1 00:00:00,150 --> 00:00:02,850 of U . S . Strategic Command . General 2 00:00:02,850 --> 00:00:05,017 Cotton . Thank you for your decades of 3 00:00:05,017 --> 00:00:07,017 service and willingness to serve in 4 00:00:07,017 --> 00:00:09,183 this important position . I would like 5 00:00:09,183 --> 00:00:11,406 to welcome your wife Marsha who is with 6 00:00:11,406 --> 00:00:13,930 us today . Welcome Marsha . I'd also 7 00:00:13,930 --> 00:00:15,986 like to acknowledge your son Russell 8 00:00:15,986 --> 00:00:18,550 and daughter Brianna who I'm sure are 9 00:00:18,550 --> 00:00:20,960 proudly watching . We are grateful for 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,340 their continued support of your service . 11 00:00:23,730 --> 00:00:26,500 U . S . Strategic Command stratcom is 12 00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:28,667 the principal command for ensuring our 13 00:00:28,667 --> 00:00:31,050 nation's nuclear deterrent is effective , 14 00:00:31,060 --> 00:00:34,280 safe and reliable . Today . Our nuclear 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,560 deterrent consists of a triad of 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,010 ballistic missile submarines , heavy 17 00:00:39,010 --> 00:00:41,490 bombers and land based intercontinental 18 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:44,740 missiles . This triad is the bedrock 19 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:47,010 not only of our national defense but 20 00:00:47,010 --> 00:00:49,010 also the security of our allies and 21 00:00:49,010 --> 00:00:51,240 partners who depend on the U . S . 22 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Nuclear umbrella . Integral to the 23 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,720 triad is a highly secure and 24 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,260 multilayered nuclear command control 25 00:00:58,260 --> 00:01:00,800 and communications or N . C . Three 26 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,530 system which connects the president to 27 00:01:03,530 --> 00:01:05,960 the nuclear forces successfully . 28 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:08,190 Maintaining this nuclear deterrent is a 29 00:01:08,190 --> 00:01:10,246 mission fundamental to our long term 30 00:01:10,246 --> 00:01:13,390 strategic competition with china and 31 00:01:13,390 --> 00:01:15,780 Russia . This mission has made 32 00:01:15,790 --> 00:01:17,920 especially clear throughout Russia's 33 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,490 assault on Ukraine . Russia has 34 00:01:20,490 --> 00:01:22,740 conducted out of cycle nuclear 35 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:25,530 exercises , issued inflammatory 36 00:01:25,530 --> 00:01:28,000 statements about tactical nuclear 37 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,380 strikes in Ukraine and continues to 38 00:01:30,380 --> 00:01:32,436 threaten nuclear power plants in the 39 00:01:32,436 --> 00:01:34,850 region . Vladimir Putin's behavior has 40 00:01:34,850 --> 00:01:37,470 been reckless to a dangerous degree . 41 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,130 China has also made significant changes 42 00:01:40,130 --> 00:01:42,670 to its nuclear approach . Not 43 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,750 constrained by the new start treaty . 44 00:01:45,750 --> 00:01:47,660 Beijing has built hundreds of new 45 00:01:47,660 --> 00:01:49,604 ballistic missiles and intensive a 46 00:01:49,604 --> 00:01:52,530 stockpile of more than 1000 warheads by 47 00:01:52,530 --> 00:01:55,260 the early 20 thirties . In the past two 48 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:57,440 years . We have also seen china 49 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,660 developed missile feels in hardened 50 00:01:59,660 --> 00:02:01,810 silos throughout the country . This 51 00:02:01,810 --> 00:02:03,710 development along with china's 52 00:02:03,710 --> 00:02:05,766 development of air delivered weapons 53 00:02:05,766 --> 00:02:08,470 and ballistic missile submarines in the 54 00:02:08,470 --> 00:02:11,420 south china sea fundamentally changes 55 00:02:11,420 --> 00:02:13,400 the nature of Beijing's nuclear 56 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,900 doctrine . We need to seriously 57 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:18,080 consider that we are entering a new 58 00:02:18,090 --> 00:02:21,090 trilateral nuclear competition era . 59 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:22,822 The Cold War was essentially a 60 00:02:22,822 --> 00:02:24,970 bilateral rivalry between the United 61 00:02:24,970 --> 00:02:26,960 States and the soviet union and 62 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,250 deterrence theory and communication 63 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:31,250 methods were developed based on two 64 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:33,560 competitors . Those rules now must 65 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,020 change with the ascendancy of china and 66 00:02:36,020 --> 00:02:38,430 its growing nuclear arsenal and General 67 00:02:38,430 --> 00:02:40,652 Cotton . I'd like to know how you would 68 00:02:40,652 --> 00:02:42,780 address this new deterrence dynamic 69 00:02:42,780 --> 00:02:45,290 involving not one but two near peer 70 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:48,480 competitors . If confirmed , you will 71 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,647 be responsible for not only the health 72 00:02:50,647 --> 00:02:52,591 of our triad and the n . c . three 73 00:02:52,591 --> 00:02:55,790 system but the 150,000 military 74 00:02:55,790 --> 00:02:58,560 personnel who operate them stratcom 75 00:02:58,570 --> 00:03:00,570 uniformed and civilian workforce is 76 00:03:00,570 --> 00:03:02,570 known to have the highest levels of 77 00:03:02,570 --> 00:03:03,959 personal reliability and 78 00:03:03,959 --> 00:03:05,860 professionalism . It will be your 79 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:08,480 responsibility to support them and 80 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,591 their families and ensure our nuclear 81 00:03:10,591 --> 00:03:12,480 deterrent can operate effectively 82 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,650 around the clock . Supporting your 83 00:03:14,650 --> 00:03:16,428 command is the national Nuclear 84 00:03:16,428 --> 00:03:18,900 Security administration or N . N . S . 85 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:21,230 A . Which maintains and develops our 86 00:03:21,230 --> 00:03:23,720 nuclear warheads . The organization has 87 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,770 over 40,000 technicians , engineers and 88 00:03:26,770 --> 00:03:28,714 scientists working at three design 89 00:03:28,714 --> 00:03:31,340 laboratories , one test site and four 90 00:03:31,340 --> 00:03:34,820 production plans . N . N . S . A . Will 91 00:03:34,820 --> 00:03:38,180 need your support as it experiences its 92 00:03:38,180 --> 00:03:41,030 highest workload since 19 eighties in 93 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:43,510 managing five major warhead programs 94 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,210 while rebuilding nuclear infrastructure . 95 00:03:46,220 --> 00:03:49,980 Finally , the 2022 nuclear posture 96 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:52,530 review has validated the importance of 97 00:03:52,530 --> 00:03:54,840 modernizing the triad , the N . C . 98 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,820 Three system and the supporting 99 00:03:56,820 --> 00:03:59,840 infrastructure at N . N . S . A . This 100 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,710 is the third historic cycle of 101 00:04:01,710 --> 00:04:04,540 modernization since the 1960s , you 102 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:06,596 will be responsible for ensuring the 103 00:04:06,596 --> 00:04:08,262 United States can deliver the 104 00:04:08,262 --> 00:04:10,207 capabilities needed to effectively 105 00:04:10,207 --> 00:04:13,670 deter our adversaries . Through 2070 106 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,870 general you will be undertaking 107 00:04:15,870 --> 00:04:17,592 enormous responsibilities . Is 108 00:04:17,592 --> 00:04:20,350 confirmed as I said earlier . The 109 00:04:20,350 --> 00:04:22,580 United States nuclear deterrent is the 110 00:04:22,580 --> 00:04:25,240 bedrock of our national defense . Some 111 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,407 have said that this deterrent is never 112 00:04:27,407 --> 00:04:30,140 used but that is a misconception . It 113 00:04:30,140 --> 00:04:33,970 is used 365 days a year . 24 hours a 114 00:04:33,970 --> 00:04:36,100 day . You will responsible for 115 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:38,380 continuing to ensure that the United 116 00:04:38,380 --> 00:04:40,491 States and its allies can deter . Not 117 00:04:40,491 --> 00:04:43,430 one but two near pier nuclear 118 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:45,150 adversaries , something your 119 00:04:45,150 --> 00:04:47,420 predecessors did not face . I look 120 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:49,253 forward to hearing how you would 121 00:04:49,253 --> 00:04:51,142 prioritize and meet each of these 122 00:04:51,142 --> 00:04:53,253 critical responsibilities . Thank you 123 00:04:53,253 --> 00:04:55,476 again for your willingness to serve our 124 00:04:55,476 --> 00:04:57,364 nation And I look forward to your 125 00:04:57,364 --> 00:04:59,198 testimony . Now let me recognize 126 00:04:59,198 --> 00:05:01,476 ranking member . Thank you mr Chairman . 127 00:05:01,476 --> 00:05:03,698 I also want to welcome General Cotton , 128 00:05:03,698 --> 00:05:05,531 thank him for his long service . 129 00:05:05,531 --> 00:05:07,600 General Cotton . Your predecessor 130 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,767 appeared before this committee several 131 00:05:09,767 --> 00:05:12,210 times over the past few years . Warning 132 00:05:12,220 --> 00:05:15,510 of the growing strategic threats that 133 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:17,720 we face as a nation . I think we all 134 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,820 understand that China is massive . 135 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:23,320 Military investments are shifting from 136 00:05:23,330 --> 00:05:25,430 the balance of power in the pacific 137 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:27,910 even as it builds the capacity to 138 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:30,770 extend its reach across the globe . 139 00:05:30,780 --> 00:05:34,760 Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine 140 00:05:34,770 --> 00:05:37,410 and its reckless threats of nuclear 141 00:05:37,410 --> 00:05:39,890 escalation remind us of some of the 142 00:05:39,890 --> 00:05:42,370 worst days of the Cold War . We 143 00:05:42,370 --> 00:05:45,290 effectively effectively resisting 144 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:48,290 china's and Russia's aggression 145 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:50,730 requires that we remain resolute and 146 00:05:50,730 --> 00:05:54,090 deal with the world as as it is not as 147 00:05:54,090 --> 00:05:56,510 we would prefer it to be . Which is 148 00:05:56,510 --> 00:05:59,870 sometimes a mistake . I was pleased 149 00:05:59,870 --> 00:06:01,759 that the administration's nuclear 150 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,730 posture review declined to reverse many 151 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:07,780 policy options that would have severely 152 00:06:07,780 --> 00:06:09,613 damaged our nation's deterrent . 153 00:06:09,613 --> 00:06:12,280 However , the administration's decision 154 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:15,290 to discard planned enhancements to our 155 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:18,190 forces . Even as china and Russia grow 156 00:06:18,190 --> 00:06:21,530 their arsenals was disappointing to say 157 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:24,750 the least . Your predecessor , along 158 00:06:24,750 --> 00:06:26,861 with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs 159 00:06:26,861 --> 00:06:28,972 and and other senior officers , voice 160 00:06:28,972 --> 00:06:31,230 their objection to these decisions and 161 00:06:31,230 --> 00:06:34,300 on a bipartisan basis , we have taken 162 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:37,220 steps to reverse those faulty choices . 163 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:39,760 Moving forward . We need to accelerate 164 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,710 the work of the right size of our 165 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,950 forces to meet strategic deterrence 166 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,110 requirements of the coming decades 167 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,760 trust . You will be advocate for 168 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,410 such efforts as the next 169 00:06:55,420 --> 00:06:58,470 uh Strat commander . Look forward to 170 00:06:58,470 --> 00:07:00,748 your testimony . Thank you Mr Chairman , 171 00:07:00,748 --> 00:07:02,803 thank you . Senator Inhofe . General 172 00:07:02,803 --> 00:07:04,803 Cotton . You're recognized for your 173 00:07:04,803 --> 00:07:07,890 opening statement . Good morning 174 00:07:07,890 --> 00:07:10,300 Chairman , read ranking member Imhof 175 00:07:10,420 --> 00:07:12,253 and distinguished members of the 176 00:07:12,253 --> 00:07:14,510 committee . It's truly an honor to 177 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 appear before you today as a nominee to 178 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,810 be the next commander of U . S . 179 00:07:18,810 --> 00:07:21,680 Strategic Command . I am very grateful 180 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,410 to the president Secretary of Defense 181 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:26,642 and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 182 00:07:26,642 --> 00:07:28,864 Staff for their trust and confidence in 183 00:07:28,864 --> 00:07:31,410 me for this nomination . I would like 184 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:33,521 to recognize the current commander of 185 00:07:33,521 --> 00:07:35,950 us strategic command . Admiral Chaz 186 00:07:35,950 --> 00:07:38,620 Richard and his wife Lisa for their 40 187 00:07:38,620 --> 00:07:41,110 years of selfless service to this great 188 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:44,140 nation . Joining me today is my wife 189 00:07:44,140 --> 00:07:46,510 Marcia . She has been my best friend 190 00:07:46,510 --> 00:07:49,340 and biggest champion for over 33 years . 191 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:52,170 A former collegiate athlete and school 192 00:07:52,170 --> 00:07:54,460 teacher , Marcia has been a remarkable 193 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:56,700 advocate for the men and women and 194 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:59,150 their families . She is an incredible 195 00:07:59,150 --> 00:08:01,317 source of strength and inspiration for 196 00:08:01,317 --> 00:08:04,860 me and my family not with us today , 197 00:08:04,860 --> 00:08:07,150 but always in our hearts is our son 198 00:08:07,150 --> 00:08:09,690 Russell , an intel analyst and our 199 00:08:09,690 --> 00:08:12,060 daughter Brianna , a recent university 200 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:14,670 of michigan law school graduate . I'm 201 00:08:14,670 --> 00:08:17,090 so proud of my Children for the past 202 00:08:17,090 --> 00:08:19,110 that they have taken to serve our 203 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:22,480 nation in their own unique ways . There 204 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,591 are two people who are no longer with 205 00:08:24,591 --> 00:08:26,750 us but whose absence I feel more 206 00:08:26,750 --> 00:08:29,450 strongly on days like today . That's my 207 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:33,140 mother , Amy and my father James . My 208 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:35,140 father joined the Army Air Corps in 209 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:38,150 1942 and fought in the pacific theater 210 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,327 before the establishment of the United 211 00:08:40,327 --> 00:08:42,549 States Air Force and served in both the 212 00:08:42,549 --> 00:08:44,730 korean and Vietnam wars prior to 213 00:08:44,730 --> 00:08:47,560 retiring as a United States Air Force 214 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:51,400 chief master sergeant . In 1974 . My 215 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,700 mother all five ft two inches of her 216 00:08:54,710 --> 00:08:58,010 was fierce , full of compassion and 217 00:08:58,010 --> 00:09:01,470 kept her boys . The chief and I in line 218 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,687 my parents are the foundation of who I 219 00:09:04,687 --> 00:09:06,909 am and I know they're looking down upon 220 00:09:06,909 --> 00:09:10,510 Team cotton with great pride last night 221 00:09:10,510 --> 00:09:12,566 I want to thank the men and women of 222 00:09:12,566 --> 00:09:14,788 Air force Global Strike Command and U . 223 00:09:14,788 --> 00:09:16,566 S . Strategic Command for their 224 00:09:16,566 --> 00:09:18,232 continued professionalism and 225 00:09:18,232 --> 00:09:20,870 dedication . Their dedication to this 226 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:23,110 mission is essential in a world where 227 00:09:23,110 --> 00:09:25,430 we now face to near peer competitors . 228 00:09:26,020 --> 00:09:28,420 We must deter the pacing challenge of 229 00:09:28,420 --> 00:09:31,140 china and address the acute threats 230 00:09:31,140 --> 00:09:34,080 presented by Russia . It is both our 231 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,540 conventional and nuclear capabilities 232 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:39,420 along with the crucial support from our 233 00:09:39,430 --> 00:09:41,840 allies and partners that underpins our 234 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,930 strategic deterrence . Our nation's 235 00:09:44,930 --> 00:09:47,620 nuclear forces continue to be safe , 236 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:50,040 secure , reliable and effective 237 00:09:51,710 --> 00:09:54,370 as we bring . The B 21 raider , the 238 00:09:54,370 --> 00:09:56,440 Columbia class ballistic missile , 239 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,860 submarine , sentinel , intercontinental 240 00:09:58,860 --> 00:10:01,350 ballistic missile weapons system and 241 00:10:01,350 --> 00:10:04,280 long range standoff weapon online . We 242 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,502 will continue to ensure the credibility 243 00:10:06,502 --> 00:10:08,450 of deterrence for decades to come 244 00:10:10,030 --> 00:10:13,040 underpinning all of this Is our nuclear 245 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,984 command control and communications 246 00:10:14,984 --> 00:10:18,550 systems known as n . c . three . While 247 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:20,383 the current system is secure and 248 00:10:20,383 --> 00:10:22,990 resilient modernization and sustainment 249 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,510 of this capability is just as important 250 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,298 as the weapons system platforms 251 00:10:28,298 --> 00:10:31,810 themselves . If confirmed . I will use 252 00:10:31,810 --> 00:10:34,150 my authorities to ensure that N . C . 253 00:10:34,150 --> 00:10:36,261 Three systems continue to outpace the 254 00:10:36,261 --> 00:10:39,220 threat we'll always build in margin . 255 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:42,080 We'll always have hedge the mission of 256 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,247 U . S . Strategic command is deter our 257 00:10:44,247 --> 00:10:46,024 adversaries and employ force to 258 00:10:46,024 --> 00:10:48,080 guarantee the security of our nation 259 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,880 and our allies . If confirmed I will 260 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,120 work with relevant agencies across the 261 00:10:53,130 --> 00:10:55,270 U . S . Government and within deal 262 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,100 collaborate closely with civilian 263 00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:00,320 leaders and directly with my fellow 264 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,700 combatant commanders as we monitor the 265 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:04,922 global threats and execute operations . 