 179 00:06:37,686 --> 00:06:39,852 found in many cases we found solutions 180 00:06:39,852 --> 00:06:42,074 very quickly . Uh give examples I think 181 00:06:42,074 --> 00:06:44,130 on the Stinger we had some issues of 182 00:06:44,130 --> 00:06:46,352 obsolescence when we start started that 183 00:06:46,352 --> 00:06:48,463 production line back up in the spring 184 00:06:48,463 --> 00:06:50,630 and we working with the contractor and 185 00:06:50,630 --> 00:06:52,574 with the army were able to find uh 186 00:06:52,574 --> 00:06:54,741 basically other ways to get around the 187 00:06:54,741 --> 00:06:56,908 obsolescence of some of the parts . So 188 00:06:56,908 --> 00:06:59,019 every , every time you look at supply 189 00:06:59,019 --> 00:07:01,074 production line and what it takes to 190 00:07:01,074 --> 00:07:03,130 get it to go to higher numbers , you 191 00:07:03,130 --> 00:07:02,450 come up with a different answer and 192 00:07:02,450 --> 00:07:04,172 that's not a bad thing because 193 00:07:04,172 --> 00:07:06,394 typically let's say let's take the case 194 00:07:06,394 --> 00:07:08,228 of the 1 55 right now , the 1 55 195 00:07:08,228 --> 00:07:11,210 munitions are at about 14,400 a month . 196 00:07:11,220 --> 00:07:13,164 And we have plans working with the 197 00:07:13,164 --> 00:07:15,730 contractor To get that in increments up 198 00:07:15,730 --> 00:07:19,170 to up to ultimately up to 36,000 a 199 00:07:19,170 --> 00:07:21,226 month by about three years . So it's 200 00:07:21,226 --> 00:07:23,337 gonna be in steps and each step takes 201 00:07:23,337 --> 00:07:25,614 it to another level . Um , for example , 202 00:07:25,614 --> 00:07:27,892 when we get to the next step of casing , 203 00:07:27,892 --> 00:07:29,892 then we can get the production safe 204 00:07:29,892 --> 00:07:31,892 from 14th Up to 20,000 , what do we 205 00:07:31,892 --> 00:07:34,059 need to get it from 20 to 25 ? So it's 206 00:07:34,059 --> 00:07:36,170 usually a combination of things . The 207 00:07:36,170 --> 00:07:38,226 other piece I will just point out is 208 00:07:38,226 --> 00:07:40,226 that a lot of times in a production 209 00:07:40,226 --> 00:07:41,892 line ? The prime who's at the 210 00:07:41,892 --> 00:07:43,726 production line ? That's not the 211 00:07:43,726 --> 00:07:43,280 bottleneck . The bottleneck will be a 212 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,002 supplier or something that's a 213 00:07:45,002 --> 00:07:48,130 subcontractor . The , the only thing I 214 00:07:48,130 --> 00:07:50,352 might add just on the first question is 215 00:07:50,352 --> 00:07:52,408 exactly right that the funding is to 216 00:07:52,408 --> 00:07:54,463 your funding so it does not expire . 217 00:07:54,463 --> 00:07:56,297 The authority to do draw down is 218 00:07:56,297 --> 00:07:58,408 typically provided . So those are two 219 00:07:58,408 --> 00:08:00,519 separate pieces typically provided on 220 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:02,574 an annual basis . I think we have no 221 00:08:02,574 --> 00:08:04,797 reason to expect that . That would that 222 00:08:04,797 --> 00:08:07,019 would change Yeah , that's a good point 223 00:08:07,019 --> 00:08:06,790 that the authority is different but the 224 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:08,846 funding itself of what we've already 225 00:08:08,846 --> 00:08:11,123 had is to your money . Great thank you . 226 00:08:11,123 --> 00:08:13,123 Um , with that we'll go to the room 227 00:08:13,123 --> 00:08:15,179 first . Yeah , go ahead . A question 228 00:08:15,179 --> 00:08:17,450 for you . Just more specifically on the 229 00:08:17,450 --> 00:08:19,617 155 millimeter , you've provided about 230 00:08:19,617 --> 00:08:21,783 800,000 rounds of ammo roughly give or 231 00:08:21,783 --> 00:08:23,783 take over the last six months given 232 00:08:23,783 --> 00:08:25,728 current inventories and production 233 00:08:25,728 --> 00:08:27,950 rates and the expectation that Putin is 234 00:08:27,950 --> 00:08:30,117 not ending this war anytime soon . Are 235 00:08:30,117 --> 00:08:32,172 you able to provide that same number 236 00:08:32,172 --> 00:08:31,810 over the next six months or does there 237 00:08:31,810 --> 00:08:35,110 need to be a change in In um , 238 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,430 production rates or without giving a 239 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:39,486 number anyone number ? Because we're 240 00:08:39,486 --> 00:08:41,708 still learning a lot . Um , I would say 241 00:08:41,708 --> 00:08:43,819 that we're continuing both to provide 242 00:08:43,819 --> 00:08:46,152 them to ourselves and to the Ukrainians . 243 00:08:46,152 --> 00:08:48,319 What we're learning is a great example 244 00:08:48,319 --> 00:08:50,486 of learning in 155 . The United States 245 00:08:50,486 --> 00:08:52,763 is not the only country that makes 155 . 246 00:08:52,763 --> 00:08:54,819 So we were able to two weeks ago the 247 00:08:54,819 --> 00:08:57,041 army contracted with several production 248 00:08:57,041 --> 00:08:59,710 companies around the world to purchase 249 00:08:59,710 --> 00:09:02,710 250,000 rounds of 1 55 . So we have a 250 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,887 variety of ways that we are looking at 251 00:09:04,887 --> 00:09:08,030 the 1 55 I would say . Uh the other 252 00:09:08,030 --> 00:09:10,197 piece of it , as I just said earlier , 253 00:09:10,197 --> 00:09:12,363 we we are producing at 14,000 month as 254 00:09:12,363 --> 00:09:14,474 we speak . So that doesn't come close 255 00:09:14,474 --> 00:09:16,530 to matching another 800,000 over the 256 00:09:16,530 --> 00:09:18,697 next six months . Not Not domestically 257 00:09:18,697 --> 00:09:20,808 and sounds like not globally either . 258 00:09:20,808 --> 00:09:23,050 It may or may not . I think you'd be , 259 00:09:23,060 --> 00:09:25,620 I think we're learning still about the 260 00:09:25,620 --> 00:09:27,950 global production lines on 155 but 261 00:09:27,950 --> 00:09:29,839 you're right . 800,000 is a lot . 262 00:09:29,839 --> 00:09:33,720 That's right . You 263 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,553 talked about sort of the U . S . 