266 00:11:04,922 --> 00:11:07,144 In accordance with the National Defense 267 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:10,700 strategy I commit to commanding a 268 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:12,543 resilient joint force capable of 269 00:11:12,543 --> 00:11:14,780 conducting multi domain operations 270 00:11:14,780 --> 00:11:16,947 focused on deterrent aggression and if 271 00:11:16,947 --> 00:11:19,480 necessary defending this nation . I 272 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,591 look forward to working with Congress 273 00:11:21,591 --> 00:11:23,647 and the members of this committee to 274 00:11:23,647 --> 00:11:25,702 address strategic challenges of this 275 00:11:25,702 --> 00:11:27,758 great nation . Chairman Reed ranking 276 00:11:27,758 --> 00:11:29,980 member in hough . Distinguished members 277 00:11:29,980 --> 00:11:32,091 of this committee . It is an honor to 278 00:11:32,091 --> 00:11:34,313 sit before you today and I look forward 279 00:11:34,313 --> 00:11:36,536 to answering your questions . Thank you 280 00:11:36,536 --> 00:11:38,647 very much . General . I have a series 281 00:11:38,647 --> 00:11:40,591 of questions that are standard for 282 00:11:40,591 --> 00:11:42,258 nominees . Uh You may respond 283 00:11:42,258 --> 00:11:44,560 appropriately . Have you adhered to a 284 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,282 political laws and regulations 285 00:11:46,282 --> 00:11:48,820 governing conflicts of interest ? Have 286 00:11:48,820 --> 00:11:50,876 you assumed any duties or taking any 287 00:11:50,876 --> 00:11:52,931 actions that would appear to presume 288 00:11:52,931 --> 00:11:55,264 the outcome of the confirmation process , 289 00:11:55,264 --> 00:11:57,050 exercising our legislative and 290 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:59,390 oversight responsibilities . Makes it 291 00:11:59,390 --> 00:12:01,279 important that this committee its 292 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:03,279 subcommittees and other appropriate 293 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:05,057 committees of Congress received 294 00:12:05,057 --> 00:12:07,279 testimony briefings , reports , records 295 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,001 and other information from the 296 00:12:09,001 --> 00:12:11,520 executive branch on a timely basis . Do 297 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,130 you agree if confirm to appear and 298 00:12:14,130 --> 00:12:16,074 testify before this committee when 299 00:12:16,074 --> 00:12:18,140 requested ? Chairman ? I do do you 300 00:12:18,140 --> 00:12:20,307 agree when asked before this committee 301 00:12:20,307 --> 00:12:22,307 to give your personal views even if 302 00:12:22,307 --> 00:12:23,807 your views differ from the 303 00:12:23,807 --> 00:12:26,930 administration . Do you agree to 304 00:12:26,930 --> 00:12:28,830 provide records , documents and 305 00:12:28,830 --> 00:12:30,941 electronic communications in a timely 306 00:12:30,941 --> 00:12:33,274 manner when requested by this committee , 307 00:12:33,274 --> 00:12:35,441 its subcommittees or other appropriate 308 00:12:35,441 --> 00:12:37,552 committees of Congress and to consult 309 00:12:37,552 --> 00:12:39,774 with the request or regarding the basis 310 00:12:39,774 --> 00:12:42,320 for any good faith delay or denial and 311 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,080 providing such records ? Will you 312 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,136 ensure that your staff complies with 313 00:12:47,136 --> 00:12:49,358 deadlines established by this committee 314 00:12:49,358 --> 00:12:51,580 for the production of reports , records 315 00:12:51,580 --> 00:12:53,747 and other information including timely 316 00:12:53,747 --> 00:12:55,969 responding to hearing questions for the 317 00:12:55,969 --> 00:12:58,160 record . Will you cooperate in 318 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,160 providing witnesses and briefers in 319 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,160 response to congressional request ? 320 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,730 Will those witnesses and briefing 321 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:07,680 briefers be protected from Reprisal for 322 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:10,390 their testimony or briefing ? Thank you . 323 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:14,380 General General uh the 2018 324 00:13:14,390 --> 00:13:17,060 nuclear posture review recommended a 325 00:13:17,060 --> 00:13:19,460 supplemental nuclear system to the 326 00:13:19,460 --> 00:13:21,540 triad . A submarine launched cruise 327 00:13:21,540 --> 00:13:24,850 missile or slipping . And the 328 00:13:24,860 --> 00:13:28,700 2022 NPR did not pursue it . And what 329 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:32,020 are your views on the sub nuclear 330 00:13:32,030 --> 00:13:35,680 submarine launched missile ? Chairman , 331 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:39,640 thank you for the question If confirmed . 332 00:13:40,490 --> 00:13:44,090 My job is to be able to present 333 00:13:44,910 --> 00:13:47,021 the decision maker . The President of 334 00:13:47,021 --> 00:13:49,077 United States with a wide variety of 335 00:13:49,077 --> 00:13:51,980 options to be able to meet um 336 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:54,950 challenges that that we have seen to be 337 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,790 warranted due to a requirement um 338 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,822 in this case I would want to be able to 339 00:14:01,822 --> 00:14:04,040 present the maximum amount the maximum 340 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,480 capabilities that are available when it 341 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,250 comes to slip them in . I must admit 342 00:14:10,260 --> 00:14:13,710 that I would like to be able to do like 343 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,280 my predecessors before to make an 344 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,070 assessment on that . If it meets the if 345 00:14:19,070 --> 00:14:22,710 it is able to meet that capability gap 346 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,500 that is there . Um I'd like to be able 347 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:27,850 to see that and assess that . Um so I 348 00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:31,640 can make my bed military assessment 349 00:14:31,650 --> 00:14:33,920 on the specific weapons system itself 350 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,920 because I am not familiar with that 351 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,580 weapon system on the specifics of what 352 00:14:38,580 --> 00:14:41,290 it can do with the capabilities . Um to 353 00:14:41,290 --> 00:14:43,650 close the capability gap that we might 354 00:14:43,660 --> 00:14:47,300 perceive . Uh general . As I noted in 355 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:49,770 my opening statement , we're now facing 356 00:14:49,780 --> 00:14:53,300 a three way nuclear race uh 357 00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:55,900 which alters some of the traditional 358 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:58,320 notions of deterrence based on the 359 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,560 bipolar world of the Cold War . Uh If 360 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,560 confirmed , Do you believe that you 361 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,560 will have the sufficient forces and 362 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,616 capability to undertake this new and 363 00:15:07,616 --> 00:15:10,060 evolving mission ? Chairman , Thanks 364 00:15:10,060 --> 00:15:12,810 for the question . I'd like to answer 365 00:15:12,810 --> 00:15:15,190 that . two ways . 366 00:15:16,580 --> 00:15:20,320 The current force that we have today . 367 00:15:20,330 --> 00:15:23,830 Uh We're ready to to execute 368 00:15:23,830 --> 00:15:26,200 today . What I would say is if 369 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,830 confirmed and I know this is 370 00:15:27,830 --> 00:15:31,530 continually happening today is we must 371 00:15:31,530 --> 00:15:35,050 evaluate what the additional risks are 372 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:37,240 and what the adversary is doing to 373 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,760 ensure . Uh two things first 374 00:15:40,770 --> 00:15:43,380 uh to evaluate to make sure that the 375 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:46,450 nuclear strategy that we have within 376 00:15:46,450 --> 00:15:49,640 strategic command can meet 377 00:15:50,010 --> 00:15:53,520 the objective the national objectives 378 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,510 that are presented before us . So the 379 00:15:56,510 --> 00:15:59,080 first thing I would do if confirmed is 380 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,450 to ensure because sir , the first 381 00:16:02,450 --> 00:16:06,080 time Since 1945 , the first 382 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,980 time for for us as a nation , we have 383 00:16:08,980 --> 00:16:11,780 to near peer adversaries . We have 384 00:16:11,780 --> 00:16:15,110 always put together a nuclear 385 00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:18,780 defense strategy that has 386 00:16:18,780 --> 00:16:22,170 one nuclear peer , we were going to 387 00:16:22,170 --> 00:16:24,960 have to roll up our sleeves to ensure 388 00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:27,192 that we're doing everything we are that 389 00:16:27,192 --> 00:16:29,850 we can strategy wise within Strategic 390 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:32,150 Air Command . Excuse me between 391 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,400 stratcom to ensure that that we're 392 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,456 meeting the objectives to be able to 393 00:16:37,456 --> 00:16:40,160 have and take care of to near peers . 394 00:16:40,170 --> 00:16:42,281 First time in history that we've ever 395 00:16:42,281 --> 00:16:45,040 seen that . Thank you sir . Uh stratcom 396 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,096 is the joint staff lead for ensuring 397 00:16:47,096 --> 00:16:48,984 that joint force can successfully 398 00:16:48,984 --> 00:16:51,980 defend and prosecute electronic warfare 399 00:16:52,030 --> 00:16:53,860 which is now referred to as 400 00:16:53,870 --> 00:16:56,990 electromagnetic spectrum operations or 401 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,800 m so Russia has successfully used em so 402 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,970 in Ukraine and china has greatly 403 00:17:02,970 --> 00:17:05,400 expanded their capabilities . Can you 404 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,567 tell us this view , your views on this 405 00:17:07,567 --> 00:17:10,060 subject and if confirmed , will you 406 00:17:10,060 --> 00:17:12,530 ensure re serious your full attention ? 407 00:17:14,090 --> 00:17:17,220 Thank thank you chairman . Absolutely . 408 00:17:17,230 --> 00:17:21,140 So if confirmed , um it is going to be 409 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:24,980 a front burner item um within uh 410 00:17:24,990 --> 00:17:27,510 stratcom , you know , I know right now 411 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:29,320 that the executive D O D E M s 412 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,680 superiority strategic implementation 413 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,800 plan has been laid out um in which the 414 00:17:34,810 --> 00:17:38,070 commander of stratcom um is going to be 415 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:41,710 the lead and and that the direct report , 416 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,050 the direct report um to the commander 417 00:17:45,050 --> 00:17:48,920 of stratcom . Um That is something 418 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,820 that if confirmed , um I want to be 419 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:54,180 able to dive down and do a true 420 00:17:54,180 --> 00:17:56,347 assessment of what's going on with the 421 00:17:56,347 --> 00:17:59,210 M . S . Um I agree . Um It has 422 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:02,010 atrophied over the over the decades . 423 00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:04,540 Um and and now with two near peers , 424 00:18:04,550 --> 00:18:07,070 we're gonna have to understand how to 425 00:18:07,070 --> 00:18:09,403 attack that and how to attack it . Well . 426 00:18:09,403 --> 00:18:12,100 So um it is absolutely something that I 427 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:15,740 would uh look into . Sir . Thank you 428 00:18:15,740 --> 00:18:18,190 very much , Senator Inhofe please . 429 00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:22,550 Thank you Mr Chairman . I do 430 00:18:22,550 --> 00:18:26,130 have three questions . And uh and you 431 00:18:26,130 --> 00:18:28,400 have addressed all three of these , 432 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:30,632 give you a chance to elaborate a little 433 00:18:30,632 --> 00:18:32,550 bit more . If that's your desire 434 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,393 general Cotton , we all know how 435 00:18:34,393 --> 00:18:36,560 critical it is . We build our nation's 436 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,570 nuclear deterrent , but we're still 437 00:18:38,570 --> 00:18:40,780 years away from fielding any new 438 00:18:40,780 --> 00:18:43,690 systems . So in terms of your 439 00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:46,610 priorities , how important is it that 440 00:18:46,610 --> 00:18:49,780 we accelerate as much of the US nuclear 441 00:18:49,780 --> 00:18:53,120 modernization plan as soon as possible . 442 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,870 Senator , thank you for the question I 443 00:18:59,870 --> 00:19:02,050 think about it this way . So if if if 444 00:19:02,050 --> 00:19:05,600 confirmed , I think the 445 00:19:05,610 --> 00:19:09,570 challenge of Strategic command is 446 00:19:09,570 --> 00:19:13,420 to ensure that we sustain 447 00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:16,550 legacy system as we transition to the 448 00:19:16,550 --> 00:19:19,910 modern to our modernized systems . Um 449 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,100 that's gonna be key for us um in order 450 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:27,060 to do that . Um it's gonna 451 00:19:27,060 --> 00:19:30,790 take the it's going to take the full 452 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,320 power of government to be able to pull 453 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,431 that together , especially when we're 454 00:19:35,431 --> 00:19:37,320 talking about the sentinel weapon 455 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,590 system um and the Columbia and all of 456 00:19:40,590 --> 00:19:42,890 the five that I have under my purview 457 00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:45,140 um as a current Joint Forces Air 458 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:49,040 component commander um um working 459 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,570 for the Commander of stratcom . So 460 00:19:51,580 --> 00:19:54,510 being able to do that , sir , I think a 461 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,409 couple of key things are gonna be 462 00:19:56,409 --> 00:19:58,680 required from us . We're gonna need 463 00:19:58,690 --> 00:20:01,670 stable , predictable and adequate and 464 00:20:01,670 --> 00:20:05,170 timely funding . My job , if confirmed 465 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:07,440 as the commander of stratcom , is to 466 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,610 ensure that we also have stable 467 00:20:09,610 --> 00:20:11,820 requirements because what we're going 468 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:14,660 to see and what I think is gonna be um 469 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,620 great for us with the new modernized 470 00:20:17,630 --> 00:20:19,790 systems is the fact that we're by 471 00:20:19,790 --> 00:20:22,650 design building in a system that we 472 00:20:22,650 --> 00:20:26,050 know will last for decades because 473 00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:28,161 that's built into the system . So the 474 00:20:28,161 --> 00:20:31,550 modularity that we will see um will be 475 00:20:31,550 --> 00:20:34,870 able to keep pace with the threats that 476 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:37,060 we will see in the future . What we 477 00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:39,227 need to do in the meantime though , is 478 00:20:39,227 --> 00:20:42,470 to sustain the legacy system that's 479 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:45,140 still that is still safe , secure and 480 00:20:45,140 --> 00:20:47,720 effective as we make that transition . 481 00:20:47,730 --> 00:20:49,730 That's good . And I appreciate that 482 00:20:49,730 --> 00:20:53,520 very much the um it's 483 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,464 already been mentioned a couple of 484 00:20:55,464 --> 00:20:57,990 times , talking about the two peer to 485 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,890 peer adversaries . This is something 486 00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:03,057 that we have not done before . This is 487 00:21:03,057 --> 00:21:06,220 new . And uh even though you did 488 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:08,174 already address this , you've been 489 00:21:08,174 --> 00:21:10,063 asked this question , even by the 490 00:21:10,063 --> 00:21:12,063 chairman , I'd like to give you the 491 00:21:12,063 --> 00:21:15,950 opportunity to uh expand 492 00:21:15,950 --> 00:21:18,790 if you want to on on how we're gonna 493 00:21:18,790 --> 00:21:21,012 handle this . What's gonna be different 494 00:21:21,012 --> 00:21:24,200 about two adversaries ? Thank you , 495 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,390 Senator . What's different is 496 00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:31,950 to near peers that actually 497 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,220 act differently from from a doctrines 498 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:39,140 perspective , we understand Russian 499 00:21:39,150 --> 00:21:41,480 nuclear theory and nuclear doctrine 500 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,540 Minimum deterrence was what we thought 501 00:21:45,550 --> 00:21:49,490 of when we talked of China as recent as 502 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:53,270 2018 we have seen 503 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,930 um the incredible expansiveness of what 504 00:21:55,930 --> 00:21:58,208 they're doing with their nuclear force , 505 00:21:58,208 --> 00:22:01,610 which does not , in my opinion 506 00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:05,240 reflect minimal deterrence . They have 507 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,160 a bona fide triad now . So we're gonna 508 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,130 have to understand more deeply 509 00:22:12,140 --> 00:22:16,110 um the chinese nuclear strategy . 510 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,831 All right , I appreciate that . Now . 511 00:22:18,831 --> 00:22:22,130 The while the Chairman did talk about 512 00:22:22,130 --> 00:22:24,280 this before , I wanna frame the 513 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,840 question as my last question a little 514 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,896 bit differently , General Cotton , a 515 00:22:29,896 --> 00:22:32,940 number of the senior military officers 516 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:34,884 have testified to their support of 517 00:22:34,884 --> 00:22:36,830 continuing the sea launch , cruise 518 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,460 missile program , including the 519 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:41,571 chairman and the Vice Chairman of the 520 00:22:41,571 --> 00:22:43,640 Joint Chiefs , the Chief of Naval 521 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,210 Operations and the commanders of the U . 522 00:22:46,210 --> 00:22:49,060 S . Strategic and european command . Do 523 00:22:49,060 --> 00:22:50,880 you agree with 524 00:22:52,180 --> 00:22:55,560 not ? Do you do you agree with these 525 00:22:55,570 --> 00:22:57,990 leaders right now and and your 526 00:22:57,990 --> 00:23:00,070 colleagues that we should keep this 527 00:23:00,070 --> 00:23:02,940 program going ? And I'd like to have 528 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:06,170 you give it be as specific as possible 529 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:08,560 because we all know what the program is . 530 00:23:08,570 --> 00:23:11,620 We've all expressed ourselves on it . 531 00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:14,640 So I'd like to have your um your 532 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,440 thoughts on this . Yes , senator . 533 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:21,770 So so the chairman , the vice chairman 534 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:23,870 and the current Commander of US 535 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:26,560 Strategic Command um absolutely 536 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,190 understand where they are on the 537 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:31,520 endorsement of continuing 538 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,150 um from my perspective . Um I I 539 00:23:36,150 --> 00:23:38,094 absolutely understand that they're 540 00:23:38,094 --> 00:23:40,094 looking at the capability gap to be 541 00:23:40,094 --> 00:23:42,510 able to do that . The only thing that's 542 00:23:42,510 --> 00:23:44,960 different between they and I is I have 543 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,127 yet to do an assessment on the weapons 544 00:23:47,127 --> 00:23:50,430 system itself . Um but but I absolutely 545 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:52,652 understand where they are on being able 546 00:23:52,652 --> 00:23:54,930 to have a capability gap that is filled 547 00:23:54,940 --> 00:23:58,620 um that they have seen . Um I have seen 548 00:23:58,620 --> 00:24:01,610 that capability gap as well . Um And I 549 00:24:01,610 --> 00:24:03,721 endorse the fact that we need to fill 550 00:24:03,721 --> 00:24:05,990 that capability gap . Thank you . 551 00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:08,920 General , thank you Senator Senator 552 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,050 Shaheen please . Um Good morning , 553 00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:14,100 congratulations . General Cotton on 554 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:16,267 your nomination . Thank you to you and 555 00:24:16,267 --> 00:24:18,610 your family for your long service . Um 556 00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:20,970 I would like to begin by following up a 557 00:24:20,970 --> 00:24:22,740 little bit on Senator Inhofe's 558 00:24:22,740 --> 00:24:25,610 questions about the challenges with 559 00:24:25,610 --> 00:24:27,890 modernization and you talked about a 560 00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:30,057 dependable budget process . You talked 561 00:24:30,057 --> 00:24:32,279 about a whole of government cooperative 562 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:34,850 effort . What you didn't talk about is 563 00:24:34,850 --> 00:24:38,620 the supply chain and the challenges 564 00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:40,790 with making sure we have the critical 565 00:24:40,790 --> 00:24:44,500 minerals , the other um requirements to 566 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,760 modernize our nuclear arsenal . Can you 567 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,927 talk a little bit about what you think 568 00:24:48,927 --> 00:24:51,020 those challenges are and how you see 569 00:24:51,030 --> 00:24:54,050 the ability to impact that and what we 570 00:24:54,050 --> 00:24:56,383 should be thinking about as a committee . 571 00:24:57,180 --> 00:24:59,236 Thank you senator for the question . 572 00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:02,620 Absolutely correct . Um , as we are 573 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:04,731 seeing the modern , the modernization 574 00:25:04,731 --> 00:25:06,953 programs within the nuclear portfolio , 575 00:25:06,953 --> 00:25:08,787 I would venture to say that it's 576 00:25:08,787 --> 00:25:10,670 probably being seen across the 577 00:25:10,670 --> 00:25:12,392 Department of Defense , but in 578 00:25:12,392 --> 00:25:14,559 particular for the nuclear portfolio . 579 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,050 Um , even as we're seeing the industry 580 00:25:17,050 --> 00:25:19,570 partners to Herculean efforts and work 581 00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:22,910 um , in in in in in moving the programs 582 00:25:22,910 --> 00:25:26,000 along at a great pace . What we are now 583 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,610 finding is the realities of supply 584 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:31,660 chain Limitations and and supply chains 585 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:34,360 shortfalls . Um , we had a great 586 00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:36,590 discussion and and and a good example 587 00:25:36,590 --> 00:25:38,920 or some components that are us made 588 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,380 components with us made sub components 589 00:25:41,390 --> 00:25:43,900 that are still taking what would be on 590 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:47,430 average , maybe 10 days to 591 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,620 source , that are now taking up to 90 592 00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:52,300 days to source . So by definition , if 593 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,630 you look at what we need to do in in 594 00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:57,050 regards to maintaining a flow and 595 00:25:57,050 --> 00:25:59,300 schedule to get our new modernized 596 00:25:59,310 --> 00:26:01,320 systems online . You know , if you 597 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,370 introduce that into the flow , uh , 598 00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:06,324 those delays right . They're gonna 599 00:26:06,324 --> 00:26:09,210 cause me concern and I think it's gonna 600 00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:12,300 take everyone to understand how we can 601 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:14,580 close the gap on supply chain 602 00:26:14,580 --> 00:26:18,010 management and ensure that we can get 603 00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:21,960 the that supplies to the 604 00:26:21,970 --> 00:26:24,026 industry partners that are trying to 605 00:26:24,026 --> 00:26:25,970 modernize this force . And are you 606 00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:28,192 comfortable that we have the components 607 00:26:28,192 --> 00:26:30,026 that we're going to need , being 608 00:26:30,026 --> 00:26:32,248 manufactured within the United States , 609 00:26:32,248 --> 00:26:34,920 the materials that we need um , being 610 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,500 produced in the United States ma'am 611 00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:41,200 ma'am . I did until we started to see 612 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,670 the you know that kind of peek into to 613 00:26:44,670 --> 00:26:46,790 the schedule as being problems with 614 00:26:46,790 --> 00:26:50,050 supply chain . Thank you . Um 615 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,170 There is can you describe how 616 00:26:54,170 --> 00:26:56,820 you analyze the difference between 617 00:26:56,820 --> 00:26:58,930 strategic deterrence and integrated 618 00:26:58,930 --> 00:27:01,040 deterrence and how you see that 619 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,840 affecting your role if at all in terms 620 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,210 of the mission of stratcom ? 621 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,911 Yes ma'am . Thanks for the question . 622 00:27:09,911 --> 00:27:12,580 Um It's integral um Integrated 623 00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:15,210 deterrence um is a whole of government 624 00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:18,230 opportunity um In the in the way I 625 00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:22,050 describe that is it is I remember 626 00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:24,500 growing up and using the dime theory 627 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:27,280 when I was a young lieutenant but it's 628 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,391 using all instruments of power within 629 00:27:29,391 --> 00:27:31,613 within the government the United States 630 00:27:31,613 --> 00:27:34,540 um to afford us a deterrence factor . 631 00:27:34,550 --> 00:27:37,720 Um That makes it so we never have to 632 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,940 get to the day where where I have to 633 00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:42,520 execute the mission if confirmed um 634 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,830 from U . S . Strategic command . Um 635 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,650 Strategic deterrence to me um composes 636 00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:50,650 more than just nuclear deterrence . 637 00:27:50,650 --> 00:27:53,180 Strategic deterrence to me is has a 638 00:27:53,180 --> 00:27:56,000 conventional and a nuclear component to 639 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,140 it . Um And it is the backstop in my 640 00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:02,670 opinion um to ensure that we can deter 641 00:28:02,670 --> 00:28:05,520 forces um when called upon . 642 00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:11,200 So does the focus on integrated 643 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,790 deterrents change the role that you 644 00:28:13,790 --> 00:28:16,800 would have confirmed as the head of 645 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,330 stratcom ma'am I don't believe so 646 00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:21,680 because I think strategic deterrence is 647 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,920 an integral part of the overarching 648 00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:26,650 integrated deterrence that that that we 649 00:28:26,650 --> 00:28:30,190 all speak of . Thank you . Um one of 650 00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:34,110 the you know , as someone who remembers 651 00:28:34,110 --> 00:28:37,630 the Cold War very vividly and the focus 652 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,340 on the concern about nuclear 653 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:44,620 annihilation and the ability to 654 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:47,980 um destroy the world that way . 655 00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:50,550 And there was a lot of attention to 656 00:28:50,550 --> 00:28:54,140 that that has dissipated over the years 657 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:55,807 with some of the arms control 658 00:28:55,807 --> 00:28:59,000 agreements . And but I think as we look 659 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,889 at the war in Ukraine and some of 660 00:29:00,889 --> 00:29:03,056 Vladimir Putin's statements , there is 661 00:29:03,056 --> 00:29:06,260 a renewed concern about what um what 662 00:29:06,260 --> 00:29:08,770 the use of nuclear weapons would mean . 663 00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:12,960 Are there ways in which you think are 664 00:29:12,970 --> 00:29:16,870 um strategic command , our our 665 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:19,360 nuclear um triad 666 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:23,120 are helping to constrain what Vladimir 667 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,030 Putin does now in this war in Ukraine . 668 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,400 Senator thanks for the question . I 669 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,150 absolutely believe that our nuclear 670 00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:35,730 deterrent force held . 671 00:29:36,530 --> 00:29:40,360 Um we did not 672 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,040 see um Russia do anything with 673 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,180 our native or our our NATO 674 00:29:47,180 --> 00:29:51,100 partners . Um the rhetoric may have , 675 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,680 we may have heard the rhetoric . Um but 676 00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:57,500 I think at the end of the day , um 677 00:29:58,070 --> 00:30:01,250 Russia and china both understand that 678 00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:04,820 we have a strong um resilient 679 00:30:04,830 --> 00:30:08,430 nuclear force um that is offering 680 00:30:08,430 --> 00:30:11,250 deterrence to ourselves um and extended 681 00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:13,810 to turns to our allies . Thank you . 682 00:30:13,810 --> 00:30:16,410 Thank you Mr Chairman , thank you . 683 00:30:16,420 --> 00:30:18,364 Senator Senator Fischer , please . 684 00:30:18,364 --> 00:30:20,253 Thank you Mr Chairman , thank you 685 00:30:20,253 --> 00:30:22,810 General for being here today and thank 686 00:30:22,810 --> 00:30:24,699 you for being your willingness to 687 00:30:24,699 --> 00:30:27,160 continue your service to this country . 688 00:30:27,170 --> 00:30:29,990 Um I'd like to welcome your family as 689 00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:33,470 well madam . It's nice to see you here 690 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:35,710 and I know the sacrifices that you and 691 00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:37,654 your family make on behalf of this 692 00:30:37,654 --> 00:30:40,280 country as well . Thank you General 693 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,160 Cotton a lot of times in this committee 694 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,216 and on the subcommittee of Strategic 695 00:30:46,216 --> 00:30:48,320 Forces . Our main focus is on 696 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,810 modernization of our triad . Uh We also 697 00:30:51,810 --> 00:30:54,880 try to gain a fuller 698 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,620 understanding of the future needs that 699 00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:01,130 our military must have to provide for 700 00:31:01,130 --> 00:31:04,700 national security . And 701 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,050 we talk about things like slick . Um 702 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:11,140 and um the need that commanders such as 703 00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:13,940 yourself will have to have to provide 704 00:31:13,940 --> 00:31:17,660 options to the president uh when or 705 00:31:17,670 --> 00:31:21,150 if you are ever in that position , the 706 00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:23,910 more options you can present , the 707 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,253 better for the security of this country , 708 00:31:26,253 --> 00:31:28,142 the better for the people of this 709 00:31:28,142 --> 00:31:31,010 country But also under the duties and 710 00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:34,370 responsibilities of the Stratcom 711 00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:37,620 Combatant Commander . We need to look 712 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:41,220 at the importance of n . c . three . We 713 00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:43,960 have to look at the N N . S . A . Is 714 00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:47,290 supporting infrastructure as well . So 715 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:50,020 general , I think that when we talk 716 00:31:50,020 --> 00:31:53,730 about nuclear modernization um and we 717 00:31:53,730 --> 00:31:55,900 have that focus on the triad , on the 718 00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:59,520 weapons systems , the warheads ? Uh 719 00:31:59,530 --> 00:32:02,600 We we shouldn't forget we should not 720 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,322 forget about N . C . Three the 721 00:32:04,322 --> 00:32:07,020 architecture as well as the scientific 722 00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:09,810 and production infrastructure of N N . 723 00:32:09,810 --> 00:32:12,740 S . A . Can you talk about how 724 00:32:12,740 --> 00:32:15,180 important these elements are to the 725 00:32:15,180 --> 00:32:17,560 deterrent and the modernization 726 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,616 challenge that we're seeing in these 727 00:32:19,616 --> 00:32:22,460 areas as well , senator . I'd love to , 728 00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:24,414 you know , I'll start with N . C . 729 00:32:24,414 --> 00:32:26,526 Three . I know there's members of the 730 00:32:26,526 --> 00:32:28,692 committee that says it's that it's the 731 00:32:28,692 --> 00:32:30,859 it's the fourth of the triad , right ? 732 00:32:30,859 --> 00:32:32,970 It's the quad . I've I've heard folks 733 00:32:32,970 --> 00:32:35,970 say that um I call it the tapestry . 734 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,847 Um in my opening statement , you heard 735 00:32:38,847 --> 00:32:41,000 you heard me discuss and talk about ? 736 00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:43,160 Um It is just as important as the 737 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,104 platforms that we're talking about 738 00:32:45,104 --> 00:32:47,438 modernizing and that is absolutely true . 739 00:32:47,438 --> 00:32:50,750 Um The good news is um it is still a 740 00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:53,690 it's a resilient system today . Um 741 00:32:54,930 --> 00:32:58,590 What I like um having over 36 years in 742 00:32:58,590 --> 00:33:01,260 this business is the conversations that 743 00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:04,030 people like yourself and others also 744 00:33:04,030 --> 00:33:07,020 see it as just as important as 745 00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:10,300 the as the weapons systems that we that 746 00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:13,100 we often talk about . Um if confirmed . 747 00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:16,600 Um I'd use my authorities um 748 00:33:16,610 --> 00:33:20,430 at as everyone is aware the the neck 749 00:33:20,430 --> 00:33:22,597 or the N . C . Three enterprise center 750 00:33:22,597 --> 00:33:24,430 that is located within Strategic 751 00:33:24,430 --> 00:33:26,730 Command . Um And the commander 752 00:33:26,730 --> 00:33:28,563 Strategic Command having kind of 753 00:33:28,563 --> 00:33:30,230 oversight delegated oversight 754 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:32,730 authorities to be able to kinda make 755 00:33:32,730 --> 00:33:35,350 sure that we as a department are 756 00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:37,120 looking to ensure that we are 757 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,790 modernizing with next gen technologies . 758 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,400 Um I call it N C . Two over assured 759 00:33:42,410 --> 00:33:45,420 comms to ensure that we have um the 760 00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:47,253 state of the art , N . C . Three 761 00:33:47,253 --> 00:33:50,280 systems that we need for not only today , 762 00:33:50,290 --> 00:33:53,210 not only mid term but the future and 763 00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:55,432 that is going to be absolutely critical 764 00:33:55,432 --> 00:33:58,110 for us because I guarantee you that I 765 00:33:58,110 --> 00:34:01,380 want to ensure that we always outpace 766 00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:03,560 our adversaries who are also paying 767 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,838 attention to our N . C . Three systems , 768 00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:09,680 stratcom also has significant 769 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,230 responsibilities for the 770 00:34:11,230 --> 00:34:13,850 electromagnetic spectrum operations . 771 00:34:13,850 --> 00:34:16,640 Can you describe some of the challenges 772 00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:19,650 in this mission area and what stratcom 773 00:34:19,650 --> 00:34:21,594 is doing to help rebuild the force 774 00:34:21,594 --> 00:34:24,170 structure and the capabilities that we 775 00:34:24,170 --> 00:34:27,480 need ? Yes , ma'am . So so from my 776 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,480 vantage point as a joint Forces air 777 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,210 component commander , um I can only 778 00:34:32,210 --> 00:34:35,620 give my advantage of of of what I have 779 00:34:35,620 --> 00:34:37,842 in the Air Force side of the House . If 780 00:34:37,842 --> 00:34:39,842 confirmed . I would like to make an 781 00:34:39,842 --> 00:34:42,009 assessment on the entire portfolio but 782 00:34:42,009 --> 00:34:44,231 but from our vantage point , um I think 783 00:34:44,231 --> 00:34:46,970 we're a little behind and um um I don't 784 00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:49,137 think I know we're behind . Um but the 785 00:34:49,137 --> 00:34:51,303 good news is I know that we're working 786 00:34:51,303 --> 00:34:53,860 to try to close the gap on unless not 787 00:34:53,870 --> 00:34:56,480 paying attention to E . M . S . Um for 788 00:34:56,490 --> 00:34:59,800 for decades . So if confirmed um that 789 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,950 would be one of the one of the things 790 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:05,172 that that would be on on the plate that 791 00:35:05,172 --> 00:35:08,440 I would absolutely want to assess um 792 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,440 and be the greatest advocate that I 793 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,920 could be as the commander of stratcom 794 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:16,810 in ensuring that we have the the 795 00:35:16,820 --> 00:35:20,290 not the not pace um our adversaries but 796 00:35:20,290 --> 00:35:22,401 lead our adversaries in that domain . 797 00:35:22,401 --> 00:35:24,860 Thank you . I was going to ask you 798 00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:27,920 about also as as critics portray our 799 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,840 nuclear deterrence as a relic of the 800 00:35:30,850 --> 00:35:33,610 Cold War , but I will send that to you 801 00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:35,670 in a written question . Thank you . 802 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,736 Thank you . Senator Fischer Center . 803 00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:39,653 Please thank you . Mr Chairman . 804 00:35:39,653 --> 00:35:42,060 Welcome General Cotton and mrs Cotton 805 00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:46,030 uh as um part of my responsibilities on 806 00:35:46,030 --> 00:35:48,252 this committee to ensure the fitness of 807 00:35:48,252 --> 00:35:50,630 nominees for appointment to senior 808 00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:52,852 positions within the administration . I 809 00:35:52,852 --> 00:35:54,630 asked the following two initial 810 00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:56,852 questions of all nominees to all of the 811 00:35:56,852 --> 00:35:59,019 committees on which I served since you 812 00:35:59,019 --> 00:36:01,074 became a legal adult . Have you ever 813 00:36:01,074 --> 00:36:02,963 made unwanted requests for sexual 814 00:36:02,963 --> 00:36:05,080 favors or committed any verbal or 815 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,130 physical harassment or assault of a 816 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:10,290 sexual nature ? Have you ever faced 817 00:36:10,290 --> 00:36:12,512 discipline or entered into a settlement 818 00:36:12,512 --> 00:36:14,290 related to this kind of conduct 819 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,542 general . You've been asked a number of 820 00:36:18,542 --> 00:36:20,709 questions about silica men . And while 821 00:36:20,709 --> 00:36:22,598 some military leaders , including 822 00:36:22,598 --> 00:36:24,764 Chairman Milley , have expressed their 823 00:36:24,764 --> 00:36:27,098 support for slick . Um um several D . O . 824 00:36:27,098 --> 00:36:28,987 D . Officials including Secretary 825 00:36:28,987 --> 00:36:30,653 Austin , have expressed their 826 00:36:30,653 --> 00:36:33,110 opposition to the project . I share the 827 00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:35,610 concerns expressed by Secretary Austin 828 00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:37,564 that the development of such a low 829 00:36:37,564 --> 00:36:40,190 yield or tactical nuclear cruise 830 00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:42,750 missile is unnecessary and could lead 831 00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:46,500 to a dangerous new nuclear arms race . 832 00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:49,050 The United States should be a leader in 833 00:36:49,050 --> 00:36:51,420 international efforts to reduce nuclear 834 00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:53,310 stockpiles and prevent nuclear 835 00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:55,700 proliferation while still ensuring we 836 00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:57,970 maintain cutting edge capabilities to 837 00:36:57,970 --> 00:37:00,670 protect our national security . I know 838 00:37:00,670 --> 00:37:03,570 that you testified that you will make 839 00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:06,150 your own assessment as to circum end . 