264 00:09:35,553 --> 00:09:37,740 Leading the effort to put um , and I'm 265 00:09:37,740 --> 00:09:39,907 looking for your wording here , making 266 00:09:39,907 --> 00:09:42,018 sure there is significant pressure on 267 00:09:42,018 --> 00:09:44,073 Russia to end this conflict . Do you 268 00:09:44,073 --> 00:09:43,600 think the efforts to create that 269 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,711 pressure has changed Putin's calculus 270 00:09:45,711 --> 00:09:49,330 in any way ? You know , I think , I 271 00:09:49,330 --> 00:09:51,497 think it's clear that Putin's invasion 272 00:09:51,497 --> 00:09:53,663 is not going exactly as he anticipated 273 00:09:53,663 --> 00:09:56,400 and the Russians have thus far failed 274 00:09:56,410 --> 00:09:58,632 to achieve their strategic objectives . 275 00:09:58,632 --> 00:10:01,050 I think they failed to achieve even 276 00:10:01,050 --> 00:10:03,920 their reduced objectives . So certainly , 277 00:10:03,930 --> 00:10:05,930 you know , as you've heard from the 278 00:10:05,930 --> 00:10:08,600 secretary and others , our goal is to 279 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,600 support the Ukrainians in defending 280 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,822 their territory and putting them in the 281 00:10:12,822 --> 00:10:15,230 strongest possible position , both to , 282 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,350 uh , preserve and regain in some cases 283 00:10:18,350 --> 00:10:20,572 their sovereignty and then , and then , 284 00:10:20,572 --> 00:10:22,739 you know , should they choose to go to 285 00:10:22,739 --> 00:10:24,628 the negotiating table to have the 286 00:10:24,628 --> 00:10:26,739 strongest possible hand ? Great thank 287 00:10:26,739 --> 00:10:29,072 you Sam . Yeah SAM with us and our news . 288 00:10:29,072 --> 00:10:31,480 Uh , just a quick follow up to the 289 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:35,010 alloy magnet issue with the F 35 . Um , 290 00:10:35,020 --> 00:10:37,242 just to , just to be clear from , y'all 291 00:10:37,242 --> 00:10:39,353 doesn't affect operational aircraft , 292 00:10:39,353 --> 00:10:41,298 doesn't have to be replaced in the 293 00:10:41,298 --> 00:10:44,040 operational aircraft . You're not 294 00:10:44,050 --> 00:10:46,050 considering in a contract violation 295 00:10:46,050 --> 00:10:48,106 with Lockheed or Honeywell or any of 296 00:10:48,106 --> 00:10:50,217 those , Let me tell you tell you this 297 00:10:50,217 --> 00:10:52,272 situation as best we know it . So as 298 00:10:52,272 --> 00:10:54,494 was pointed as some of , you know , the 299 00:10:54,494 --> 00:10:56,717 contractor is actually sub suppliers to 300 00:10:56,717 --> 00:10:58,939 Lockheed martin self reported that they 301 00:10:58,939 --> 00:11:00,994 discovered an alloy that goes into a 302 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:03,170 magnet is made in china and by the D 303 00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:05,830 fars that meant that we had to stop 304 00:11:05,830 --> 00:11:07,886 until we understood it accepting the 305 00:11:07,886 --> 00:11:09,663 airplanes and what they call an 306 00:11:09,663 --> 00:11:11,774 acquisition speak D . D 2 50 . That's 307 00:11:11,774 --> 00:11:13,941 basically where the airplane is signed 308 00:11:13,941 --> 00:11:16,150 over to the government . Um , so 309 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:18,317 pending the results of investigation , 310 00:11:18,317 --> 00:11:20,372 um , they're moving pretty quickly . 311 00:11:20,372 --> 00:11:22,594 They're looking at two things . Right . 312 00:11:22,594 --> 00:11:24,817 One impact on security if , if any , an 313 00:11:24,817 --> 00:11:27,150 impact on airworthiness safety , if any . 314 00:11:27,150 --> 00:11:29,261 Right now so far it doesn't appear to 315 00:11:29,261 --> 00:11:29,010 be either of them . But I'm waiting for 316 00:11:29,010 --> 00:11:31,177 them to finish their looking at it and 317 00:11:31,177 --> 00:11:33,232 come to me it's likely if in fact we 318 00:11:33,232 --> 00:11:35,399 find neither of those to be the case , 319 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:38,060 we'll be able to do a waiver and do the 320 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:40,060 replacements and get the production 321 00:11:40,060 --> 00:11:42,670 line moving again . So I'm hoping this 322 00:11:42,670 --> 00:11:46,190 can be resolved pretty soon . Are there 323 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,256 gonna be any investigations into the 324 00:11:48,256 --> 00:11:50,533 changes in procedure to make sure that , 325 00:11:50,533 --> 00:11:52,589 you know , some of these by american 326 00:11:52,589 --> 00:11:54,756 stipulations continue on and you don't 327 00:11:54,756 --> 00:11:56,978 have another . Well , I think there's a 328 00:11:56,978 --> 00:11:56,890 bigger , there's a bigger picture here , 329 00:11:56,890 --> 00:11:58,890 which there's ongoing study a lot , 330 00:11:58,890 --> 00:12:00,501 which is called supply chain 331 00:12:00,501 --> 00:12:02,280 illumination . And that is the 332 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,940 understanding of primes suppliers of 333 00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:07,273 what is even in their supply chain . Um , 334 00:12:07,273 --> 00:12:09,840 and I had a ceo of a company . Tell me 335 00:12:09,850 --> 00:12:12,490 about two weeks ago that he thought he 336 00:12:12,490 --> 00:12:15,300 had 300 suppliers that he discovered 337 00:12:15,310 --> 00:12:17,477 when he counted all of his suppliers , 338 00:12:17,477 --> 00:12:20,260 he probably had 3000 suppliers and 339 00:12:20,260 --> 00:12:22,610 suppliers can change overnight . And so 340 00:12:22,610 --> 00:12:24,721 what , what this is becoming is , and 341 00:12:24,721 --> 00:12:26,666 it's been recognized for some time 342 00:12:26,666 --> 00:12:28,721 almost a real time issue of tracking 343 00:12:28,721 --> 00:12:30,888 and making sure that there's integrity 344 00:12:30,888 --> 00:12:33,054 in your supply chain . So I think it's 345 00:12:33,054 --> 00:12:33,020 part of a broader issue which we call 346 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:35,076 supply chain illumination . The good 347 00:12:35,076 --> 00:12:37,020 news is our tools coming out using 348 00:12:37,020 --> 00:12:39,242 artificial intelligence and open source 349 00:12:39,242 --> 00:12:41,464 that can dive in and maybe find some of 350 00:12:41,464 --> 00:12:43,576 these things . But I think it's gonna 351 00:12:43,576 --> 00:12:45,687 be a constant , constant issue for us 352 00:12:45,687 --> 00:12:45,510 is understanding our supply chain . 353 00:12:46,150 --> 00:12:48,261 Great , thank you . I'm gonna open it 354 00:12:48,261 --> 00:12:50,539 up to the phones for a question , Tony , 355 00:12:50,539 --> 00:12:54,000 carpaccio Bloomberg . Hi , sir , I 356 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,778 wanted to follow up on the F 35 357 00:12:55,778 --> 00:12:57,960 question . The J Po today acknowledged 358 00:12:57,970 --> 00:13:00,137 that every plane that's been delivered 359 00:13:00,137 --> 00:13:02,359 to date has this magnet in there , this 360 00:13:02,359 --> 00:13:04,470 alloy . It raises the question of why 361 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:07,470 Honeywell over the last 15 or 16 , 17 362 00:13:07,470 --> 00:13:09,870 years didn't detect it . Does this 363 00:13:09,870 --> 00:13:11,648 bother you ? Or is it more of a 364 00:13:11,648 --> 00:13:13,870 niggling issue that , you know , things 365 00:13:13,870 --> 00:13:15,981 are gonna happen given the complexity 366 00:13:15,981 --> 00:13:18,590 of the supply chain Tony . I'll give 367 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:20,590 you credit for a great question . I 368 00:13:20,590 --> 00:13:22,757 actually don't know the answer on this 369 00:13:22,757 --> 00:13:24,979 particular case . I'm , I will find out 370 00:13:24,979 --> 00:13:27,090 and we will let people know , I could 371 00:13:27,090 --> 00:13:27,020 speculate , um , I've just seen enough 372 00:13:27,020 --> 00:13:30,080 cases of , of discovering things in 373 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,980 supply chains that , uh , you know , 374 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:35,280 that , that I wouldn't be surprised by 375 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,680 anything . Um I've often said and 376 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:40,080 others have said any , any company that 377 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,136 says they know their supply chain is 378 00:13:42,136 --> 00:13:44,136 like a company saying they've never 379 00:13:44,136 --> 00:13:46,358 been hacked . So it's it's it's it's an 380 00:13:46,358 --> 00:13:48,469 endless battle , but Toni , I I don't 381 00:13:48,469 --> 00:13:50,900 know the answer to the question . Okay , 382 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:53,077 and we're gonna take one more from the 383 00:13:53,077 --> 00:13:55,132 phone and then I'll come back to the 384 00:13:55,132 --> 00:13:54,910 room uh and we're gonna stick with 385 00:13:54,910 --> 00:13:57,700 Tony's Tony Burton aka Inside Defense . 386 00:13:58,340 --> 00:14:00,510 Thank you . Uh , I wanted to ask you 387 00:14:00,510 --> 00:14:02,732 about the meeting of National armaments 388 00:14:02,732 --> 00:14:04,621 Directors that you're going to be 389 00:14:04,621 --> 00:14:06,566 chairing , uh , that sounds like a 390 00:14:06,566 --> 00:14:09,150 significant level of coordination with 391 00:14:09,150 --> 00:14:11,720 the global defense industrial base . Uh , 392 00:14:11,730 --> 00:14:14,210 can you tell us what your goals are for 393 00:14:14,210 --> 00:14:15,932 this meeting ? Do you have any 394 00:14:15,932 --> 00:14:17,543 deliverables or what kind of 395 00:14:17,543 --> 00:14:19,710 commitments you want to get ? Um , and 396 00:14:19,710 --> 00:14:22,020 and when the meeting will be Sure I'm 397 00:14:22,030 --> 00:14:24,130 happy to do it Tony Uh , meeting is 398 00:14:24,130 --> 00:14:26,530 gonna be in Brussels on September 28 . 399 00:14:26,540 --> 00:14:28,820 Um , we intend what we're doing or 400 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:31,320 intend to do is invite the national 401 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,487 armaments directors of all the contact 402 00:14:33,487 --> 00:14:35,153 group , which is sort of , my 403 00:14:35,153 --> 00:14:37,830 equivalent to the meeting right now , 404 00:14:37,830 --> 00:14:40,052 we have three kind of themes , but this 405 00:14:40,052 --> 00:14:42,163 is , this will evolve as we build the 406 00:14:42,163 --> 00:14:44,274 agenda . The first is comparing notes 407 00:14:44,274 --> 00:14:46,497 and giving situation reports on ramping 408 00:14:46,497 --> 00:14:48,663 up production of key capabilities . We 409 00:14:48,663 --> 00:14:50,886 have a lot to learn from each other , I 410 00:14:50,886 --> 00:14:52,997 should point out that there are a lot 411 00:14:52,997 --> 00:14:55,219 of uh , a lot of defense companies have 412 00:14:55,219 --> 00:14:57,386 international business and , and joint 413 00:14:57,386 --> 00:14:59,608 ventures between the european countries 414 00:14:59,608 --> 00:14:59,510 for companies . Excuse me . And 415 00:14:59,510 --> 00:15:01,732 american companies . Uh , some american 416 00:15:01,732 --> 00:15:03,954 companies have production facilities in 417 00:15:03,954 --> 00:15:06,066 europe . So we want to kind of take a 418 00:15:06,066 --> 00:15:08,232 bigger picture , Look talking with the 419 00:15:08,232 --> 00:15:10,399 contact group on that and compared and 420 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:12,621 then related to supply chain . What are 421 00:15:12,621 --> 00:15:14,621 we seeing in the supply chain ? You 422 00:15:14,621 --> 00:15:14,335 know , the typical things and supply 423 00:15:14,335 --> 00:15:16,885 chain are micro electronics and 424 00:15:16,885 --> 00:15:19,107 obsolescence of them . Things like ball 425 00:15:19,107 --> 00:15:21,329 bearings even and solid rocket motors , 426 00:15:21,495 --> 00:15:23,439 other sensors . We want to compare 427 00:15:23,439 --> 00:15:25,384 notes on what people are seeing in 428 00:15:25,384 --> 00:15:27,273 their supply chain . What answers 429 00:15:27,273 --> 00:15:29,328 people have had ? And then finally , 430 00:15:29,328 --> 00:15:31,495 how do we as we replenish both our our 431 00:15:31,495 --> 00:15:33,551 own capabilities and other countries 432 00:15:33,551 --> 00:15:33,405 replenish their capabilities and build 433 00:15:33,405 --> 00:15:35,405 towards the future and the future ? 434 00:15:35,405 --> 00:15:37,238 Including of what Ukraine builds 435 00:15:37,238 --> 00:15:39,405 towards ? How can we not just increase 436 00:15:39,405 --> 00:15:41,572 interoperability between our systems ? 437 00:15:41,572 --> 00:15:43,238 What I would call an increase 438 00:15:43,238 --> 00:15:45,405 interchangeability that is the ability 439 00:15:45,405 --> 00:15:47,516 for us to to take a munition from one 440 00:15:47,516 --> 00:15:49,683 country and use it in a weapons system 441 00:15:49,683 --> 00:15:51,794 of another and vice versa . So that's 442 00:15:51,794 --> 00:15:54,072 that's the summary . Great , thank you . 