840 00:37:06,450 --> 00:37:08,840 I do want to ask you though , do you 841 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,340 agree that the United States has a role 842 00:37:11,340 --> 00:37:14,060 to play in preventing a new nuclear 843 00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:16,830 arms race ? And if so if confirmed , 844 00:37:16,830 --> 00:37:18,886 will you work with the Department of 845 00:37:18,886 --> 00:37:20,997 State to support the strengthening of 846 00:37:20,997 --> 00:37:23,730 diplomatic efforts to prevent nuclear 847 00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:26,400 proliferation ? Senator , thank you for 848 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,400 the for the question . I think that 849 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,920 that that we've into um what we would 850 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,750 call integrated deterrence . Right , So 851 00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:36,806 so as we as we talk about integrated 852 00:37:36,806 --> 00:37:39,120 deterrence , um I want to take all 853 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,287 instruments of power to to ensure that 854 00:37:41,287 --> 00:37:45,000 we can deter . So in regards to the 855 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,170 question that you asked , um my best 856 00:37:48,170 --> 00:37:50,281 military advice would always be to be 857 00:37:50,281 --> 00:37:52,830 able to present the commander in chief 858 00:37:52,830 --> 00:37:54,497 with a variety of options and 859 00:37:54,497 --> 00:37:58,260 capabilities . Um So so that's 860 00:37:58,270 --> 00:38:01,740 that's where I would be um if confirmed 861 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:04,430 as a commander of us , stratcom is to 862 00:38:04,430 --> 00:38:08,060 be able to offer as much capability and 863 00:38:08,060 --> 00:38:11,180 options to the commander in chief . Um 864 00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:13,301 But I do understand the question that 865 00:38:13,301 --> 00:38:15,412 you asked in regard to the Department 866 00:38:15,412 --> 00:38:17,523 of State , and the answer is yes , as 867 00:38:17,523 --> 00:38:19,690 far as integrated deterrence . I think 868 00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:21,579 it's key to that . Well , I think 869 00:38:21,579 --> 00:38:23,690 integrated different deterrence means 870 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:25,801 that we have a role to play . I would 871 00:38:25,801 --> 00:38:27,468 say a leading role to play in 872 00:38:27,468 --> 00:38:29,523 preventing a new nuclear arms race . 873 00:38:29,523 --> 00:38:33,340 Would you agree with that ? So , 874 00:38:33,340 --> 00:38:34,673 given the importance of 875 00:38:34,673 --> 00:38:36,784 nonproliferation , nonproliferation ? 876 00:38:36,784 --> 00:38:39,520 Are there other weapons or tactics that 877 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,560 can accomplish the same strategic 878 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,140 objectives as a command without 879 00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:46,630 creating new nuclear weapons , 880 00:38:47,930 --> 00:38:49,930 Ma'am ? Have confirmed that that is 881 00:38:49,930 --> 00:38:51,874 exactly what I meant by making the 882 00:38:51,874 --> 00:38:54,041 assessment to understand what would be 883 00:38:54,041 --> 00:38:57,210 the the gap filler in the capability as 884 00:38:57,210 --> 00:38:59,960 we were prepared to revamp the nuclear 885 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,420 triad or modernize the triad ? Wouldn't 886 00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:05,642 our efforts be better utilized focusing 887 00:39:05,642 --> 00:39:07,753 on that important mission rather than 888 00:39:07,753 --> 00:39:10,030 diverting resources and attention to 889 00:39:10,030 --> 00:39:13,830 sick amend Ma'am . 890 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,310 You know , I I appreciate the comedian 891 00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:19,430 what they have done for the for the 892 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:21,263 overarching modernization of the 893 00:39:21,263 --> 00:39:23,990 nuclear portfolio writ large . Um once 894 00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:27,180 again um I think if if 895 00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:30,850 confirmed um I still would like to to 896 00:39:30,850 --> 00:39:34,210 be able to assess and analyze . How do 897 00:39:34,210 --> 00:39:36,450 you broaden that portfolio to provide 898 00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:39,070 more options for the for the President 899 00:39:39,070 --> 00:39:41,660 of United States ? I think one of the 900 00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:44,750 concerns about the cycle man is that 901 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,450 it's going to be a highly expensive 902 00:39:47,450 --> 00:39:50,130 proposition . Whereas we are very clear 903 00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:54,120 on the need to um revamp they 904 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,200 tried to modernize so they going on the 905 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,660 Ohio class ballistic missile submarine 906 00:39:59,670 --> 00:40:02,060 originally said to be in service for 30 907 00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:04,530 years will be extended by the navy out 908 00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:07,160 to 42 years . These submarines will 909 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,240 begin to retire from the fleet As the 910 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,510 Columbia class comes online to replace 911 00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:15,090 them in the late 2020s . The warheads 912 00:40:15,090 --> 00:40:16,923 used on the submarines have also 913 00:40:16,923 --> 00:40:19,270 undergone life extension programs of 914 00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:21,530 their own in some cases adding an 915 00:40:21,530 --> 00:40:24,390 estimate of 30 years to their service 916 00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:27,460 life . What concerns do you have with 917 00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:29,870 service life extensions as we bridge 918 00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:32,290 the gap between aging and new 919 00:40:32,290 --> 00:40:34,910 technologies , ma'am ? Thank you for 920 00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:37,450 the question . Some regards with our 921 00:40:37,450 --> 00:40:40,730 incredible partners in N . S . A . Who 922 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:44,430 are doing this work for us . Um I think 923 00:40:44,430 --> 00:40:46,597 the question is we need to kind of see 924 00:40:46,597 --> 00:40:50,570 what what aging you you really see 925 00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:54,000 um from the asset and 926 00:40:54,010 --> 00:40:57,890 also um does a life extension , 927 00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:00,122 you know , solve the problem to get the 928 00:41:00,122 --> 00:41:02,970 effects that you want um from that 929 00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:05,540 asset . So if confirmed , I think 930 00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:09,320 that's part of what um I would assess 931 00:41:09,330 --> 00:41:12,490 um as being a member of the Nuclear 932 00:41:12,490 --> 00:41:15,920 Weapons Council as well um to to be 933 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,810 able to get an assessment to see . Okay , 934 00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:22,670 is it is it about um reuse or is it 935 00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:26,550 about new um and and further 936 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,671 so , so that's something I would have 937 00:41:28,671 --> 00:41:30,393 to make an assessment on uh if 938 00:41:30,393 --> 00:41:33,330 confirmed . Thank you . I thank 939 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,651 general cotton . Welcome and 940 00:41:36,651 --> 00:41:38,873 congratulations on your nominations and 941 00:41:38,873 --> 00:41:41,040 continued service . You know , we hear 942 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,151 the term arms race a lot , especially 943 00:41:43,151 --> 00:41:46,390 in the nuclear context . Um last time I 944 00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:48,612 guess we had a major arms race in which 945 00:41:48,612 --> 00:41:50,890 we actually contested the race was in 946 00:41:50,890 --> 00:41:54,020 the 1980s . And uh there aren't many 947 00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:56,340 senators around who are there then um 948 00:41:56,350 --> 00:41:58,406 Pat Leahy and chuck Grassley maybe I 949 00:41:58,406 --> 00:42:00,628 bet they took different views on it . I 950 00:42:00,628 --> 00:42:02,850 know what you joe biden took on it ? He 951 00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:04,906 continued to criticize Ronald Reagan 952 00:42:04,906 --> 00:42:04,860 for an arms race that was going to 953 00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:06,971 destabilize the world lead to nuclear 954 00:42:06,971 --> 00:42:09,082 war . Of course it led to nothing but 955 00:42:09,082 --> 00:42:11,560 victory in the Cold War uh , without 956 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,440 even firing a shot . Um Do 957 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,496 we get to decide whether there is an 958 00:42:17,496 --> 00:42:20,120 arms race or not ? General Cotton , or 959 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,160 does the enemy get a vote on that ? 960 00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:25,897 Thank you for the question , senator . 961 00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:28,820 Yeah , I would answer it this way . Um 962 00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:31,480 and it still goes back to the to the 963 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,702 options and capabilities that we should 964 00:42:33,702 --> 00:42:35,869 be able to provide to the commander in 965 00:42:35,869 --> 00:42:39,760 chief . So from from my best military 966 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,100 advice is to provide the capability And 967 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:45,830 options for for the commander in chief . 968 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,350 Um and I'd like to be able to provide 969 00:42:48,350 --> 00:42:51,750 the most capable options that I can um 970 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,270 in this regard . Yeah , that's why I 971 00:42:54,270 --> 00:42:56,440 said the last contested arms race we 972 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,440 faced was in the 1980s , during the 973 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,662 Reagan build up . Because we've been in 974 00:43:00,662 --> 00:43:02,884 an arms race with China for the last 30 975 00:43:02,884 --> 00:43:02,500 years . Unfortunately , we haven't been 976 00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:04,278 significantly contesting it and 977 00:43:04,278 --> 00:43:06,389 therefore China has been winning it . 978 00:43:06,389 --> 00:43:08,530 Um in the end , whether we enter an 979 00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:11,790 arms race is not really up to us , 980 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,022 what's up to us is whether we win it or 981 00:43:14,022 --> 00:43:16,133 we lose it . And if you ask me , it's 982 00:43:16,133 --> 00:43:18,244 much cheaper to win an arms race than 983 00:43:18,244 --> 00:43:19,911 it is to lose a war . It goes 984 00:43:19,911 --> 00:43:23,860 especially uh for nuclear weapons . Um 985 00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:26,037 General Cotton , I want to read to you 986 00:43:26,037 --> 00:43:27,648 a short excerpt from Winston 987 00:43:27,648 --> 00:43:29,814 Churchill's iron curtain speech , also 988 00:43:29,814 --> 00:43:32,780 known as the sinews of strength . Uh a 989 00:43:32,780 --> 00:43:36,500 sinews of peace speech less than barely 990 00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:39,050 six months after V . J . Day in Fulton 991 00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:41,050 Missouri Churchill says from what I 992 00:43:41,050 --> 00:43:43,106 have seen of our Russian friends and 993 00:43:43,106 --> 00:43:45,272 allies during the war , I am convinced 994 00:43:45,272 --> 00:43:47,494 there is nothing they admire so much as 995 00:43:47,494 --> 00:43:49,740 strength and there's nothing for which 996 00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:51,570 they have less respect than for 997 00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:55,020 weakness . Especially military weakness . 998 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,100 Do you agree with Sir Winston , that 999 00:43:58,110 --> 00:44:00,250 Russians have less , there's nothing 1000 00:44:00,250 --> 00:44:02,361 for which they have less respect than 1001 00:44:02,361 --> 00:44:04,694 weakness , Especially military weakness . 1002 00:44:04,694 --> 00:44:06,917 Do you think that's true of the chinese 1003 00:44:06,917 --> 00:44:09,028 as well ? I do think it's true of the 1004 00:44:09,028 --> 00:44:11,250 Iranians , I think of all of our Okay , 1005 00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:13,417 yeah , I thought so too . He continued 1006 00:44:13,417 --> 00:44:15,780 then , to say for that reason , the old 1007 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:17,970 doctrine of a balance of power is 1008 00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:21,040 unsound . We cannot afford if we can 1009 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,150 help it to work on narrow margins , 1010 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,050 offering temptations to a trial of 1011 00:44:27,050 --> 00:44:29,450 strength . To agree with Sir Winston , 1012 00:44:29,450 --> 00:44:32,130 that we should not offer temptations to 1013 00:44:32,130 --> 00:44:34,297 a trial of strength to our adversaries 1014 00:44:34,297 --> 00:44:36,130 by operating on narrow margins . 1015 00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:38,610 Senator . I think that we always should 1016 00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:41,490 we always should operate from a from 1017 00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:44,790 from a power of strength . And uh , 1018 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,440 those margins would narrow 1019 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,120 significantly given china's nuclear 1020 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,070 build up if china and Russia became de 1021 00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:54,930 facto or even day jury allies correct 1022 00:44:55,770 --> 00:44:57,910 To near Pier allies as opposed to 1023 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,210 adversaries as opposed to one . 1024 00:45:01,460 --> 00:45:03,627 Um there's been a lot of talk over the 1025 00:45:03,627 --> 00:45:06,980 last year that major ground war in 1026 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,260 europe between two nation states was 1027 00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:12,790 unthinkable . Um even after 1028 00:45:13,540 --> 00:45:15,762 Russia invaded Ukraine , such a war was 1029 00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:18,560 unthinkable . Obviously Vladimir Putin 1030 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,360 thought it was quite thinkable . Um Do 1031 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,249 you believe that a nuclear war is 1032 00:45:23,249 --> 00:45:25,310 unthinkable ? Not in terms of the 1033 00:45:25,310 --> 00:45:27,254 consequences it would have for our 1034 00:45:27,254 --> 00:45:29,421 nation and for the world , but for the 1035 00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:32,546 in fact whether it might happen as a 1036 00:45:32,546 --> 00:45:35,080 nuclear war . Unthinkable senator , 1037 00:45:36,250 --> 00:45:39,330 I think if confirmed the the role that 1038 00:45:39,330 --> 00:45:42,940 I that I would play as commander um is 1039 00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:45,710 to make sure that those 250,000 men and 1040 00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:48,310 women that that are supporting 1041 00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:50,980 strategic Air Command . Every I keep 1042 00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:53,560 saying strategic Air command forgive me 1043 00:45:53,570 --> 00:45:57,400 a strategic command um are 1044 00:45:57,410 --> 00:46:00,950 prepared to do what some folks might 1045 00:46:00,950 --> 00:46:03,100 think is the unthinkable . I think 1046 00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:06,290 that's right . I unusual and weighty 1047 00:46:06,290 --> 00:46:08,012 job and that I think it's your 1048 00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:11,340 responsibility almost everyday to think 1049 00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:13,673 what most people believe is unthinkable . 1050 00:46:13,673 --> 00:46:16,450 Um and think about what a nuclear war 1051 00:46:16,450 --> 00:46:18,450 would look like and how it would be 1052 00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:20,672 fought and therefore the best way to do 1053 00:46:20,672 --> 00:46:22,894 what we all want , which is to deter it 1054 00:46:22,894 --> 00:46:25,061 from happening in the first place . So 1055 00:46:25,061 --> 00:46:27,117 thank you General Cotton best wishes 1056 00:46:27,117 --> 00:46:29,283 for you in your new role . Thank you . 1057 00:46:29,283 --> 00:46:31,450 Senator Cotton , Senator King , please 1058 00:46:31,450 --> 00:46:33,561 Thank you . Mr Chairman , john Cotton 1059 00:46:33,561 --> 00:46:35,561 welcome . I'm sure you were briefed 1060 00:46:35,561 --> 00:46:39,480 before this hearing that uh the 1061 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,480 Russians again , 1062 00:46:47,770 --> 00:46:50,080 try it again . I'm sure you were 1063 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,000 briefed that that the chairman would 1064 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,180 ask you a series of routine questions 1065 00:46:55,180 --> 00:46:57,291 at the beginning and you went through 1066 00:46:57,291 --> 00:46:59,458 and answer them properly . I just want 1067 00:46:59,458 --> 00:47:01,569 to emphasize one of those questions . 1068 00:47:01,569 --> 00:47:03,569 Do you agree when asked before this 1069 00:47:03,569 --> 00:47:05,791 committee to give your personal views ? 1070 00:47:05,791 --> 00:47:07,736 Even if your views differ from the 1071 00:47:07,736 --> 00:47:09,458 administration ? That's a very 1072 00:47:09,458 --> 00:47:11,569 important question because we need to 1073 00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:13,850 know what your best military advice is 1074 00:47:13,860 --> 00:47:17,050 not colored by the views of the 1075 00:47:17,050 --> 00:47:20,250 administration , the president . Uh , 1076 00:47:20,260 --> 00:47:22,670 this is I just want to emphasize how 1077 00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:24,503 important this question is . You 1078 00:47:24,503 --> 00:47:27,340 answered it properly , but I just want 1079 00:47:27,340 --> 00:47:29,451 to have it in the back of your head , 1080 00:47:29,451 --> 00:47:31,618 uh , in the , in the future . And it's 1081 00:47:31,618 --> 00:47:33,729 going to be difficult . It's not easy 1082 00:47:33,729 --> 00:47:35,618 to , to say something that may be 1083 00:47:35,618 --> 00:47:37,784 unacceptable to some other part of the 1084 00:47:37,784 --> 00:47:39,951 pentagon or the administration . Uh in 1085 00:47:39,951 --> 00:47:41,900 in looking over my notes As I made 1086 00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,370 questions , I realized that all of my 1087 00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:47,590 questions involve changes in the 1088 00:47:47,590 --> 00:47:50,060 strategic posture . You've mentioned 1089 00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:51,949 several times . We've gone from a 1090 00:47:51,949 --> 00:47:54,116 bipolar world to a multipolar world in 1091 00:47:54,116 --> 00:47:56,004 terms of our adversaries that's a 1092 00:47:56,004 --> 00:47:58,338 strategic change . But there are others , 1093 00:47:58,338 --> 00:48:01,650 uh , just to run down a quick list 1094 00:48:01,660 --> 00:48:04,940 um electromagnetic spectrum and 1095 00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:06,884 electronic warfare you've , you've 1096 00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:08,810 touched upon . I realized there's 1097 00:48:08,820 --> 00:48:11,110 classified information here . But I 1098 00:48:11,110 --> 00:48:14,030 hope that you will commit to holding 1099 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,610 serious exercises on electronic warfare 1100 00:48:17,620 --> 00:48:20,640 and notify us of of how we're doing 1101 00:48:20,650 --> 00:48:22,428 because this is a new strategic 1102 00:48:22,428 --> 00:48:24,480 challenge . That I'm not sure we're 1103 00:48:24,490 --> 00:48:27,480 adequately accounted for yet . 1104 00:48:29,420 --> 00:48:32,020 So so senator for your first question . 1105 00:48:32,030 --> 00:48:35,910 Absolutely yes . Um My best military 1106 00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:39,370 advice presented to the committee um 1107 00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:42,410 for your for your second um is another . 1108 00:48:42,410 --> 00:48:45,620 Absolutely yes . We're going to have to 1109 00:48:45,630 --> 00:48:48,160 flush out through exercises as you 1110 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,720 mentioned uh to ensure we can find any 1111 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,720 blind spots and shortfalls and make 1112 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,380 corrections uh as warranted and as 1113 00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:57,800 required . So I wholeheartedly agree 1114 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,660 with you . Another area of strategic 1115 00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:03,892 change has happened in the last four or 1116 00:49:03,892 --> 00:49:06,003 five years and that is hyper sonics . 1117 00:49:06,003 --> 00:49:07,892 We thought of strategic forces as 1118 00:49:07,892 --> 00:49:10,170 nuclear weapons and nuclear deterrence . 1119 00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:13,700 Hypersonic SAR are a new our new 1120 00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:15,820 threat that r is a strategic threat 1121 00:49:15,820 --> 00:49:18,910 particularly for example the chinese uh 1122 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,480 putting a a glide vehicle , hypersonic 1123 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,240 glide vehicle in orbit . Which 1124 00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:25,830 radically changes things like how much 1125 00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:28,220 time we might have to react to to an 1126 00:49:28,220 --> 00:49:31,200 attack . Uh Do you view hypersonic c as 1127 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,320 a as a as a serious strategic challenge , 1128 00:49:35,090 --> 00:49:37,790 Senator . I do . Um and I see it as a 1129 00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:41,280 warning challenge . Um I think as far 1130 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,680 as when we have a conversation if 1131 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,370 confirmed um I I think uh my fellow 1132 00:49:48,370 --> 00:49:50,800 combatant commanders uh we'll have to 1133 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,022 have a discussion and understand how to 1134 00:49:53,022 --> 00:49:56,390 give uh kind of relook missile 1135 00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:59,260 defense , relooked missile warning . 