443 00:15:54,072 --> 00:15:56,294 I'm gonna turn it back to the room . Do 444 00:15:56,294 --> 00:15:58,516 you have questions questions Are you at 445 00:15:58,516 --> 00:16:01,350 all considering providing Gray Eagle 446 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,440 drones to Ukrainians and if not ? Why 447 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,170 not ? And and because in the past 448 00:16:07,170 --> 00:16:09,540 there's been some weapons and munitions 449 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:11,900 that initially administration chose not 450 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:14,410 to provide . And then over time , your 451 00:16:14,420 --> 00:16:17,850 view evolved to Sasha . 452 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:20,430 Yeah , it's it's certainly were aware 453 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,384 that the Ukrainians have in and an 454 00:16:22,384 --> 00:16:24,440 interest in Gray Eagle and and we're 455 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,384 looking at it I think is the short 456 00:16:26,384 --> 00:16:28,710 answer , you know , to to for questions 457 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:31,820 of technology , security for questions 458 00:16:31,820 --> 00:16:35,370 about survivability of the of the 459 00:16:35,370 --> 00:16:37,580 platform in the contested environment 460 00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:41,150 in Ukraine . Um , and of course , for 461 00:16:41,150 --> 00:16:43,372 the readiness impact that it would have 462 00:16:43,372 --> 00:16:45,594 for us , specifically for the army . So 463 00:16:45,594 --> 00:16:47,761 that is an ongoing conversation within 464 00:16:47,761 --> 00:16:47,540 the Department . No decision has been 465 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:49,596 made at this point . And then as you 466 00:16:49,596 --> 00:16:51,990 talk about all these weapons and 467 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,800 munitions moving to Ukraine , how do 468 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,967 you see the Ukrainians putting them to 469 00:16:56,967 --> 00:16:59,850 use at the moment ? And what is your 470 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:02,027 assessment of the state of the counter 471 00:17:02,027 --> 00:17:03,980 offensive ? Now , as Ukrainian 472 00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:06,280 government is saying they've gained um , 473 00:17:06,290 --> 00:17:08,650 some some made some significant gains 474 00:17:08,660 --> 00:17:11,180 in the East ? Yeah , of course , we're 475 00:17:11,180 --> 00:17:13,720 watching the progress on the counter 476 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,831 offensive quite closely as as you can 477 00:17:15,831 --> 00:17:18,053 imagine , I would say . And I think you 478 00:17:18,053 --> 00:17:20,220 heard this from the chairman yesterday 479 00:17:20,220 --> 00:17:22,220 in in europe , it's early days , so 480 00:17:22,220 --> 00:17:24,387 probably too soon to have a definitive 481 00:17:24,387 --> 00:17:26,553 assessment , they launched the counter 482 00:17:26,553 --> 00:17:28,664 offensive on the first of the month . 483 00:17:28,664 --> 00:17:30,609 So we're a little over a week in I 484 00:17:30,609 --> 00:17:32,942 think we've seen some encouraging signs . 485 00:17:32,942 --> 00:17:35,290 And um , certainly even in just the 486 00:17:35,290 --> 00:17:37,780 last day or two . But again , you know , 487 00:17:37,780 --> 00:17:40,010 the Russians are a formidable adversary 488 00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:43,290 and and they , you know , there's a I 489 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:46,290 think a long fight ahead um as it 490 00:17:46,290 --> 00:17:48,760 relates to how the Ukrainians are using 491 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,880 the capabilities that we've provided to 492 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,690 them . I think we we agree that 493 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:57,700 they've been able to do so to great 494 00:17:57,700 --> 00:17:59,620 effect and that they've been very 495 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:01,900 creative in integrating capabilities 496 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:03,900 not only from the United States but 497 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:05,900 from partners and allies around the 498 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:08,210 world uh into into their order of 499 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:10,550 battle , which I think is quite an 500 00:18:10,550 --> 00:18:13,140 impressive accomplishment . We of 501 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:15,640 course now have an sdo data on the 502 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,600 ground in Kiev general harmon who that 503 00:18:19,610 --> 00:18:21,721 I think as as just in the past couple 504 00:18:21,721 --> 00:18:24,120 of weeks provided us 505 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:27,800 uh even more visibility uh 506 00:18:27,810 --> 00:18:30,420 into into what what and how the 507 00:18:30,420 --> 00:18:33,820 Ukrainians are are operating and as 508 00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:35,670 another layer and sort of the 509 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,847 communication that's happening between 510 00:18:37,847 --> 00:18:39,902 the United States and Ukraine at all 511 00:18:39,902 --> 00:18:42,124 levels . Great thank you , I'm gonna go 512 00:18:42,124 --> 00:18:44,236 to laura and then I'll come back over 513 00:18:44,236 --> 00:18:46,347 there . Yeah . So one for each of you 514 00:18:46,347 --> 00:18:49,500 um dr can you just clarify , you said 515 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:53,260 that the money expires , So does the P . 516 00:18:53,260 --> 00:18:55,930 D . A . Do you have to re upped that 517 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,689 to try to do the best job ? I can 518 00:18:59,689 --> 00:19:02,280 explain it but then I'll have my wise 519 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,280 colleague correct me . So the way I 520 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,680 think about it , there's 33 buckets if 521 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,902 you want to call it money and authority 522 00:19:08,902 --> 00:19:11,013 that we typically talk about . One is 523 00:19:11,013 --> 00:19:12,736 the drawdown itself , which is 524 00:19:12,736 --> 00:19:12,140 presidential drawdown , that's an 525 00:19:12,140 --> 00:19:13,862 authority . So they'll give an 526 00:19:13,862 --> 00:19:15,862 authority up to a certain amount of 527 00:19:15,862 --> 00:19:18,710 dollars . Okay . That is what I believe 528 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:20,932 is what what MS MS baker was saying may 529 00:19:20,932 --> 00:19:23,080 have to be redone again with the new 530 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,110 fiscal year . But then there's the 531 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:27,120 other two that are actually pots of 532 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:28,953 money . One is the replenishment 533 00:19:28,953 --> 00:19:31,120 replenishment is as best we can try to 534 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:33,287 do one for one for what we've given in 535 00:19:33,287 --> 00:19:35,176 the drawdown and and that's about 536 00:19:35,176 --> 00:19:37,342 roughly the same amount of money is in 537 00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:36,500 the draw down slightly more to take 538 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:38,611 into account inflation . And then the 539 00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:40,389 other part is what we , what we 540 00:19:40,389 --> 00:19:42,389 mentioned earlier . U . S . A . I . 541 00:19:42,389 --> 00:19:44,222 Okay . So so again in the in the 542 00:19:44,222 --> 00:19:46,444 replenishment money and the U . S . A . 543 00:19:46,444 --> 00:19:48,444 I . That's the two year money . The 544 00:19:48,444 --> 00:19:50,611 drawdown authority itself may and I'll 545 00:19:50,611 --> 00:19:52,778 defer to MS baker about that . You got 546 00:19:52,778 --> 00:19:54,722 it . I would just say the drawdown 547 00:19:54,722 --> 00:19:56,611 authority has existed long before 548 00:19:56,611 --> 00:19:59,230 Ukraine . Um and has has for many , 549 00:19:59,230 --> 00:20:01,286 many years received broad bipartisan 550 00:20:01,286 --> 00:20:03,397 support . We don't have any reason to 551 00:20:03,397 --> 00:20:07,370 expect that that by the end of the 552 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,240 fiscal year before you react Or is it 553 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,680 just your wrapping the authority ? So 554 00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:15,912 you know this is this is a conversation 555 00:20:15,912 --> 00:20:18,079 we're having with Congress and I don't 556 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:20,079 want to get ahead of that . But the 557 00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:22,246 hope and expectation is that that will 558 00:20:22,246 --> 00:20:24,468 roll over . Either roll over or will be 559 00:20:24,468 --> 00:20:28,430 reauthorized in the coming year . Um 560 00:20:28,430 --> 00:20:30,430 And then just follow up on what you 561 00:20:30,430 --> 00:20:32,486 said about you said there was an Sdo 562 00:20:32,486 --> 00:20:34,652 data on the ground in Kiev , can you , 563 00:20:34,652 --> 00:20:36,708 can you say , what does that acronym 564 00:20:36,708 --> 00:20:40,600 stands ? Sorry , uh defense attache uh 565 00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:44,120 at the embassy uh in keith . So this is 566 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:46,140 a one star which we had previously 567 00:20:46,150 --> 00:20:48,317 announced and he's there on the ground 568 00:20:48,317 --> 00:20:50,970 helping to facilitate the communication 569 00:20:50,970 --> 00:20:54,230 between the Ukrainian mod Ministry of 570 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:57,140 Defense and our team has been there 571 00:20:57,140 --> 00:21:00,850 before just arrived . Um I don't know 572 00:21:00,850 --> 00:21:02,794 the exact date when he arrived , I 573 00:21:02,794 --> 00:21:05,040 believe it was about a month ago . 574 00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:06,830 Yeah . 575 00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:10,650 Well I mean look , we we have defense 576 00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:13,030 attaches with most of our , most of our 577 00:21:13,030 --> 00:21:14,752 embassies around the world and 578 00:21:14,752 --> 00:21:16,752 particularly I think it's important 579 00:21:16,752 --> 00:21:18,919 with partners and allies where we have 580 00:21:18,919 --> 00:21:21,141 this kind of close security cooperation 581 00:21:21,141 --> 00:21:23,570 ongoing , it provides us an additional 582 00:21:23,570 --> 00:21:26,090 level of eyes on the ground of 583 00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:28,830 oversight and an ability to get sort of 584 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:30,886 real time information about what the 585 00:21:30,886 --> 00:21:33,052 Ukrainians are seeing and experiencing 586 00:21:33,052 --> 00:21:35,219 and what they might need . Great , I'm 587 00:21:35,219 --> 00:21:37,960 gonna go Martinez over there . Hi um mr 588 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,071 Plant earlier this week , you brought 589 00:21:40,071 --> 00:21:42,150 up the issue of harpoons and the 590 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,327 improvised system and the training and 591 00:21:44,327 --> 00:21:46,940 all that . Um can you talk some more 592 00:21:46,940 --> 00:21:49,580 about that ? And also can you talk to 593 00:21:49,580 --> 00:21:51,980 us about the additional two systems 594 00:21:51,980 --> 00:21:54,202 that I think we're going to be produced 595 00:21:54,202 --> 00:21:56,369 domestically and what is the status of 596 00:21:56,369 --> 00:21:58,424 that ? And then if I can ask both of 597 00:21:58,424 --> 00:22:00,536 you , um how does the ebb and flow of 598 00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:02,760 the battlefield affect the supply chain 599 00:22:02,770 --> 00:22:04,659 plans that you have here . So for 600 00:22:04,659 --> 00:22:06,770 example , when you talk about ramping 601 00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:08,826 up , let's say high mars up to 12 to 602 00:22:08,826 --> 00:22:11,320 14,000 I think