1136 00:49:59,270 --> 00:50:02,450 Understand what a sensor layer looks 1137 00:50:02,450 --> 00:50:05,060 like that can achieve those effects to 1138 00:50:05,060 --> 00:50:07,560 give time because I need to give 1139 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,930 decision space um to to the decision 1140 00:50:10,930 --> 00:50:13,041 maker . Well I think it's safe to say 1141 00:50:13,041 --> 00:50:15,041 that the bullet on bullet theory of 1142 00:50:15,041 --> 00:50:17,208 missile defense is out the window when 1143 00:50:17,208 --> 00:50:19,097 you're talking about hypersonic . 1144 00:50:19,097 --> 00:50:21,950 Another area is cyber uh you've you've 1145 00:50:21,950 --> 00:50:24,117 talked about it , you've indicated how 1146 00:50:24,117 --> 00:50:26,339 important it is , particularly with N . 1147 00:50:26,339 --> 00:50:28,283 C . Three . Will you commit to red 1148 00:50:28,283 --> 00:50:30,506 teaming and pen testing and hackers for 1149 00:50:30,506 --> 00:50:32,440 hire to test the security of the 1150 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,830 systems that you're uh developing ? I 1151 00:50:34,830 --> 00:50:36,997 don't think you really know how secure 1152 00:50:36,997 --> 00:50:39,052 you are until somebody attacks you . 1153 00:50:39,052 --> 00:50:40,886 And I hope it's I wanted to be a 1154 00:50:40,886 --> 00:50:43,052 friendly attack Senator if confirmed . 1155 00:50:43,052 --> 00:50:44,950 Um That would be one of the first 1156 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,071 directions I would give to the neck . 1157 00:50:47,071 --> 00:50:50,530 Thank you . Uh final point again a new 1158 00:50:50,530 --> 00:50:52,474 strategic challenge or a different 1159 00:50:52,474 --> 00:50:54,363 strategic challenge . And I don't 1160 00:50:54,363 --> 00:50:56,474 expect really an answer . But perhaps 1161 00:50:56,474 --> 00:50:58,641 you could consider this for the record 1162 00:50:58,641 --> 00:51:00,752 that is non state actors with nuclear 1163 00:51:00,752 --> 00:51:02,950 weapons . The deterrent theory doesn't 1164 00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:05,061 work if you don't have a capital city 1165 00:51:05,061 --> 00:51:07,560 and if you don't care about dying and 1166 00:51:07,570 --> 00:51:09,514 we have a proliferation of nuclear 1167 00:51:09,514 --> 00:51:11,348 weapons and we have rogue states 1168 00:51:11,348 --> 00:51:13,514 developing nuclear weapons and nuclear 1169 00:51:13,514 --> 00:51:15,710 materials . The chances of those 1170 00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:17,821 materials falling into the hands of a 1171 00:51:17,821 --> 00:51:20,043 terrorist organization , it seems to me 1172 00:51:20,043 --> 00:51:22,266 are increasing gradually but steadily . 1173 00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,280 I hope you will uh give this some 1174 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,447 thought because it's a major strategic 1175 00:51:27,447 --> 00:51:29,558 challenge that doesn't fit within the 1176 00:51:29,558 --> 00:51:31,820 ambit of what has been our historic uh 1177 00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:35,130 deterrent strategy uh for dealing with 1178 00:51:35,140 --> 00:51:38,460 with nuclear threats , Senator , you're 1179 00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:40,460 absolutely right and and I will get 1180 00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:42,571 back with you if confirmed and and we 1181 00:51:42,571 --> 00:51:44,904 can have further discussions along that . 1182 00:51:44,904 --> 00:51:47,071 Thank you very much . Thank you . Mr . 1183 00:51:47,071 --> 00:51:49,238 Chairman , thank you Senator King . Uh 1184 00:51:49,238 --> 00:51:50,516 center rounds please . 1185 00:51:55,570 --> 00:51:59,530 Thank you Mr Chairman . Good morning , 1186 00:51:59,530 --> 00:52:01,900 General Cotton and thank you to you and 1187 00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:03,733 to your family for your years of 1188 00:52:03,733 --> 00:52:05,520 service to our country and your 1189 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,820 continued service in the future . Uh 1190 00:52:07,830 --> 00:52:09,441 General Cotton , I share the 1191 00:52:09,441 --> 00:52:12,210 perspective that the nuclear deterrent 1192 00:52:12,220 --> 00:52:14,109 is the foundation of our national 1193 00:52:14,109 --> 00:52:16,220 Security . In the past , I've asked 1194 00:52:16,220 --> 00:52:18,442 other leaders in the nuclear enterprise 1195 00:52:18,442 --> 00:52:20,570 to give their views in plain language 1196 00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:23,830 on the importance of our nuclear triad . 1197 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,650 So that the american , you know , 1198 00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:30,910 our american public um who really don't 1199 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,080 think about this on a regular basis , 1200 00:52:33,090 --> 00:52:36,110 can understand why we have hundreds if 1201 00:52:36,110 --> 00:52:38,332 not thousands of nuclear warheads . And 1202 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,970 can you explain it in such a fashion as 1203 00:52:40,970 --> 00:52:42,803 to why it is so important to our 1204 00:52:42,803 --> 00:52:44,748 national security that we not only 1205 00:52:44,748 --> 00:52:47,440 maintain but accelerate the investment 1206 00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:49,506 in the modernization of this nuclear 1207 00:52:49,506 --> 00:52:52,770 triad turnarounds . Thank you for the 1208 00:52:52,770 --> 00:52:56,750 question . I I think if if we were 1209 00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:59,070 to do a perspective on talking about 1210 00:52:59,070 --> 00:53:01,250 the three legs of the triad in 1211 00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:04,610 particular and how it is the backstop 1212 00:53:04,610 --> 00:53:08,480 and underpins . I think if if I was 1213 00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:11,630 at a town hall meeting , um how I would 1214 00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:14,910 describe that um to a local town hall 1215 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,970 is think about um 1216 00:53:18,490 --> 00:53:22,120 the bedrock of a 1217 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,130 feature and what holds the rest of your 1218 00:53:25,130 --> 00:53:28,190 foundation up . Um You know when we 1219 00:53:28,190 --> 00:53:30,870 have , when we're building a home , you 1220 00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:32,981 know you want to make sure you have a 1221 00:53:32,981 --> 00:53:35,520 steady , you know steady property to 1222 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,630 put the foundation on um for every 1223 00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:41,300 operational plan that the Department of 1224 00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:44,720 Defense has . Um it relies on the fact 1225 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,940 that strategic deterrence is going to 1226 00:53:46,940 --> 00:53:50,740 hold um to allow those other um 1227 00:53:50,750 --> 00:53:54,560 missions to accomplish if that does not 1228 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,690 happen . Um That's when you see that 1229 00:53:57,690 --> 00:54:01,370 deterrence fails . Um The way that we 1230 00:54:01,370 --> 00:54:05,370 accomplish that is through our triad 1231 00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:09,380 of having bombers um who are recall 1232 00:54:09,380 --> 00:54:12,050 a ble if if warranted um having 1233 00:54:12,050 --> 00:54:15,510 submarines um that can be used or 1234 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,420 having I . C . B . M . S um that are 1235 00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:20,960 readily available um for the decision 1236 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,410 maker to do that . Our adversaries 1237 00:54:23,410 --> 00:54:25,466 understand that and know that we can 1238 00:54:25,466 --> 00:54:28,300 hold them at bay . That is that bedrock 1239 00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:30,356 and foundation that is so critically 1240 00:54:30,356 --> 00:54:32,840 important for us in this nation . I 1241 00:54:32,850 --> 00:54:35,072 think it's sometimes we think about the 1242 00:54:35,072 --> 00:54:37,128 fact that we have great conventional 1243 00:54:37,128 --> 00:54:39,017 forces . But the reason why those 1244 00:54:39,017 --> 00:54:41,239 conventional forces can be effective is 1245 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,239 because everybody knows that in the 1246 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,406 back the hammer are the nuclear forces 1247 00:54:45,406 --> 00:54:47,406 which have been upgraded and that's 1248 00:54:47,406 --> 00:54:49,572 what I want to talk about next uh with 1249 00:54:49,572 --> 00:54:51,461 regard to our nuclear command and 1250 00:54:51,461 --> 00:54:53,461 control systems ? They've got to be 1251 00:54:53,461 --> 00:54:55,406 upgraded . We're in the process of 1252 00:54:55,406 --> 00:54:57,628 doing that now , What do you see as one 1253 00:54:57,628 --> 00:54:59,683 of the biggest challenges or what do 1254 00:54:59,683 --> 00:54:59,600 you see as the biggest challenges 1255 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,060 regarding the upgrading of our current 1256 00:55:02,070 --> 00:55:04,810 command and control structure . Thanks 1257 00:55:04,810 --> 00:55:08,400 for the question . Um as I said in my 1258 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,690 opening comments , my opening statement 1259 00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:14,210 articulated that it's a resilient 1260 00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:17,260 system today . Um I think moving 1261 00:55:17,260 --> 00:55:20,800 forward I see it as a continuance . 1262 00:55:20,810 --> 00:55:23,280 Uh you'll never close the book on the 1263 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,740 modernization of a of a com node . 1264 00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:29,860 Um so so as I see it 1265 00:55:30,860 --> 00:55:32,770 that I don't know if I see as a 1266 00:55:32,770 --> 00:55:35,960 challenge . Um but I but what we're 1267 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,710 going to be able to have to do is 1268 00:55:40,190 --> 00:55:43,850 I say move to a system using 1269 00:55:43,850 --> 00:55:47,360 21st century technologies that allows 1270 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,260 us to um to to have what I 1271 00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:53,630 called N . C . Three over assured comms . 1272 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,270 Um so being able to make it so I 1273 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,740 can we can message and and get 1274 00:56:00,740 --> 00:56:04,030 data to the war fighters in any 1275 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,590 situation . So I think that challenges 1276 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,440 um being able to to link the 1277 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,390 legacy systems with the modernized 1278 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,600 systems . But I'm I'm here to say that 1279 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,711 I'm quite pleased and the work that's 1280 00:56:17,711 --> 00:56:20,310 being done with N . C . Three next gen 1281 00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:23,310 if you will . Um so the team is really 1282 00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:25,550 really getting after it and I'm pretty 1283 00:56:25,550 --> 00:56:27,600 impressed on on the way forward on 1284 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,656 being able to close that challenge . 1285 00:56:29,656 --> 00:56:31,822 Thank you general And one last item in 1286 00:56:31,822 --> 00:56:33,933 that I wanted to visit with today and 1287 00:56:33,933 --> 00:56:35,989 and that is if confirmed you will be 1288 00:56:35,989 --> 00:56:37,933 the lead for joint electromagnetic 1289 00:56:37,933 --> 00:56:40,430 spectrum operations . The growth of 5G . 1290 00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:42,460 Technologies continues to add 1291 00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:44,850 additional requests for larger parts of 1292 00:56:44,850 --> 00:56:47,072 the band , some of which are needed for 1293 00:56:47,072 --> 00:56:49,980 national security . Now recognizing the 1294 00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:52,157 unclassified setting of this hearing , 1295 00:56:52,157 --> 00:56:54,268 can you explain to this committee and 1296 00:56:54,268 --> 00:56:56,379 perhaps to other folks out there that 1297 00:56:56,379 --> 00:56:58,490 are wondering why it isn't being made 1298 00:56:58,490 --> 00:57:00,490 more readily available but that the 1299 00:57:00,490 --> 00:57:02,657 pentagon and the Department of Defense 1300 00:57:02,657 --> 00:57:05,120 clearly is recognizing the need to 1301 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,231 protect certain areas of the spectrum 1302 00:57:07,231 --> 00:57:09,500 for national security purposes . Can 1303 00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:12,450 you share a little bit about the real 1304 00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:15,850 necessity of working in in a 1305 00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:17,582 consultive way really and in a 1306 00:57:17,582 --> 00:57:20,410 cooperative way with the FCC and the N . 1307 00:57:20,410 --> 00:57:23,710 T . I . A . In maintaining certain 1308 00:57:23,710 --> 00:57:25,821 portions of the spectrum for national 1309 00:57:25,821 --> 00:57:28,090 security purposes and how absolutely 1310 00:57:28,090 --> 00:57:31,750 critical it is . Senator . It is 1311 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,270 it is incredibly um critical , critical 1312 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,750 that we maintain and understand and to 1313 00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:40,810 be to be frank have others understand 1314 00:57:40,820 --> 00:57:43,210 the necessity to protect certain bands . 1315 00:57:43,220 --> 00:57:47,000 Um if confirmed . Um I would I would I 1316 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,660 would want to collaborate with the FCC 1317 00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:54,140 um and others . Um So we can maybe we 1318 00:57:54,140 --> 00:57:56,840 need a message better . Um for the for 1319 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,007 folks to understand exactly what we're 1320 00:57:59,007 --> 00:58:00,951 what we're talking about here on a 1321 00:58:00,951 --> 00:58:02,951 necessity and criticality of making 1322 00:58:02,951 --> 00:58:05,007 sure that we can protect those bands 1323 00:58:05,007 --> 00:58:07,490 that you mentioned . Thank you . Thank 1324 00:58:07,490 --> 00:58:09,323 you . General . Thank you . Mr . 1325 00:58:09,323 --> 00:58:11,323 Chairman . Thank you Senator rounds 1326 00:58:11,323 --> 00:58:13,546 Senator Kaine please Thank you Mr Chair 1327 00:58:13,546 --> 00:58:15,768 and General Cotton . Great to see you . 1328 00:58:15,768 --> 00:58:17,934 I enjoyed our visit yesterday and um I 1329 00:58:17,934 --> 00:58:19,823 think this has been touched on by 1330 00:58:19,823 --> 00:58:21,879 earlier senators and their questions 1331 00:58:21,879 --> 00:58:23,810 but I really was intrigued by the 1332 00:58:23,810 --> 00:58:25,866 discussion we were having about this 1333 00:58:25,866 --> 00:58:29,080 multipolar nature of the threat . So as 1334 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,750 you look at the triad we have to always 1335 00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:33,806 recapitalize and have it be strong . 1336 00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,560 But we have thought of the triad both 1337 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,727 in terms of our investment but even in 1338 00:58:38,727 --> 00:58:40,790 terms of our theory of deterrence or 1339 00:58:40,790 --> 00:58:43,140 our theory about what the triad means 1340 00:58:43,140 --> 00:58:45,140 to our defense . We sort of thought 1341 00:58:45,140 --> 00:58:47,850 about it as a triad with respect to one 1342 00:58:47,850 --> 00:58:50,600 nuclear competitor . Okay now we have 1343 00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:53,200 two nuclear competitors and evidence 1344 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,422 demonstrates that they are increasingly 1345 00:58:55,422 --> 00:58:58,080 working together the U . S . Policy for 1346 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,420 decades kind of said that china and 1347 00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:02,253 Russia would never get too close 1348 00:59:02,253 --> 00:59:04,380 because of a history of enmity and 1349 00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:06,713 different cultures and things like that . 1350 00:59:06,713 --> 00:59:08,824 But they're getting closer and closer 1351 00:59:08,824 --> 00:59:10,713 every day and often they're doing 1352 00:59:10,713 --> 00:59:10,420 things not only just the two of them 1353 00:59:10,420 --> 00:59:14,080 but with Iran North Korea sometimes 1354 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,510 with Turkey . So how should you be 1355 00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:19,621 confirmed that I'm confident you will 1356 00:59:19,621 --> 00:59:22,640 be how will you approach this analysis 1357 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,751 of the threat ? That is not simply an 1358 00:59:24,751 --> 00:59:27,850 analysis of the capacity of individual 1359 00:59:27,860 --> 00:59:31,360 adversaries but the fact that these 1360 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,100 adversaries are cooperating . Um and 1361 00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:37,322 that previous deterrence doctrines were 1362 00:59:37,322 --> 00:59:40,010 really built more around a bipolar 1363 00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:43,130 world rather than multiple competitors . 1364 00:59:43,610 --> 00:59:45,666 Thank you for the for the question . 1365 00:59:45,666 --> 00:59:47,777 You're you're absolutely right and we 1366 00:59:47,777 --> 00:59:51,060 touched upon it earlier , I think 1367 00:59:51,060 --> 00:59:54,500 what's key and it's it's you know as we 1368 00:59:54,500 --> 00:59:56,320 discuss it , it's it's multiple 1369 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,430 approaches to because um one um if 1370 00:59:59,430 --> 01:00:01,680 confirmed and I know the work is being 1371 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,847 currently done within stratcom because 1372 01:00:03,847 --> 01:00:06,930 as a J . Fac commander to stratcom um 1373 01:00:06,930 --> 01:00:10,800 offering input to that today . Um but 1374 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,210 if confirmed , um that assessment has 1375 01:00:13,210 --> 01:00:15,850 to continue because when we talk about , 1376 01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:17,916 as you said as we talk about nuclear 1377 01:00:17,916 --> 01:00:20,600 doctrine , nuclear doctrine is with 11 1378 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,610 near peer adversary . Um We are and 1379 01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:25,850 what that will drive is then that will 1380 01:00:25,850 --> 01:00:28,590 drive on . How do we meet national 1381 01:00:28,590 --> 01:00:32,540 objectives based on um the 1382 01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:35,690 strategic doctrine within the confines 1383 01:00:35,690 --> 01:00:38,150 of strategic command . Um 1384 01:00:39,490 --> 01:00:41,690 Then we have to then from my best 1385 01:00:41,690 --> 01:00:45,490 military um um advice , understand what 1386 01:00:45,490 --> 01:00:47,657 force shaping looks like in regards to 1387 01:00:47,657 --> 01:00:49,657 how do you meet the objectives that 1388 01:00:49,657 --> 01:00:53,050 would be given to us um from the 1389 01:00:53,060 --> 01:00:55,900 commander in chief , that's work that 1390 01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:58,720 has to be done . Um And I know it's 1391 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,690 being done today . Um But if confirmed , 1392 01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:04,300 um that is one of the first things that 1393 01:01:04,310 --> 01:01:06,570 that will dive into where I can get a 1394 01:01:06,570 --> 01:01:09,540 better understanding to your point of 1395 01:01:09,550 --> 01:01:11,780 what does it look like when you have 1396 01:01:11,790 --> 01:01:14,460 two near pure adversaries that act 1397 01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:17,420 differently um might work that might 1398 01:01:17,420 --> 01:01:19,753 work together , might not work together , 1399 01:01:19,753 --> 01:01:21,920 but we still need to understand um you 1400 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,976 know , how do you how do you execute 1401 01:01:23,976 --> 01:01:26,198 against that threat ? Thank you , joe . 1402 01:01:26,198 --> 01:01:28,420 Another thing we talked about yesterday 1403 01:01:28,420 --> 01:01:30,364 was a bomber Task Force missions . 1404 01:01:30,364 --> 01:01:32,476 There was just a completion of one in 1405 01:01:32,476 --> 01:01:34,309 South com with Panama Ecuadorian 1406 01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:36,476 partners . We've also done bomber task 1407 01:01:36,476 --> 01:01:38,587 force missions with european allies . 