a year . I mean is it 603 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,720 safe to assume that most of that is 604 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,942 going to go for replenishment or are we 605 00:22:15,942 --> 00:22:18,010 talking about it being continuing to 606 00:22:18,010 --> 00:22:21,940 flow to Ukraine as needed . So let me 607 00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:24,107 try to answer the questions in reverse 608 00:22:24,107 --> 00:22:26,162 and try to remember remember them on 609 00:22:26,162 --> 00:22:28,440 the high mars production increase . Um , 610 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,440 it's really anticipating all of the 611 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,551 above number one . We know we have to 612 00:22:32,551 --> 00:22:34,384 replenish some of the ones we've 613 00:22:34,384 --> 00:22:36,218 provided , but we also know that 614 00:22:36,218 --> 00:22:38,162 foreign military sale requests are 615 00:22:38,162 --> 00:22:40,273 coming in for them too . So it's it's 616 00:22:40,273 --> 00:22:42,496 sort of , this is what this is why it's 617 00:22:42,496 --> 00:22:44,607 sort of difficult because you have to 618 00:22:44,607 --> 00:22:46,718 kind of make your prediction about 23 619 00:22:46,718 --> 00:22:48,940 years from now what we think the likely 620 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:50,996 demand is going to be because that's 621 00:22:50,996 --> 00:22:50,490 what we're really talking about here . 622 00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:53,220 But it's really for replenishment and 623 00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:55,331 because the expected foreign military 624 00:22:55,331 --> 00:22:57,498 sales for high mars , let me go back , 625 00:22:57,498 --> 00:22:59,664 let's go back to your first question . 626 00:22:59,664 --> 00:23:01,887 I remember your first question . Yeah . 627 00:23:01,887 --> 00:23:03,942 That this the hard point example was 628 00:23:03,942 --> 00:23:06,053 really what I was making the point of 629 00:23:06,053 --> 00:23:08,164 is about the timeline . It wasn't the 630 00:23:08,164 --> 00:23:07,720 training was not done in this country , 631 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,887 the training was done somewhere else . 632 00:23:09,887 --> 00:23:11,887 It was done by the vendor , but the 633 00:23:11,887 --> 00:23:13,887 point I made about it was about the 634 00:23:13,887 --> 00:23:15,998 time I was the middle of May when the 635 00:23:15,998 --> 00:23:18,053 idea was first brought forward to do 636 00:23:18,053 --> 00:23:20,109 this . The training happened over at 637 00:23:20,109 --> 00:23:22,276 the end of that month , which happened 638 00:23:22,276 --> 00:23:22,000 to correspond in this country at the 639 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,222 end of Memorial , but it wasn't in this 640 00:23:24,222 --> 00:23:26,389 country and then they were , they were 641 00:23:26,389 --> 00:23:28,722 provided operationally the next week to , 642 00:23:28,722 --> 00:23:30,722 to the Ukrainians . I would say the 643 00:23:30,722 --> 00:23:32,889 bigger picture that this points out is 644 00:23:32,889 --> 00:23:35,130 training overall as we is gonna end up 645 00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:38,000 being increasingly a bigger endeavor by 646 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,990 the enterprise . And I point out , 647 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:42,500 training is a multinational effort . 648 00:23:42,510 --> 00:23:44,510 It's not one country , it's not one 649 00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:46,780 vendor . Um , and we are putting a lot 650 00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:48,947 of , of , of effort into that and what 651 00:23:48,947 --> 00:23:51,169 we call generally sustainment . I think 652 00:23:51,169 --> 00:23:53,113 your middle question was something 653 00:23:53,113 --> 00:23:56,230 about the supply chain . Yeah , I would 654 00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:58,452 say the way , I'd say it is more , it's 655 00:23:58,452 --> 00:24:00,920 prediction . Um , I don't , I don't 656 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,864 know who would have predicted . 10 657 00:24:02,864 --> 00:24:04,698 years ago , we would have needed 658 00:24:04,698 --> 00:24:07,900 singers in 2022 . Um , I was with a 659 00:24:07,910 --> 00:24:10,100 colleague on the joint staff who was a 660 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:13,240 navy aviator and she , she said um when 661 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,460 we were talking on the hill , had you 662 00:24:15,460 --> 00:24:17,520 asked her 10 years ago , what weapon 663 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,687 would you like to have ? 10 years from 664 00:24:19,687 --> 00:24:21,909 now ? She would have described a highly 665 00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:23,853 precise weapon with low collateral 666 00:24:23,853 --> 00:24:26,020 damage that would work in the desert . 667 00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:28,242 So part of it is , it's not the ebb and 668 00:24:28,242 --> 00:24:30,187 flow . It's about , you don't know 669 00:24:30,187 --> 00:24:30,180 which weapons are gonna end up being 670 00:24:30,180 --> 00:24:32,260 effective depending on where the ebb 671 00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:34,316 and flow of the battle goes and what 672 00:24:34,316 --> 00:24:36,538 Ukrainians are able to use . That's the 673 00:24:36,538 --> 00:24:38,704 harder part . I agree completely . The 674 00:24:38,704 --> 00:24:40,871 only thing I might add is , you know , 675 00:24:40,871 --> 00:24:43,630 we are seeing and we're in ongoing 676 00:24:43,630 --> 00:24:45,852 conversations with a number of partners 677 00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:47,852 and allies around the world who are 678 00:24:47,852 --> 00:24:49,908 seeing some of the capabilities that 679 00:24:49,908 --> 00:24:52,074 Bill described him as being one of one 680 00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:55,040 of several uh put to use in Ukraine . 