1408 01:01:38,587 --> 01:01:41,190 These are to show unity um to test 1409 01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:44,010 interoperability . Uh talk about what 1410 01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:47,090 those missions produce for our defense 1411 01:01:47,090 --> 01:01:50,690 capacity . Thank you for that . Um so 1412 01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:53,040 bomber Task Force , our bomber task 1413 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,320 forces that we currently do um on 1414 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,280 behalf of of our coke , on behalf of 1415 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,770 coke um um of which I'm the lead as the 1416 01:02:00,770 --> 01:02:02,826 Air Force global strike Commander to 1417 01:02:02,826 --> 01:02:04,770 present those forces to co coms um 1418 01:02:04,770 --> 01:02:08,280 through stratcom . Um it's been 1419 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,250 incredible because what it shows it 1420 01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:14,180 shows why we're the most powerful 1421 01:02:14,190 --> 01:02:16,301 military on the face of the earth and 1422 01:02:16,301 --> 01:02:18,190 that's because we have allies and 1423 01:02:18,190 --> 01:02:22,160 partners and and what it shows is using 1424 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,670 conventional forces . What strategic 1425 01:02:24,670 --> 01:02:27,650 deterrence is all about as well . And 1426 01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:30,910 there is nothing more gratifying than 1427 01:02:30,910 --> 01:02:33,370 seeing an ally or partner come up on a 1428 01:02:33,370 --> 01:02:35,560 wing of a B 52 that's doing an 1429 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,100 integrated mission over a cocom area . 1430 01:02:38,110 --> 01:02:41,580 And and and seeing the p a sentiment if 1431 01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:44,010 you will , senator come back from the 1432 01:02:44,010 --> 01:02:46,450 adversaries on how that mission went . 1433 01:02:46,670 --> 01:02:49,320 Um so it's a win win for ourselves as 1434 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,376 well as our allies and partners that 1435 01:02:51,376 --> 01:02:53,430 participate in those missions that 1436 01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:56,060 we're doing constantly across across 1437 01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:58,730 the globe . Thank you very much . I 1438 01:02:58,730 --> 01:02:59,730 yield back . 1439 01:03:02,740 --> 01:03:06,420 Yeah , thank you Mr Chair and thank you 1440 01:03:06,420 --> 01:03:09,540 General Cotton for being here today as 1441 01:03:09,540 --> 01:03:11,596 well as Marsha . Thank you very much 1442 01:03:11,596 --> 01:03:15,340 for for joining us . Um and I I enjoyed 1443 01:03:15,340 --> 01:03:17,396 visiting with you in the office . We 1444 01:03:17,396 --> 01:03:19,820 covered a lot of really great topics 1445 01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:22,420 important to the defense of our nation . 1446 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:25,980 And just a few questions here in this 1447 01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:29,130 committee , the 2018 National Defense 1448 01:03:29,130 --> 01:03:31,770 Strategy Commission had determined that 1449 01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:34,470 the United States might struggle to win 1450 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,910 or perhaps even lose a war with China 1451 01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:40,540 over Taiwan . This has been a big 1452 01:03:40,540 --> 01:03:43,710 concern of ours , especially in recent 1453 01:03:43,710 --> 01:03:45,570 months . Do you agree that the 1454 01:03:45,570 --> 01:03:47,626 president must have flexible nuclear 1455 01:03:47,626 --> 01:03:50,240 options to prevent conventional defeat 1456 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,600 at the hands of our adversaries in this 1457 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,490 particular scenario . Okay . And I 1458 01:03:56,490 --> 01:03:58,710 appreciate that . And I know that a 1459 01:03:58,710 --> 01:04:00,766 number of my colleagues have already 1460 01:04:00,766 --> 01:04:04,100 brought up um having a nuclear 1461 01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:07,570 deterrence uh theater nuclear forces in 1462 01:04:07,580 --> 01:04:11,410 Asia . Um so I won't go through that 1463 01:04:11,410 --> 01:04:13,632 again . But I just want to state that I 1464 01:04:13,632 --> 01:04:15,743 do think it is important that we have 1465 01:04:15,743 --> 01:04:17,910 those capabilities abroad , especially 1466 01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:21,390 in that region considering the scenario 1467 01:04:21,390 --> 01:04:23,890 that that we have seen through the 2018 1468 01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:27,200 National Defense Strategy and what we 1469 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,330 see occurring just in the Daily News . 1470 01:04:30,330 --> 01:04:33,280 So I just want to emphasize my support 1471 01:04:33,290 --> 01:04:35,410 for making sure that that we have the 1472 01:04:35,410 --> 01:04:37,940 capabilities necessary if we should 1473 01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:40,350 ever need those present in the indo Pay . 1474 01:04:40,350 --> 01:04:43,230 Com . Um Chairman Million Vice Chairman 1475 01:04:43,230 --> 01:04:46,860 Grady also wrote in june that 1476 01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:50,050 continued modernization and expansion 1477 01:04:50,050 --> 01:04:52,217 of the ground based mid course defense 1478 01:04:52,217 --> 01:04:54,330 system is critical to defend the 1479 01:04:54,330 --> 01:04:57,600 homeland from north korean missiles . 1480 01:04:57,610 --> 01:05:00,950 Do you agree that we must expand ? 1481 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,516 There's a lot of talk about 1482 01:05:02,516 --> 01:05:04,750 modernization , but do you agree that 1483 01:05:04,750 --> 01:05:07,840 we must expand , not merely modernize 1484 01:05:07,850 --> 01:05:11,170 homeland missile defense to take um to 1485 01:05:11,170 --> 01:05:13,281 actually make sure that we're putting 1486 01:05:13,281 --> 01:05:15,614 in check rogue nations like North Korea . 1487 01:05:16,190 --> 01:05:18,301 Senator thanks for the question . You 1488 01:05:18,301 --> 01:05:21,930 know , uh I I think when we talk 1489 01:05:21,930 --> 01:05:24,680 about missile defense , especially with 1490 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,070 the not only rogue nations but now with 1491 01:05:27,070 --> 01:05:29,160 two adversaries um near peer 1492 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,400 adversaries um that have different um 1493 01:05:32,410 --> 01:05:34,960 capacities and capabilities . Um I 1494 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,900 would agree that uh for the protection 1495 01:05:37,900 --> 01:05:40,370 of the homeland um more options is 1496 01:05:40,370 --> 01:05:42,650 better than less . Yes , more options 1497 01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:46,580 are are better and I know that we do 1498 01:05:46,580 --> 01:05:49,980 receive pushback every once in a while 1499 01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:53,220 on this idea that we need to expand and 1500 01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:57,220 modernize and it is extremely costly . 1501 01:05:57,420 --> 01:06:00,930 And just to emphasize to our 1502 01:06:00,940 --> 01:06:04,720 fabulous american um citizens that 1503 01:06:04,730 --> 01:06:07,590 Jim Mattis , uh the way he phrased this 1504 01:06:07,590 --> 01:06:11,180 in the past is America can afford 1505 01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:14,000 survival . I think it's very important 1506 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,111 that we continue to look at ways that 1507 01:06:16,111 --> 01:06:19,310 we can expand and modernize . Um 1508 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,120 and would you also agree 1509 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,170 that the capability to destroy hard and 1510 01:06:26,180 --> 01:06:29,930 deeply buried targets actually enhances 1511 01:06:29,930 --> 01:06:33,040 our deterrence by denying that our 1512 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,650 adversary um uh doesn't have 1513 01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:39,380 sanctuary from us nuclear 1514 01:06:39,380 --> 01:06:43,330 deterrence . Yes . And can you think 1515 01:06:43,330 --> 01:06:45,860 of examples where we might need to look 1516 01:06:45,860 --> 01:06:49,140 into that further ? Senator ? Thanks 1517 01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:51,084 for the question . I think there's 1518 01:06:51,084 --> 01:06:53,307 opportunities for us to understand what 1519 01:06:53,307 --> 01:06:55,307 technologies are available that can 1520 01:06:55,307 --> 01:06:57,029 give us potentially nuclear or 1521 01:06:57,029 --> 01:06:59,730 conventional um that can get after hard 1522 01:06:59,730 --> 01:07:02,410 and deeply buried targets and if 1523 01:07:02,410 --> 01:07:05,580 confirmed . Um um I would love to lead 1524 01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:08,100 the charge and be an advocate and 1525 01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:10,300 understanding . Thank you for that . I 1526 01:07:10,300 --> 01:07:13,370 appreciate it . And do you agree that 1527 01:07:13,370 --> 01:07:16,590 we should sustain the B-83 bomb until 1528 01:07:16,590 --> 01:07:19,480 we have a suitable replacement ? I 1529 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,840 think that we need to be able to have 1530 01:07:21,850 --> 01:07:25,400 uh an opportunity to provide options 1531 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,850 and if that's taken off the table um 1532 01:07:27,860 --> 01:07:30,027 then we no longer we no longer have an 1533 01:07:30,027 --> 01:07:32,193 option to provide . Yeah . Thank you . 1534 01:07:32,193 --> 01:07:34,890 Um I do appreciate that as well . And 1535 01:07:34,890 --> 01:07:37,960 then of course the president extended 1536 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,070 news start for five years when he 1537 01:07:40,070 --> 01:07:43,140 assumed office in your opinion in your 1538 01:07:43,140 --> 01:07:46,090 best um military opinion are U . S . 1539 01:07:46,090 --> 01:07:48,370 Strategic arms constraints prudent 1540 01:07:48,380 --> 01:07:51,410 given china's nuclear breakout which is 1541 01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:54,790 they are not party to the treaty and 1542 01:07:54,790 --> 01:07:56,623 Russia's arsenal of nonstrategic 1543 01:07:56,623 --> 01:07:58,734 nuclear weapons which are unaccounted 1544 01:07:58,734 --> 01:08:01,770 for by the treaty Senator . I think 1545 01:08:01,780 --> 01:08:04,900 whatever agreement or treaty that we 1546 01:08:04,900 --> 01:08:07,460 could do to prevent proliferation 1547 01:08:08,550 --> 01:08:12,100 um is good with a caveat 1548 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,510 that it incorporates every aspect 1549 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,950 of what the the sign an 1550 01:08:19,950 --> 01:08:22,280 agreement would be . So what I mean by 1551 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,010 that are you know weapons that are 1552 01:08:26,020 --> 01:08:29,550 currently not seen as strategic weapons 1553 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,840 um need to be added to that calculus . 1554 01:08:31,850 --> 01:08:35,580 Um So but but any agreement or 1555 01:08:35,580 --> 01:08:38,350 treaty that would uh prevent 1556 01:08:38,350 --> 01:08:41,390 proliferation across the globe . I am 1557 01:08:41,390 --> 01:08:44,280 for . Okay , thank you for your answers . 1558 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,940 And and I do appreciate the opportunity 1559 01:08:46,940 --> 01:08:49,107 to sit down with you in the office the 1560 01:08:49,107 --> 01:08:51,330 other day and and look forward to 1561 01:08:51,330 --> 01:08:53,680 hearing more from you . Um I as well 1562 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,640 growing up in southwest Iowa um I also 1563 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,696 have been known to call it Strategic 1564 01:08:59,696 --> 01:09:02,560 Air Command so with you . But thank you 1565 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,782 very much for your time today . General 1566 01:09:04,782 --> 01:09:06,671 thank you . Senator . Thank you . 1567 01:09:06,671 --> 01:09:08,727 Senator ernst Senator scott please ? 1568 01:09:08,727 --> 01:09:10,830 Thank you . Chairman Reed Joe 1st . 1569 01:09:10,830 --> 01:09:12,441 Thanks for your service . Uh 1570 01:09:12,441 --> 01:09:14,497 congratulations on your nomination . 1571 01:09:14,497 --> 01:09:16,830 Thank you for your willingness to serve . 1572 01:09:16,830 --> 01:09:19,280 So , so here's what here's what informs 1573 01:09:19,290 --> 01:09:21,123 most most of my work here on the 1574 01:09:21,123 --> 01:09:23,290 committee . Um First United States has 1575 01:09:23,290 --> 01:09:26,020 several enemies um who have no interest 1576 01:09:26,020 --> 01:09:28,131 other than the harm us . Uh they want 1577 01:09:28,131 --> 01:09:30,353 us to be weak , independent and without 1578 01:09:30,353 --> 01:09:32,242 allies . And you talked about the 1579 01:09:32,242 --> 01:09:34,409 importance of our allies . Chief among 1580 01:09:34,409 --> 01:09:36,409 these enemies are China's Communist 1581 01:09:36,409 --> 01:09:38,510 Party and Vladimir Putin's regime . 1582 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,720 Secondary enemies wake up every day 1583 01:09:40,730 --> 01:09:43,310 plotting to harm us . They think about 1584 01:09:43,310 --> 01:09:45,460 it all the time . Putin's invasion , 1585 01:09:45,460 --> 01:09:47,682 brutal murdering , raping and pillaging 1586 01:09:47,682 --> 01:09:49,849 of Ukraine is , in his own words , his 1587 01:09:49,849 --> 01:09:51,793 fight against the United States as 1588 01:09:51,793 --> 01:09:54,016 though anyone really needed him to hear 1589 01:09:54,016 --> 01:09:56,182 what he's up to . Um jones secretary . 1590 01:09:56,182 --> 01:09:58,404 She contemplates the same thing for the 1591 01:09:58,404 --> 01:10:00,460 free and Democratic nation of Taiwan 1592 01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:03,152 third most countries in the world where 1593 01:10:03,152 --> 01:10:05,152 they actually like us or not , they 1594 01:10:05,152 --> 01:10:07,263 might be jealous of us . They do want 1595 01:10:07,263 --> 01:10:09,374 America to be powerful and capable of 1596 01:10:09,374 --> 01:10:11,430 deterring or defeating any aggressor 1597 01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:10,810 who tries to turn the world into their 1598 01:10:10,810 --> 01:10:13,540 own dictatorship . Most countries know 1599 01:10:13,540 --> 01:10:15,707 that there's really only two choices . 1600 01:10:15,707 --> 01:10:17,929 A world where communist china Putin and 1601 01:10:17,929 --> 01:10:19,873 the Ayatollah and maybe others are 1602 01:10:19,873 --> 01:10:21,984 making the rules for everyone are one 1603 01:10:21,984 --> 01:10:24,040 with a strong and independent United 1604 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,040 States that faces down . Aggressors 1605 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,151 helps those who help themselves leads 1606 01:10:28,151 --> 01:10:30,373 alliances and promote state sovereignty 1607 01:10:30,373 --> 01:10:32,429 and commerce . So if you would agree 1608 01:10:32,429 --> 01:10:34,596 with that and I think most of us would 1609 01:10:34,596 --> 01:10:36,762 agree with those . Can you explain why 1610 01:10:36,762 --> 01:10:38,762 the United States would not want to 1611 01:10:38,762 --> 01:10:40,707 have the most modern and expansive 1612 01:10:40,707 --> 01:10:42,873 nuclear and strategic weapons we could 1613 01:10:42,873 --> 01:10:46,040 have . So I do agree with that . Um 1614 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,130 and and and to be frank , I am really 1615 01:10:49,130 --> 01:10:51,390 happy with what this committee has done 1616 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,780 um in regards to where we are on a 1617 01:10:53,780 --> 01:10:56,920 nuclear modernization front today ? Um 1618 01:10:58,140 --> 01:11:01,530 You know , are we late to need ? 1619 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,340 Yes . Are are we are we getting after 1620 01:11:06,340 --> 01:11:09,900 it now ? Absolutely . Um Are we 1621 01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:12,450 are we in a position where we can 1622 01:11:12,460 --> 01:11:16,350 ensure that we have um um a 1623 01:11:16,350 --> 01:11:19,910 portfolio that can that can 1624 01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:22,580 module arise and meet the needs in the 1625 01:11:22,580 --> 01:11:25,900 future ? I think we do senator . Um but 1626 01:11:25,900 --> 01:11:28,340 I agree with you . Um I'm about the 1627 01:11:28,340 --> 01:11:31,610 strong and not about the week . So um 1628 01:11:31,610 --> 01:11:35,430 as if confirmed um that's my position . 1629 01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:37,319 I I want to be from a position of 1630 01:11:37,319 --> 01:11:39,208 strength , not from a position of 1631 01:11:39,208 --> 01:11:41,790 weakness . So would you agree we ought 1632 01:11:41,790 --> 01:11:44,012 to accelerate our nuclear modernization 1633 01:11:44,012 --> 01:11:47,480 plan as much as we can sir . If that's 1634 01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:51,440 possible . Let's do it after your 1635 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,662 many years of experience , you know who 1636 01:11:53,662 --> 01:11:55,718 our enemies are and what they want , 1637 01:11:55,718 --> 01:11:57,773 what they're capable of doing . Um , 1638 01:11:57,773 --> 01:11:59,940 you don't live in ivory tower academic 1639 01:11:59,940 --> 01:11:59,910 bubble where you can tease out theories 1640 01:11:59,910 --> 01:12:02,500 of disarmament and hope it all sort of 1641 01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:05,480 goes well . Um , so if you're confirmed , 1642 01:12:05,490 --> 01:12:08,340 which I believe you will be and this is 1643 01:12:08,340 --> 01:12:10,396 not a diplomatic role role . Right ? 1644 01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:13,652 His role is not being a diplomat . Your 1645 01:12:13,652 --> 01:12:15,486 role , your your role is to be a 1646 01:12:15,486 --> 01:12:17,652 fighter . If confirmed . My role is to 1647 01:12:17,652 --> 01:12:19,708 be a combatant commander . Your your 1648 01:12:19,708 --> 01:12:21,652 goal is to scare the living out of 1649 01:12:21,652 --> 01:12:24,040 everybody . Yes sir . 1650 01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:27,440 Um would you agree that the US 1651 01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:29,384 president should have a variety of 1652 01:12:29,384 --> 01:12:31,384 strategic weapons and stockpiles so 1653 01:12:31,384 --> 01:12:33,440 large that no enemy would even think 1654 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:36,760 about trying to attack America ? I 1655 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,927 think we need to have a stockpile that 1656 01:12:38,927 --> 01:12:41,570 is credible and capable . Absolutely . 1657 01:12:42,210 --> 01:12:45,990 And um Senator King brought this . Our 1658 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,111 king brought this up earlier . Uh , I 1659 01:12:48,111 --> 01:12:51,470 do appreciate the more direct and 1660 01:12:51,470 --> 01:12:53,359 honest people can be when they're 1661 01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:55,192 testifying . Uh , I know there's 1662 01:12:55,192 --> 01:12:57,026 probably a lot of pressure to do 1663 01:12:57,026 --> 01:12:59,192 whatever administration , whatever the 1664 01:12:59,192 --> 01:13:01,414 administration is wants you to do . But 1665 01:13:01,414 --> 01:13:03,526 I do appreciate as much as you can to 1666 01:13:03,526 --> 01:13:03,120 be direct because all of us are trying 1667 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,231 to make the best decisions we can and 1668 01:13:05,231 --> 01:13:07,287 you're the expert . So thank you and 1669 01:13:07,287 --> 01:13:09,231 thanks for your service . I'm glad 1670 01:13:09,231 --> 01:13:11,398 you're gonna serve continue to serve . 1671 01:13:11,398 --> 01:13:13,287 Thank you . Senator , thank you . 1672 01:13:13,287 --> 01:13:15,398 Senator scott . Uh Senator Rosen when 1673 01:13:15,398 --> 01:13:16,620 you're ready please . 1674 01:13:29,070 --> 01:13:31,590 There it is . Thank you . MR Chairman 1675 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,810 uh appreciate that . Thank you General 1676 01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:37,040 Cotton for testifying today for your 1677 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,100 willingness to continue to serve . 1678 01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:41,080 Really appreciate you . And so of 1679 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,191 course I hail from the great state of 1680 01:13:43,191 --> 01:13:45,480 Nevada and uh I want to talk a little 1681 01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:47,647 bit about the Nevada national Security 1682 01:13:47,647 --> 01:13:49,813 site , the infrastructure upgrades and 1683 01:13:49,813 --> 01:13:53,280 how important of course it is uh to our 1684 01:13:53,290 --> 01:13:57,040 nuclear mission . And um I've talked 1685 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,262 about this a lot in this committee that 1686 01:13:59,262 --> 01:14:01,151 the Nevada national Security site 1687 01:14:01,151 --> 01:14:03,420 oversees the stockpile stewardship 1688 01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:06,000 program principally at Are you won a 1689 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,800 facility which is of course an 1690 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,022 underground laboratory where scientists 1691 01:14:10,022 --> 01:14:12,630 conduct those sub critical experiments 1692 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,430 that verify the safety and reliability 1693 01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:18,140 of our nuclear stockpile without And 1694 01:14:18,140 --> 01:14:20,307 I'm going to repeat this again without 1695 01:14:20,307 --> 01:14:23,620 explosive testing . And so you won a is 1696 01:14:23,620 --> 01:14:25,950 undergoing major construction . That 1697 01:14:25,950 --> 01:14:28,180 project is soon gonna hold the most 1698 01:14:28,180 --> 01:14:31,930 weapons capable radiographic system in 1699 01:14:31,940 --> 01:14:35,100 the world . However , the Nevada 1700 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:36,933 National Security Administration 1701 01:14:36,933 --> 01:14:38,680 currently faces significant 1702 01:14:38,690 --> 01:14:41,530 infrastructure delays including it our 1703 01:14:41,530 --> 01:14:43,800 Nevada national Security site . So 1704 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,022 General Cotton is the current commander 1705 01:14:46,022 --> 01:14:48,189 providing two of the three legs of the 1706 01:14:48,189 --> 01:14:49,967 triad . Can you speak about the 1707 01:14:49,967 --> 01:14:52,189 importance of the stockpile stewardship 1708 01:14:52,189 --> 01:14:54,400 program and if confirmed how you would 1709 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,710 plan to working with your fellow 1710 01:14:56,710 --> 01:14:59,540 Nuclear Weapons Council partners in 1711 01:14:59,540 --> 01:15:01,260 addressing the NN essays , 1712 01:15:01,270 --> 01:15:02,992 infrastructure , modernization 1713 01:15:02,992 --> 01:15:05,640 challenges and unfortunate delays . 1714 01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:08,551 Senator Rosen . Thanks thanks for the 1715 01:15:08,551 --> 01:15:11,120 question . There's nothing more 1716 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,440 important than the relationship that we 1717 01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:15,107 have with the D . O . E . And 1718 01:15:15,107 --> 01:15:17,690 specifically in N . S . A . Um as we 1719 01:15:17,690 --> 01:15:19,720 talked throughout the hearing , in 1720 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,200 regards to the modernization programs , 1721 01:15:23,210 --> 01:15:26,680 um , they're interwoven um , that the 1722 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,120 platforms mean absolutely nothing if I 1723 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,342 don't have the assets available for the 1724 01:15:31,342 --> 01:15:34,590 platforms . Um , so to your question on 1725 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,230 infrastructure , you're absolutely not 1726 01:15:37,230 --> 01:15:40,320 only the Nevada locations , but all of 1727 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,960 NNS A locations um are in dire 1728 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,680 need of upgrades and in their 1729 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,170 infrastructure . Um , that dates back 1730 01:15:48,170 --> 01:15:50,620 to Manhattan Manhattan project times . 1731 01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:53,850 Um , we're living in a different world 1732 01:15:53,850 --> 01:15:57,810 today . Um , as I keep saying , um , to 1733 01:15:57,810 --> 01:15:59,760 near pure adversaries , nuclear 1734 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,520 adversaries , um , we are going to have 1735 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,780 to ensure that the infrastructure um 1736 01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:10,480 are upgraded and are at the capacity 1737 01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:12,720 and capability to meet the needs of the 1738 01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,650 war fighter . You mentioned i as owning 1739 01:16:15,650 --> 01:16:18,000 two legs . Um , I have modernization 1740 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,530 programs that are gonna need uh , new 1741 01:16:20,530 --> 01:16:23,860 systems for them . Um , can't do that 1742 01:16:23,860 --> 01:16:26,340 without the , without the incredible 1743 01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:28,340 work of the men and women that that 1744 01:16:28,340 --> 01:16:30,173 that make up the N . S . A . But 1745 01:16:30,173 --> 01:16:32,229 they're going to need infrastructure 1746 01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:34,340 that allow them to be able to do that 1747 01:16:34,340 --> 01:16:36,451 type of work and not just bringing up 1748 01:16:36,451 --> 01:16:38,340 to today's standards , but really 1749 01:16:38,340 --> 01:16:40,570 preparing them for future challenges 1750 01:16:40,570 --> 01:16:42,690 and innovation that we so desperately 1751 01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:45,100 are going to need to compete . So thank 1752 01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:47,540 you for that because we do have to 1753 01:16:47,540 --> 01:16:49,429 think about the technological and 1754 01:16:49,429 --> 01:16:51,484 advancements with those advancements 1755 01:16:51,484 --> 01:16:53,262 also come advancements from our 1756 01:16:53,262 --> 01:16:55,500 adversaries . So that creates increased 1757 01:16:55,500 --> 01:16:57,860 threats as well . And so the Nuclear 1758 01:16:57,860 --> 01:17:00,027 Command control communications systems 1759 01:17:00,027 --> 01:17:02,193 of the United States , we know they're 1760 01:17:02,193 --> 01:17:03,916 connected through a network of 1761 01:17:03,916 --> 01:17:05,693 communications , different data 1762 01:17:05,693 --> 01:17:08,250 processing systems . Uh This could 1763 01:17:08,250 --> 01:17:10,590 possibly lead us vulnerable for cyber 1764 01:17:10,590 --> 01:17:13,440 attacks . And in fact in 2020 april of 1765 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:15,450 2021 the Department of Energy's 1766 01:17:15,450 --> 01:17:17,770 Inspector General audit concluded that 1767 01:17:17,770 --> 01:17:20,410 cybersecurity weaknesses they really do 1768 01:17:20,410 --> 01:17:22,410 persist throughout the department's 1769 01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:24,521 unclassified networks including those 1770 01:17:24,521 --> 01:17:27,920 of the National Nuclear Security 1771 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,480 Administration . So recent news , we've 1772 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:32,424 highlighted significant efforts by 1773 01:17:32,424 --> 01:17:34,390 Huawei to build telecommunication 1774 01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:36,723 structures right near our I . C . B . M . 1775 01:17:36,723 --> 01:17:39,650 Fields , possibly uh interrupt our 1776 01:17:39,650 --> 01:17:41,750 forces or our systems . And can you 1777 01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:43,890 talk about these potential threats , 1778 01:17:44,110 --> 01:17:47,810 cyber threats ? Um Maybe not directly 1779 01:17:47,810 --> 01:17:49,830 but even nearby where some of our 1780 01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:52,840 critical assets are located . Thank you 1781 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,290 senator for the question . So so we are 1782 01:17:55,300 --> 01:17:59,130 um really paying attention to what 1783 01:17:59,130 --> 01:18:03,000 we're seeing is as as a chinese are are 1784 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,790 taking advantage of some of the 1785 01:18:05,790 --> 01:18:08,100 opportunities that they can have . Um 1786 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,460 some locations that are near near are 1787 01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:12,692 in particularly some of our I . C . B . 1788 01:18:12,692 --> 01:18:15,400 M . Sites . Um So we are we're we're 1789 01:18:15,410 --> 01:18:17,940 absolutely looking into that um to your 1790 01:18:17,940 --> 01:18:21,120 point on on cybersecurity , You know as 1791 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,330 people talk about N . C . Three um You 1792 01:18:24,330 --> 01:18:26,710 know I think your point is well taken . 1793 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,500 It's also you know any other um 1794 01:18:30,510 --> 01:18:34,070 support um in the 1795 01:18:34,340 --> 01:18:38,240 in the architecture of of us the 1796 01:18:38,250 --> 01:18:41,750 nuclear community um like N . N . S . A . 1797 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,780 To ensure that that they're that 1798 01:18:43,780 --> 01:18:47,620 they're just as cyber safe um as uh 1799 01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:50,700 N . C . Two platform would be . Um So 1800 01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:53,070 if confirmed um as part of the nuke 1801 01:18:53,070 --> 01:18:56,740 weapons council as a member um I think 1802 01:18:56,740 --> 01:18:58,462 that is something that we will 1803 01:18:58,462 --> 01:19:00,518 continually have to have more than a 1804 01:19:00,518 --> 01:19:03,200 discussion about but figure out how to 1805 01:19:03,210 --> 01:19:05,480 get to the end state in that regard . 1806 01:19:05,490 --> 01:19:07,379 Yeah . Well there's a lot of push 1807 01:19:07,379 --> 01:19:10,480 points and uh handoffs between agencies 1808 01:19:10,490 --> 01:19:12,490 information between one another . I 1809 01:19:12,490 --> 01:19:14,546 look forward to working on that with 1810 01:19:14,546 --> 01:19:16,823 you . Thank you . Thank you . Mr Chair . 1811 01:19:16,823 --> 01:19:19,200 Thank you Senator Thank you Senator 1812 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,560 Rosen . Uh Senator Sullivan please 1813 01:19:21,570 --> 01:19:23,680 thank you . Mr Chairman and General 1814 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,736 Cotton . Good to see you . I enjoyed 1815 01:19:25,736 --> 01:19:28,350 our discussion the other day . Let me 1816 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,300 uh follow up on some of the topics that 1817 01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:34,880 we talked about first . Um 1818 01:19:35,470 --> 01:19:37,730 If confirmed you will work closely with 1819 01:19:37,730 --> 01:19:39,952 the U . S . Space Force Missile Defense 1820 01:19:39,952 --> 01:19:43,320 Agency Northern Command to 1821 01:19:43,330 --> 01:19:46,290 guarantee the security of our nation . 1822 01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:50,020 And um as you know , Alaska has a lot 1823 01:19:50,030 --> 01:19:53,460 of critical assets that relate to 1824 01:19:53,470 --> 01:19:55,637 missile defense for the cornerstone of 1825 01:19:55,637 --> 01:19:58,760 missile defense over 105th generation 1826 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,190 fighters uh world class training 1827 01:20:02,190 --> 01:20:06,000 ranges . If confirmed . Will you commit 1828 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,150 to visiting Alaska early in your tenure 1829 01:20:09,150 --> 01:20:11,500 to see these assets meet with the 1830 01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:13,444 troops that are so critical to our 1831 01:20:13,444 --> 01:20:15,778 homeland defense that you see in Alaska , 1832 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,330 Senator . Absolutely thank you . Um , 1833 01:20:20,340 --> 01:20:22,507 you know , we had a good discussion on 1834 01:20:22,507 --> 01:20:25,190 basing in 1835 01:20:26,180 --> 01:20:29,770 May of 1992 . The Strategic Air Command 1836 01:20:29,770 --> 01:20:32,720 was essentially stood down and many of 1837 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,150 our bomber bases uh , around the 1838 01:20:36,150 --> 01:20:38,920 country around the world were closed . 1839 01:20:38,930 --> 01:20:40,986 We've been talking about a lot about 1840 01:20:40,986 --> 01:20:43,610 great power competition and how we need 1841 01:20:43,610 --> 01:20:46,090 to be ready to confront to near pier 1842 01:20:46,090 --> 01:20:48,590 nuclear capable adversaries with very 1843 01:20:48,590 --> 01:20:51,890 large militaries . Given this reality , 1844 01:20:51,890 --> 01:20:54,260 how should we be approaching the basing 1845 01:20:54,260 --> 01:20:56,371 of our nuclear capable bomber fleet , 1846 01:20:56,371 --> 01:20:59,390 particularly when the B 21 raider 1847 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,410 comes online . And again in line of 1848 01:21:03,420 --> 01:21:05,740 some of the issues you and I discussed 1849 01:21:05,740 --> 01:21:08,960 the other day , Senator . Thank you . I 1850 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,182 think initially when we talk about main 1851 01:21:11,182 --> 01:21:13,349 operating bases , um , I'm comfortable 1852 01:21:13,349 --> 01:21:15,571 where we are . The conversation that we 1853 01:21:15,571 --> 01:21:17,682 had is how do you , you know , how do 1854 01:21:17,682 --> 01:21:19,904 we disperse forces um , in the future , 1855 01:21:19,904 --> 01:21:22,016 especially with with two near peers . 1856 01:21:22,016 --> 01:21:24,730 Um , and , and , and in our discussion , 1857 01:21:24,740 --> 01:21:26,840 we talk about the agile combat 1858 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,060 employment construct that the Air Force 1859 01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:32,940 with the Chief of Staff General CQ 1860 01:21:32,940 --> 01:21:34,884 Brown is leading across the United 1861 01:21:34,884 --> 01:21:37,051 States Air Force . I say it's a little 1862 01:21:37,051 --> 01:21:38,773 different what I call big wing 1863 01:21:38,773 --> 01:21:40,884 airplanes . Um , as opposed to to our 1864 01:21:40,884 --> 01:21:42,840 fighter forces , but the construct 1865 01:21:42,850 --> 01:21:45,940 holes and , and and works as well . Um 1866 01:21:45,950 --> 01:21:48,006 I would love to be able to make sure 1867 01:21:48,006 --> 01:21:49,728 that we have opportunities and 1868 01:21:49,728 --> 01:21:52,250 availability throughout the country to 1869 01:21:52,250 --> 01:21:55,210 add dilemma to our adversaries . If you 1870 01:21:55,210 --> 01:21:58,650 will um on where our bomber forces are 1871 01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:00,872 in the future . Let me be a little more 1872 01:22:00,872 --> 01:22:02,983 direct on that is , you know , Alaska 1873 01:22:02,983 --> 01:22:05,930 is very strategically located and 1874 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,370 staging options , rotational 1875 01:22:08,370 --> 01:22:11,140 deployments . The ability to have not 1876 01:22:11,140 --> 01:22:14,600 just fifth gen fighters but strategic 1877 01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:18,160 global strike assets um based in 1878 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,750 Alaska that are much closer to Russia , 1879 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,580 much closer to china as you and I have 1880 01:22:23,580 --> 01:22:26,040 discussed , a number of Air Force flag 1881 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,890 officers have seen this as a strategic 1882 01:22:29,900 --> 01:22:32,880 uh concept that we can take advantage 1883 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,640 of particularly with regard to great 1884 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,473 power competition . You have any 1885 01:22:37,473 --> 01:22:39,140 thoughts on that general more 1886 01:22:39,140 --> 01:22:41,880 specifically ? Well , I think I think 1887 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,780 the basis in in Alaska act as great 1888 01:22:44,780 --> 01:22:47,240 staging basis for for for bomber 1889 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,296 deployments . And I think that's the 1890 01:22:49,296 --> 01:22:52,770 question that you're asking , um the 1891 01:22:52,780 --> 01:22:55,240 point of having a main operating base 1892 01:22:55,250 --> 01:22:58,600 um if confirmed as commander stratcom , 1893 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,822 I'd like to make that assessment to see 1894 01:23:00,830 --> 01:23:02,830 what , what recommendations I would 1895 01:23:02,830 --> 01:23:05,970 make to the service . But um today I 1896 01:23:05,970 --> 01:23:08,360 think um as we move forward , I think 1897 01:23:08,370 --> 01:23:11,650 having it as a , as an operating a 1898 01:23:11,650 --> 01:23:15,590 staging platform is critical for us . 1899 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,767 I mean if you recall , we talked about 1900 01:23:17,767 --> 01:23:19,989 even , you know , ensuring that we have 1901 01:23:19,989 --> 01:23:21,989 right , you know , runway lengths , 1902 01:23:21,989 --> 01:23:24,310 etcetera moving forward . Great and I'm 1903 01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:26,532 looking forward to working with you and 1904 01:23:26,532 --> 01:23:28,699 I look forward to supporting your your 1905 01:23:28,699 --> 01:23:30,930 confirmation . Let me um talk about 1906 01:23:30,930 --> 01:23:33,550 another topic we had the opportunity to 1907 01:23:33,550 --> 01:23:37,550 discuss and that's this idea of 1908 01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:39,883 a strategic breakout as it relates to I . 1909 01:23:39,883 --> 01:23:43,620 C . B . M . Capability with regard 1910 01:23:43,630 --> 01:23:46,750 to china . The current stratcom 1911 01:23:46,750 --> 01:23:49,520 commander , Admiral Richard called that 1912 01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:53,380 the recent reports on how quickly china 1913 01:23:53,390 --> 01:23:56,160 is developing strategic 1914 01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,640 missile capabilities , I . C . B . M . 1915 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,251 Capabilities . You called it 1916 01:24:01,251 --> 01:24:04,470 breathtaking um in your estimation , 1917 01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:07,410 what is the greatest concern regarding 1918 01:24:07,410 --> 01:24:10,700 this strategic breakout ? And how 1919 01:24:10,700 --> 01:24:13,630 should we as uh Armed Services 1920 01:24:13,630 --> 01:24:17,270 Committee , be focused on helping you 1921 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,330 counter or be ready for that ? Very 1922 01:24:20,330 --> 01:24:22,386 significant threat . Thanks for that 1923 01:24:22,386 --> 01:24:25,190 question . As recent as 2018 , we will 1924 01:24:25,190 --> 01:24:27,340 describe china as having a minimal 1925 01:24:27,340 --> 01:24:30,350 deterrence , minimal nuclear deterrence . 1926 01:24:30,610 --> 01:24:32,221 We would have probably had a 1927 01:24:32,221 --> 01:24:35,060 conversation stating that um it was 1928 01:24:35,060 --> 01:24:38,110 about regional hegemony . 1929 01:24:38,710 --> 01:24:42,130 Um today uh they're 1930 01:24:42,130 --> 01:24:45,170 building ground based I C . B . M . 1931 01:24:45,170 --> 01:24:48,950 Silos . Um They have the H six and 1932 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,550 nuclear capable medium bomber that has 1933 01:24:51,550 --> 01:24:54,650 strategic capable um launch platform . 1934 01:24:54,650 --> 01:24:56,594 And just real quick general not to 1935 01:24:56,594 --> 01:24:59,000 interrupt but to give some context that 1936 01:24:59,010 --> 01:25:01,550 in april of 2021 commercial satellite 1937 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,360 imagery revealed three new nuclear 1938 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,750 missile fields in western china . Each 1939 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,440 with approximately 100 and 20 missile 1940 01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:14,140 silos . So this is incredible . Is it 1941 01:25:14,140 --> 01:25:17,610 not in terms of the size . It is 1942 01:25:17,610 --> 01:25:19,721 absolutely incredible and it's such a 1943 01:25:19,721 --> 01:25:21,777 short time . Um to Admiral Richard's 1944 01:25:21,777 --> 01:25:24,370 point . Thank you . Thank you . Mr . 1945 01:25:24,370 --> 01:25:26,660 Chairman . Thank you . Senator Sullivan 1946 01:25:26,670 --> 01:25:29,460 uh Senator kelly , Are you ready ? 1947 01:25:31,490 --> 01:25:35,310 Yes . Yes thank you . Thank you . Mr 1948 01:25:35,310 --> 01:25:38,330 Chairman General . Um 1949 01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:42,260 Great seeing you again this week and 1950 01:25:42,850 --> 01:25:46,080 uh congratulations on your nomination . 1951 01:25:46,090 --> 01:25:48,150 Um you know during our meeting we 1952 01:25:48,150 --> 01:25:50,960 briefly discussed your priorities and 1953 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,880 if confirmed um for your priorities 1954 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,210 for modernizing the nuclear triad . The 1955 01:25:57,210 --> 01:25:59,377 long range standoff weapon . We talked 1956 01:25:59,377 --> 01:26:01,654 a little bit about that . Or L . R . S . 1957 01:26:01,654 --> 01:26:04,380 O . Represents one leg of the triad and 1958 01:26:04,380 --> 01:26:07,870 replaces the aging . A . G . M . 86 1959 01:26:07,870 --> 01:26:10,570 be air launched cruise missile . And 1960 01:26:10,570 --> 01:26:12,810 the Senate version of the defense bill 1961 01:26:12,810 --> 01:26:14,940 put almost a billion dollars towards 1962 01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:18,090 continued development of the L . R . S . 1963 01:26:18,090 --> 01:26:21,400 O . And the L . R . S . O . Is a unique 1964 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,740 component of our strategic deterrence 1965 01:26:23,740 --> 01:26:27,050 in that it is a de escalatory weapon in 1966 01:26:27,050 --> 01:26:30,360 mind and others opinions and 1967 01:26:30,370 --> 01:26:33,350 when our adversaries see or maybe here 1968 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,582 that our long range bombers are on high 1969 01:26:35,582 --> 01:26:37,638 alert . It gives them some pause and 1970 01:26:37,638 --> 01:26:39,860 tensions can be called without a bomber 1971 01:26:39,860 --> 01:26:42,082 ever lifting off . So general , can can 1972 01:26:42,082 --> 01:26:44,249 I get your thoughts on the L . R . S . 1973 01:26:44,249 --> 01:26:46,304 O . And can I get your commitment if 1974 01:26:46,304 --> 01:26:48,193 confirmed to the continued timely 1975 01:26:48,193 --> 01:26:50,304 development of this weapon as a vital 1976 01:26:50,304 --> 01:26:52,249 and de escalatory component of our 1977 01:26:52,249 --> 01:26:54,360 nuclear triad . Senator kelly . Thank 1978 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,760 you for the question . Um Bottom line 1979 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,530 up front , we absolutely need LRS . So 1980 01:26:59,540 --> 01:27:02,130 um the good news is um the industry's 1981 01:27:02,130 --> 01:27:05,050 partner is doing incredible work um 1982 01:27:05,060 --> 01:27:07,210 keeping that program on time and on 1983 01:27:07,210 --> 01:27:09,800 schedule and I'm quite pleased as the 1984 01:27:09,810 --> 01:27:12,100 air component commander um That's 1985 01:27:12,110 --> 01:27:14,221 that's the lead match come overseeing 1986 01:27:14,221 --> 01:27:16,443 it now and watching it . Um seeing what 1987 01:27:16,443 --> 01:27:19,110 that's doing so to your point um for 1988 01:27:19,930 --> 01:27:22,080 for our long range standoff bomber 1989 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,790 capability , that leg of the triad um 1990 01:27:25,790 --> 01:27:28,012 having a viable credible weapons system 1991 01:27:28,012 --> 01:27:31,220 is absolutely critical . Um And the LRS , 1992 01:27:31,220 --> 01:27:33,610 so is that that that viable critical 1993 01:27:33,610 --> 01:27:36,580 weapon ? That is a de escalatory weapon ? 1994 01:27:36,590 --> 01:27:38,534 Because you're absolutely right if 1995 01:27:38,534 --> 01:27:40,590 we're generating bombers , um it can 1996 01:27:40,590 --> 01:27:42,701 send a signal before the first bomber 1997 01:27:42,701 --> 01:27:45,710 even lifts off any uh any trl concerns 1998 01:27:45,710 --> 01:27:47,766 right now . Are there any any things 1999 01:27:47,766 --> 01:27:49,988 you see that you're worried about as we 2000 01:27:49,988 --> 01:27:52,099 as we go forward that you could share 2001 01:27:52,099 --> 01:27:53,988 here ? I have not , I've seen the 2002 01:27:53,988 --> 01:27:55,877 testing that's been that's that's 2003 01:27:55,877 --> 01:27:57,821 underway has been very promising . 