681 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,490 And our newly in some cases interested 682 00:24:57,490 --> 00:24:59,712 in in thinking about whether that might 683 00:24:59,712 --> 00:25:01,601 be a capability that they want to 684 00:25:01,601 --> 00:25:03,768 acquire . So again , these these are , 685 00:25:03,768 --> 00:25:05,879 you know , potential future FMS cases 686 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,768 that this is a process that moves 687 00:25:07,768 --> 00:25:09,879 relatively slowly . But I think we we 688 00:25:09,879 --> 00:25:11,768 see the beginnings at least of of 689 00:25:11,768 --> 00:25:14,570 pretty substantial interest amongst non 690 00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:16,880 Ukraine countries . Great , I'm gonna 691 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,824 go back to the phones quickly . Um 692 00:25:18,824 --> 00:25:22,510 steven with defense news . My 693 00:25:22,510 --> 00:25:24,621 question was already answered . Thank 694 00:25:24,621 --> 00:25:26,732 you very much . Thank you Alex Horton 695 00:25:26,732 --> 00:25:28,770 Washington post . Hey , thanks for 696 00:25:28,770 --> 00:25:31,120 doing this . Um , I was curious from 697 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:34,180 this um this latest contracting package , 698 00:25:34,190 --> 00:25:37,240 what has to do with um hardware for 699 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,073 training , for example , Javelin 700 00:25:39,073 --> 00:25:41,018 trainers simulators , that sort of 701 00:25:41,018 --> 00:25:43,730 thing . Thank you . We include um we 702 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:45,820 include in some of these packages in 703 00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:47,987 the drawdowns as well , provisions for 704 00:25:47,987 --> 00:25:50,590 training provision for uh for for 705 00:25:50,590 --> 00:25:53,040 supplies and the rest . Um so it's it's 706 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520 all included in the package . Now , we 707 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,950 continue to evaluate based upon the use , 708 00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:59,894 based upon the need , how easy the 709 00:25:59,894 --> 00:26:02,006 training is going and whether we have 710 00:26:02,006 --> 00:26:04,061 to adjust those . And so I would say 711 00:26:04,061 --> 00:26:06,339 one thing we're doing in U . S . D . A . 712 00:26:06,339 --> 00:26:08,172 N . S . Is we have the Assistant 713 00:26:08,172 --> 00:26:10,283 Secretary , Defense for sustainment . 714 00:26:10,283 --> 00:26:12,506 Mr Chris Lohmann with the Joint Staff J 715 00:26:12,506 --> 00:26:12,120 four , they've stood up a whole 716 00:26:12,130 --> 00:26:14,241 sustaining the fight , sustaining the 717 00:26:14,241 --> 00:26:16,840 force group um looking at at Ukraine . 718 00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:18,906 So this is gonna be this is gonna be 719 00:26:18,906 --> 00:26:21,360 along the long haul and sustainment and 720 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,416 uh and and keeping these parts going 721 00:26:23,416 --> 00:26:25,527 and keeping the equipment working . I 722 00:26:25,527 --> 00:26:27,193 would just add to that that's 723 00:26:27,193 --> 00:26:29,416 consistent with our broader approach to 724 00:26:29,416 --> 00:26:31,360 security assistance , not only for 725 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:30,910 Ukraine , but around the world that 726 00:26:30,910 --> 00:26:33,970 when we offer a security assistance or 727 00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:36,050 offer a particular capability to a 728 00:26:36,050 --> 00:26:38,520 country , it comes with an offer of 729 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,520 training and of sustainment because 730 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,576 we're trying to provide a wraparound 731 00:26:42,576 --> 00:26:44,576 package such that this is something 732 00:26:44,576 --> 00:26:46,742 that will endure and not just get used 733 00:26:46,742 --> 00:26:49,110 and forgotten . Great , thank you . 734 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,231 We're gonna take a few more before we 735 00:26:51,231 --> 00:26:53,342 have to wrap so joe over you uh great 736 00:26:53,342 --> 00:26:55,509 to see you for a second time in a week 737 00:26:55,509 --> 00:26:57,564 high . I have a question for each of 738 00:26:57,564 --> 00:26:59,910 you . One is is more of a follow up um 739 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:01,976 you know , as you were talking about 740 00:27:01,976 --> 00:27:04,470 the meeting of armaments directors um 741 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,420 is underneath this , is there any 742 00:27:06,420 --> 00:27:08,253 concern about , you know , we're 743 00:27:08,253 --> 00:27:10,476 talking about the health of the U . S . 744 00:27:10,476 --> 00:27:12,587 Industrial base ? What's the level of 745 00:27:12,587 --> 00:27:14,364 concern about the health of the 746 00:27:14,364 --> 00:27:16,253 industrial basis um in the in the 747 00:27:16,253 --> 00:27:18,476 member countries and I know they span a 748 00:27:18,476 --> 00:27:20,698 range . Well I think a couple of things 749 00:27:20,698 --> 00:27:22,698 I I don't know that I have a lot of 750 00:27:22,698 --> 00:27:24,864 insight I've been to uh when I about a 751 00:27:24,864 --> 00:27:27,031 month after I got in the job I went to 752 00:27:27,031 --> 00:27:29,198 a contact or sorry a NATO meeting with 753 00:27:29,198 --> 00:27:31,253 the army's directors and we compared 754 00:27:31,253 --> 00:27:33,364 notes at that meeting . And I think I 755 00:27:33,364 --> 00:27:35,420 think people are sort of in the same 756 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:37,531 position we are . But I should remind 757 00:27:37,531 --> 00:27:39,531 everybody . The scale of the United 758 00:27:39,531 --> 00:27:41,580 States Defense Enterprise is just 759 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:43,757 something very different than what are 760 00:27:43,757 --> 00:27:45,979 our partners and allies have . So think 761 00:27:45,979 --> 00:27:48,146 about everything that we have but on a 762 00:27:48,146 --> 00:27:50,090 smaller scale . Um So I think that 763 00:27:50,090 --> 00:27:52,146 that's what we're gonna find out . I 764 00:27:52,146 --> 00:27:54,312 think that's one of the topic areas is 765 00:27:54,312 --> 00:27:53,720 to compare notes and see where people 766 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,260 are . And also hopefully people will be 767 00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:58,371 able to be some have revealed because 768 00:27:58,371 --> 00:28:00,316 part of this is revealing your own 769 00:28:00,316 --> 00:28:02,427 situation . And so that's part of the 770 00:28:02,427 --> 00:28:05,170 reason to have the meeting ? And um my 771 00:28:05,170 --> 00:28:08,040 question um is about the foreign 772 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,360 military financing that got notified by 773 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,520 state . What's um what do you 774 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,740 anticipate the kind of the knock on 775 00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:18,250 here is going to be and what's what's 776 00:28:18,260 --> 00:28:20,750 what what kinds of demands are you 777 00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:22,917 expecting to see from Eastern european 778 00:28:22,917 --> 00:28:25,028 countries for what types of weapons ? 779 00:28:25,028 --> 00:28:26,861 Well because I assume they'll be 780 00:28:26,861 --> 00:28:29,310 working with D . O . D . Two on what 781 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:31,532 their needs are . Yeah and I think this 782 00:28:31,532 --> 00:28:33,699 is relevant to Bill's earlier point um 783 00:28:33,699 --> 00:28:35,699 and to what I was just saying about 784 00:28:35,699 --> 00:28:37,754 partners and allies , seeing some of 785 00:28:37,754 --> 00:28:39,643 these capabilities and action and 786 00:28:39,643 --> 00:28:41,754 expressing interest in acquiring them 787 00:28:41,754 --> 00:28:44,380 for themselves . We uh we cooperate and 788 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:46,279 coordinate closely with the State 789 00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:48,290 Department on this . So uh the 790 00:28:48,290 --> 00:28:50,401 announcement that they made yesterday 791 00:28:50,401 --> 00:28:52,290 uh you know , we of course had an 792 00:28:52,290 --> 00:28:54,457 opportunity to provide some input into 793 00:28:54,457 --> 00:28:56,457 and will be responsible in in large 794 00:28:56,457 --> 00:28:58,623 part for fulfilling . Um And those are 795 00:28:58,623 --> 00:29:00,846 ongoing conversations that we have with 796 00:29:00,846 --> 00:29:02,957 state that we have with the countries 797 00:29:02,957 --> 00:29:05,068 in question that we have with our own 798 00:29:05,068 --> 00:29:07,234 industrial base about what is possible 799 00:29:07,234 --> 00:29:09,179 to provide on what timeline . Um I 800 00:29:09,179 --> 00:29:12,020 don't think we know yet exactly uh what 801 00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:15,020 what each of these countries might be 802 00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:17,490 asking for . Uh this is sort of the 803 00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:20,160 starting gun for that process . But um 804 00:29:20,170 --> 00:29:22,940 you know I think certainly they're 805 00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:24,884 looking to learn lessons from what 806 00:29:24,884 --> 00:29:27,107 they're seeing in Ukraine and and apply 807 00:29:27,107 --> 00:29:29,273 them for their own security ? Thanks . 808 00:29:29,273 --> 00:29:31,440 We have time for one more . I like you 809 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,607 have a question if I was gonna have um 810 00:29:33,607 --> 00:29:36,810 in general um has the U . S . Promised 811 00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:38,921 to backfill any of the equipment that 812 00:29:38,921 --> 00:29:41,088 other countries have already sent into 813 00:29:41,088 --> 00:29:43,254 Ukraine other than any specific pieces 814 00:29:43,254 --> 00:29:45,477 of equipment the U . S . Has promised . 815 00:29:45,477 --> 00:29:47,588 Yeah I don't know that we promised to 816 00:29:47,588 --> 00:29:49,810 backfill . What we what has happened is 817 00:29:49,810 --> 00:29:51,866 it's leading to it's what Miss baker 818 00:29:51,866 --> 00:29:54,032 was just talking about is leading to a 819 00:29:54,032 --> 00:29:56,199 lot of conversations about FMS cases . 820 00:29:56,199 --> 00:29:58,530 So Country X may have provided um some 821 00:29:58,540 --> 00:30:01,100 some capability to the Ukrainians and 822 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,211 then they want to replenish their own 823 00:30:03,211 --> 00:30:05,267 with the next generation of it which 824 00:30:05,267 --> 00:30:07,267 may be a U . S . FMS case . That is 825 00:30:07,267 --> 00:30:09,378 that's kind of the conversations that 826 00:30:09,378 --> 00:30:11,600 are happening that MS baker referred to 827 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,767 um that we believe is coming at us but 828 00:30:13,767 --> 00:30:15,933 that's all I know . Yeah . And I think 829 00:30:15,933 --> 00:30:18,044 you know the conversation with each I 830 00:30:18,044 --> 00:30:17,840 think that I think that's largely right . 831 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,160 I I can't at least recall any specific 832 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,327 instances where we've made commitments 833 00:30:22,327 --> 00:30:25,560 of that nature . Um but the 834 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,449 conversation with each country is 835 00:30:27,449 --> 00:30:29,504 unique so some countries are looking 836 00:30:29,504 --> 00:30:31,671 for one for one replacements , right ? 837 00:30:31,671 --> 00:30:33,893 Where if they give a particular item to 838 00:30:33,893 --> 00:30:35,893 Ukraine they just want another from 839 00:30:35,893 --> 00:30:35,510 someone else whether that's us or 840 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:38,080 industry or another partner . There are 841 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,247 some countries I think who see this as 842 00:30:40,247 --> 00:30:42,413 an opportunity to upgrade and you know 843 00:30:42,413 --> 00:30:44,247 both of those are entirely valid 844 00:30:44,247 --> 00:30:46,413 approaches and and we're gonna look to 845 00:30:46,413 --> 00:30:48,524 support as many of our partners as we 846 00:30:48,524 --> 00:30:50,524 can . Great thank you all . I think 847 00:30:50,524 --> 00:30:52,691 we're gonna leave it there . It's it's 848 00:30:52,691 --> 00:30:54,580 it's time and enjoy your friday . 849 00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:54,830 Thanks all