2004 01:27:57,821 --> 01:27:59,710 Thank you , general . And uh also 2005 01:27:59,710 --> 01:28:01,877 during our conversation on monday , we 2006 01:28:01,877 --> 01:28:04,780 briefly talked about um the tanker 2007 01:28:04,780 --> 01:28:07,670 fleet , uh we have , you know , KC 1 30 2008 01:28:07,670 --> 01:28:11,140 fives in phoenix . And um so I know 2009 01:28:11,140 --> 01:28:13,251 this is an issue you're familiar with 2010 01:28:13,251 --> 01:28:15,084 as the head of the Global Strike 2011 01:28:15,084 --> 01:28:17,140 Command . And uh my understanding is 2012 01:28:17,140 --> 01:28:20,930 after talking to the team at the 161st 2013 01:28:20,930 --> 01:28:22,820 aerial refueling wing which is a 2014 01:28:22,830 --> 01:28:26,240 National guard unit . Uh is that unlike 2015 01:28:26,250 --> 01:28:29,310 the KC 46 the KC 1 35 is not E . M . P . 2016 01:28:29,310 --> 01:28:32,960 Hardened . Um I guess they have 2017 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,127 some kind of makeshift procedures that 2018 01:28:35,127 --> 01:28:37,870 they could use but it is clearly not 2019 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,790 able to to handle electronic magnetic 2020 01:28:41,790 --> 01:28:44,290 pulse um that it might might be up 2021 01:28:44,290 --> 01:28:46,290 against depending on you know , the 2022 01:28:46,290 --> 01:28:49,290 location and the mission . Um A small 2023 01:28:49,290 --> 01:28:52,700 amount of KC 1 35 sit on a you know , 2024 01:28:52,700 --> 01:28:56,000 24 hour a day , seven days a week alert 2025 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,480 for the strategic defense deterrence 2026 01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:00,591 mission . How concerned are you about 2027 01:29:00,591 --> 01:29:04,350 the potential vulnerabilities of this 2028 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,570 aging tanker ? So thank you for the 2029 01:29:07,570 --> 01:29:11,320 question . Um The fleet holes 2030 01:29:11,330 --> 01:29:13,870 so I'm confident that it can get us 2031 01:29:13,870 --> 01:29:16,690 there . Um But I'm even more confident 2032 01:29:16,690 --> 01:29:19,560 and and what we're seeing in um in the 2033 01:29:19,570 --> 01:29:23,340 KC 46 that's being deployed ? Um My 2034 01:29:23,340 --> 01:29:27,330 fellow match com commander um General 2035 01:29:27,330 --> 01:29:30,670 Minihan from Air mobility command . Um 2036 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,060 I know is is on top of the procurement 2037 01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:36,390 um and deliveries of the KC 46 2038 01:29:37,890 --> 01:29:41,010 for the KC 1 35 . It's 2039 01:29:41,010 --> 01:29:43,340 delivery , you know , it coexists with 2040 01:29:43,340 --> 01:29:46,710 the B 52 . Um It was it was 2041 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:50,720 developed to tank the B 52 . Um So 2042 01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,330 it is an aging weapons system . Um But 2043 01:29:53,330 --> 01:29:55,420 senator uh it's still meeting the 2044 01:29:55,420 --> 01:29:57,790 requirements to be able to get our our 2045 01:29:57,790 --> 01:30:01,470 bombers as as we bring case C um 2046 01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:04,340 46 is online . Would you 2047 01:30:04,660 --> 01:30:08,610 agree that uh KC 1 35 squadrons 2048 01:30:08,610 --> 01:30:10,450 that are participating in the 2049 01:30:10,450 --> 01:30:13,150 deterrence mission should be given 2050 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,990 priority uh to be replaced with the KC 2051 01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:18,170 46 . Sir , have confirmed what I would 2052 01:30:18,170 --> 01:30:20,170 like to do is make an assessment to 2053 01:30:20,170 --> 01:30:22,226 kind of figure out what are the pros 2054 01:30:22,226 --> 01:30:24,392 and cons of of what those mission sets 2055 01:30:24,392 --> 01:30:26,337 are doing using a legacy system as 2056 01:30:26,337 --> 01:30:28,337 opposed to using the new modernized 2057 01:30:28,337 --> 01:30:30,337 system . Well thank you General and 2058 01:30:30,337 --> 01:30:32,337 thank you . Mr . Chairman thank you 2059 01:30:32,337 --> 01:30:34,281 Senator Silva Center . Holy please 2060 01:30:35,180 --> 01:30:37,347 thank you . Mr Chairman General . Good 2061 01:30:37,347 --> 01:30:39,069 to see you . I appreciated our 2062 01:30:39,069 --> 01:30:41,347 conversation the other day . Thank you . 2063 01:30:41,347 --> 01:30:43,458 I guess it was just yesterday . Thank 2064 01:30:43,458 --> 01:30:45,402 you for making time for me . Let's 2065 01:30:45,402 --> 01:30:47,458 follow up if we could on a couple of 2066 01:30:47,458 --> 01:30:49,680 things we talked about . First of all , 2067 01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:48,920 the Admiral Richard , the current 2068 01:30:48,930 --> 01:30:51,160 stratcom commander of course has 2069 01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,216 testified and I talked about this um 2070 01:30:53,216 --> 01:30:55,271 that the U . S . Needs to think very 2071 01:30:55,271 --> 01:30:57,327 seriously about the requirements for 2072 01:30:57,327 --> 01:30:59,438 deterring two major nuclear powers at 2073 01:30:59,438 --> 01:31:01,327 the same time china and Russia of 2074 01:31:01,327 --> 01:31:03,382 course . And you said the same thing 2075 01:31:03,382 --> 01:31:05,493 yesterday . Which which I appreciated 2076 01:31:05,493 --> 01:31:07,493 here's my question . If confirmed , 2077 01:31:07,493 --> 01:31:09,660 would you commit to having stratcom do 2078 01:31:09,660 --> 01:31:11,493 an analysis of the nuclear force 2079 01:31:11,493 --> 01:31:13,549 requirements to deter both China and 2080 01:31:13,549 --> 01:31:16,350 Russia now and into the 2030's senator 2081 01:31:16,350 --> 01:31:18,239 thanks for the question . And the 2082 01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:20,430 answer is absolutely yes . Um I think 2083 01:31:20,430 --> 01:31:22,930 that's gonna be critical for us . I 2084 01:31:22,930 --> 01:31:25,310 called it earlier . You know it's the 2085 01:31:25,310 --> 01:31:28,620 strategic um doctoring within the 2086 01:31:28,630 --> 01:31:31,000 within stratcom . Not necessarily 2087 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:32,722 policy . I'm talking about the 2088 01:31:32,722 --> 01:31:34,930 strategic doctrine within within 2089 01:31:34,930 --> 01:31:37,340 stratcom to ensure that we can we can 2090 01:31:37,340 --> 01:31:39,740 do exactly what you asked . Um The 2091 01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:41,650 other piece of that is then the 2092 01:31:41,650 --> 01:31:44,710 national objectives from the President 2093 01:31:44,710 --> 01:31:46,821 to make sure we can meet the national 2094 01:31:46,821 --> 01:31:48,988 objectives as well . Very good . Thank 2095 01:31:48,988 --> 01:31:48,790 you for that . I think that will be 2096 01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:51,340 hugely hugely helpful . Um I asked 2097 01:31:51,340 --> 01:31:53,562 Admiral Richard earlier this year about 2098 01:31:53,562 --> 01:31:55,618 china's ability to engage in limited 2099 01:31:55,618 --> 01:31:57,784 nuclear employment . Uh and whether or 2100 01:31:57,784 --> 01:31:59,951 not that was growing , he said that it 2101 01:31:59,951 --> 01:32:02,007 was and he was very emphatic on this 2102 01:32:02,007 --> 01:32:04,229 point and he talked about how important 2103 01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:04,120 it is the United States to maintain our 2104 01:32:04,130 --> 01:32:07,220 own limited nuclear options if we're 2105 01:32:07,220 --> 01:32:09,442 going to be able to deter china in what 2106 01:32:09,442 --> 01:32:11,498 is our our pacing three theater . So 2107 01:32:11,498 --> 01:32:13,720 let me just ask you , do you agree that 2108 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,720 we need to be concerned about china 2109 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,887 resulting resorting to limited nuclear 2110 01:32:17,887 --> 01:32:19,942 employment in a conflict ? Let's say 2111 01:32:19,942 --> 01:32:22,280 over Taiwan Senator , I think any near 2112 01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,391 pierre nuclear adversary , we have to 2113 01:32:24,391 --> 01:32:26,391 be concerned about that . Would you 2114 01:32:26,391 --> 01:32:29,310 agree that having our own limited 2115 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:33,000 nuclear options , whether that's low 2116 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,870 yield slbM or nuclear arms , sea launch 2117 01:32:35,870 --> 01:32:37,814 cruise missiles , that that having 2118 01:32:37,814 --> 01:32:39,814 those maintaining those can help us 2119 01:32:39,814 --> 01:32:42,440 deter china's limited nuclear use ? You 2120 01:32:42,440 --> 01:32:45,150 know , as I described to the committee , 2121 01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,680 um for me , it's about being able to 2122 01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,450 give options to the Commander in chief . 2123 01:32:50,460 --> 01:32:53,050 Very good . Are there other limited 2124 01:32:53,050 --> 01:32:55,217 nuclear options that you think that we 2125 01:32:55,217 --> 01:32:57,328 ought to be pursuing , whether that's 2126 01:32:57,328 --> 01:32:59,439 in terms of additional capabilities . 2127 01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,661 Whether that's posture changes in order 2128 01:33:01,661 --> 01:33:03,717 to deter chinese and Russian limited 2129 01:33:03,717 --> 01:33:05,939 nuclear use Senator . I think that goes 2130 01:33:05,939 --> 01:33:08,380 along with that study that if confirmed 2131 01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:10,760 um you know taking that really deep 2132 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,871 study to understand what that outcome 2133 01:33:12,871 --> 01:33:15,038 and what because what I wanted success 2134 01:33:15,038 --> 01:33:17,230 at the end of that . So what what that 2135 01:33:17,230 --> 01:33:19,397 would look like . So if confirmed that 2136 01:33:19,397 --> 01:33:21,452 would be part of that study . Okay , 2137 01:33:21,452 --> 01:33:23,674 very good , Fair enough , fair enough . 2138 01:33:23,674 --> 01:33:23,250 You said to me yesterday , which I 2139 01:33:23,250 --> 01:33:25,630 appreciated , I'm gonna try to make 2140 01:33:25,630 --> 01:33:28,560 sure I I get you quoted correctly and 2141 01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,449 then we talk about it . If we can 2142 01:33:30,449 --> 01:33:32,616 prevent china from crossing the Taiwan 2143 01:33:32,616 --> 01:33:34,727 strait and they know that we've got a 2144 01:33:34,727 --> 01:33:36,800 viable nuclear deterrent then it's 2145 01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,578 possible that Beijing might not 2146 01:33:38,578 --> 01:33:40,633 escalate at all . And I thought that 2147 01:33:40,633 --> 01:33:42,744 was right on the money . I agree with 2148 01:33:42,744 --> 01:33:44,967 that 100% and I just want to give you a 2149 01:33:44,967 --> 01:33:44,650 chance to elaborate that on that here 2150 01:33:44,660 --> 01:33:46,549 because it sounds to me like what 2151 01:33:46,549 --> 01:33:48,716 you're saying is the right approach to 2152 01:33:48,716 --> 01:33:50,882 deterring a chinese invasion of Taiwan 2153 01:33:50,882 --> 01:33:52,993 is denial to deny them the ability to 2154 01:33:52,993 --> 01:33:55,160 do that ? The first instance backed up 2155 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,327 by a very credible nuclear deterrent ? 2156 01:33:57,327 --> 01:33:59,271 So am I do I have that right . And 2157 01:33:59,271 --> 01:34:01,493 would you just , would you elaborate on 2158 01:34:01,493 --> 01:34:01,180 why you think that's the right 2159 01:34:01,180 --> 01:34:05,130 combination Senator ? I think that the 2160 01:34:05,140 --> 01:34:07,960 whole reason that we have the strategic 2161 01:34:07,970 --> 01:34:11,570 um deterrents that we have today and 2162 01:34:11,570 --> 01:34:14,070 the triad that we have today is to 2163 01:34:14,070 --> 01:34:17,920 ensure that um our adversaries 2164 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,970 understand that today shouldn't be the 2165 01:34:20,970 --> 01:34:23,081 day for them . So , as we were having 2166 01:34:23,081 --> 01:34:25,414 that conversation , that's what I meant . 2167 01:34:25,414 --> 01:34:27,637 I think that they would understand that 2168 01:34:27,637 --> 01:34:31,230 if you have a credible 2169 01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,940 nuclear deterrent , it would make them 2170 01:34:33,940 --> 01:34:36,940 think twice before engaging with us . 2171 01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:39,780 And it's and those two things , the 2172 01:34:39,790 --> 01:34:42,180 conventional denial combined with the 2173 01:34:42,180 --> 01:34:44,291 nuclear deterrent , those things have 2174 01:34:44,291 --> 01:34:46,513 to sit together . Is that fair to say ? 2175 01:34:46,513 --> 01:34:48,680 I mean , they work hand in hand , they 2176 01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:48,620 work hand in hand , conventional and 2177 01:34:48,620 --> 01:34:50,940 nuclear works hand in hand . Yeah . Um , 2178 01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:53,117 let me ask you this just on the on the 2179 01:34:53,117 --> 01:34:54,672 question of our own nuclear 2180 01:34:54,672 --> 01:34:56,728 modernization . Given the pace of of 2181 01:34:56,728 --> 01:34:58,228 china and Russia and their 2182 01:34:58,228 --> 01:35:00,339 modernization if confirmed , will you 2183 01:35:00,339 --> 01:35:02,500 be looking for ways to to accelerate 2184 01:35:02,510 --> 01:35:05,750 our nuclear modernization and identify 2185 01:35:05,750 --> 01:35:07,861 those options for Congress so that we 2186 01:35:07,861 --> 01:35:10,028 can work together to make sure that we 2187 01:35:10,028 --> 01:35:11,861 push the pace like we need to if 2188 01:35:11,861 --> 01:35:14,083 confirmed . I would do that center very 2189 01:35:14,083 --> 01:35:16,083 good . Let me just ask you 11 final 2190 01:35:16,083 --> 01:35:16,010 thing here in my remaining Seconds , 2191 01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,470 The 2018 nuclear posture review . It 2192 01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:20,210 highlighted the importance of 2193 01:35:20,210 --> 01:35:22,154 conventional nuclear integration , 2194 01:35:22,154 --> 01:35:24,377 which we were just touching on which of 2195 01:35:24,377 --> 01:35:26,432 course is critical for strengthening 2196 01:35:26,432 --> 01:35:28,210 conventional deterrence against 2197 01:35:28,210 --> 01:35:30,321 adversaries who may use nuclear force 2198 01:35:30,321 --> 01:35:32,488 for operational or course of effects . 2199 01:35:32,488 --> 01:35:34,654 Has the department , in your view made 2200 01:35:34,654 --> 01:35:36,877 sufficient progress on the conventional 2201 01:35:36,877 --> 01:35:39,510 nuclear integration since the 2018 NPR ? 2202 01:35:40,190 --> 01:35:42,290 I think it has because in the past 2203 01:35:42,290 --> 01:35:44,457 we've probably we didn't talk about it 2204 01:35:44,457 --> 01:35:46,623 the way we should have And I think the 2205 01:35:46,623 --> 01:35:48,846 integration on being able to talk about 2206 01:35:48,846 --> 01:35:50,957 going from conventional to nuclear as 2207 01:35:50,957 --> 01:35:53,234 opposed to doing a pause X if you will . 2208 01:35:53,234 --> 01:35:55,290 And then having that conversation um 2209 01:35:55,290 --> 01:35:57,290 we've made leaps and bounds in that 2210 01:35:57,290 --> 01:35:56,730 regard . Very good . Thank you . 2211 01:35:56,730 --> 01:35:58,341 General thanks again for the 2212 01:35:58,341 --> 01:36:00,563 conversation yesterday . Thanks to your 2213 01:36:00,563 --> 01:36:00,100 testimony . Thank you . Mr . Chairman 2214 01:36:00,110 --> 01:36:02,054 thank you Senator Hawley . Senator 2215 01:36:02,054 --> 01:36:04,340 Warren please thank you . Mr . Chairman 2216 01:36:04,340 --> 01:36:06,229 and congratulations again on your 2217 01:36:06,229 --> 01:36:09,100 nomination , General Cotton . So if 2218 01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:11,160 confirmed , you'll head U . S . 2219 01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,327 Strategic Command which will place you 2220 01:36:13,327 --> 01:36:15,493 in charge of our nuclear weapons . I'd 2221 01:36:15,493 --> 01:36:17,950 like to continue the conversation that 2222 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,120 we had in my office about the 2223 01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,450 importance of civilian control . Last 2224 01:36:23,450 --> 01:36:25,880 week eight former secretaries of 2225 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,800 Defense and five former Chairman of the 2226 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,120 Joint Chiefs of Staff released an open 2227 01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:35,160 letter calling for a recommitment to 2228 01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:38,100 principles of civilian control , which 2229 01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:40,267 they called . And I want to quote them 2230 01:36:40,267 --> 01:36:42,100 here , The bedrock foundation of 2231 01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:45,710 american democracy unquote The letter 2232 01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,720 repeat , emphasizes that policy 2233 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,200 decisions are ultimately up to the 2234 01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,560 president civilian political appointees 2235 01:36:54,570 --> 01:36:57,180 and Congress . So General Cotton , can 2236 01:36:57,180 --> 01:36:59,570 you start us out this morning by saying 2237 01:36:59,570 --> 01:37:02,150 a word about your views on whether 2238 01:37:02,150 --> 01:37:05,450 policy decisions including ones about 2239 01:37:05,450 --> 01:37:07,780 nuclear programs should be made by 2240 01:37:07,780 --> 01:37:11,660 civilians rather than generals . Policy 2241 01:37:11,660 --> 01:37:14,540 is made by civilians ma'am . And you 2242 01:37:14,540 --> 01:37:16,651 are committed to that firmly and I am 2243 01:37:16,651 --> 01:37:18,510 committed to that . You know , I 2244 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,820 appreciate your emphasizing this point . 2245 01:37:20,830 --> 01:37:23,010 It is the president's job to determine 2246 01:37:23,010 --> 01:37:25,343 the nuclear policy of the United States . 2247 01:37:25,343 --> 01:37:27,940 But sometimes people who are in the 2248 01:37:27,940 --> 01:37:29,970 role that you've been nominated for 2249 01:37:30,130 --> 01:37:32,660 seem to get confused on that . For 2250 01:37:32,660 --> 01:37:35,730 example , your predecessor , Admiral 2251 01:37:35,730 --> 01:37:38,640 Richard stated publicly that he thought 2252 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,110 the biden administration should adopt 2253 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,310 the trump administration's nuclear 2254 01:37:43,310 --> 01:37:46,740 policy and then he and his 2255 01:37:46,750 --> 01:37:49,630 office actively lobbied Congress 2256 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,430 against cuts to the nuclear spending 2257 01:37:52,430 --> 01:37:55,220 programs contained in the biden 2258 01:37:55,230 --> 01:37:57,900 administration's budget . The budget 2259 01:37:57,970 --> 01:38:00,060 the president put forward and the 2260 01:38:00,060 --> 01:38:02,970 Secretary of Defense came to this 2261 01:38:02,970 --> 01:38:06,110 committee to defend . So General Cotton , 2262 01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,400 if confirmed . Do you think it would be 2263 01:38:08,410 --> 01:38:11,710 appropriate for you or your office to 2264 01:38:11,710 --> 01:38:15,110 publicly lobby against the positions of 2265 01:38:15,110 --> 01:38:17,054 the President and the Secretary of 2266 01:38:17,054 --> 01:38:19,870 Defense ? No ma'am . And you remember 2267 01:38:19,870 --> 01:38:21,981 we had this conversation , the caveat 2268 01:38:21,981 --> 01:38:24,203 that that we agreed to was , you know , 2269 01:38:24,203 --> 01:38:26,370 but I would always especially for this 2270 01:38:26,370 --> 01:38:29,230 committee be allowed to offer my best 2271 01:38:29,230 --> 01:38:31,820 military advice and your best military 2272 01:38:31,820 --> 01:38:35,580 advice . But policy is done by the 2273 01:38:35,580 --> 01:38:37,940 general's policy is not made by 2274 01:38:37,940 --> 01:38:40,107 generals . All right , thank you . You 2275 01:38:40,107 --> 01:38:42,162 know , we're counting on you to give 2276 01:38:42,162 --> 01:38:43,996 your best military advice to the 2277 01:38:43,996 --> 01:38:45,829 President to the secretary or to 2278 01:38:45,829 --> 01:38:48,080 Congress whenever you're called on to 2279 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,340 do so . But it is wildly inappropriate 2280 01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:53,830 to try to box in the Commander in chief 2281 01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,040 on nuclear policy or to try to 2282 01:38:56,050 --> 01:38:59,000 undermine his budget . Now one of the 2283 01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,410 big ways that military leaders lobby 2284 01:39:01,410 --> 01:39:03,243 for more spending , even when it 2285 01:39:03,243 --> 01:39:05,299 directly contradicts the President's 2286 01:39:05,299 --> 01:39:08,030 priorities is through so called 2287 01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,640 unfunded priorities lists . These are 2288 01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,520 wish lists that are required by law but 2289 01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,590 have grown to be tens of billions of 2290 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,920 dollars and are being used by the 2291 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,730 services and the commands to game the 2292 01:39:22,730 --> 01:39:24,841 budget process and I don't think they 2293 01:39:24,841 --> 01:39:27,760 ought to exist at all . General cotton . 2294 01:39:27,770 --> 01:39:31,660 Do you agree that your commands top 2295 01:39:31,670 --> 01:39:34,530 priorities should actually be reflected 2296 01:39:34,540 --> 01:39:37,040 in the budget you submit rather than in 2297 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,660 an extras list ? 2298 01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,180 Senator . I think our requirements list 2299 01:39:44,190 --> 01:39:48,110 um that we present should be 2300 01:39:48,110 --> 01:39:50,240 included and and and and covers down 2301 01:39:50,250 --> 01:39:53,450 and if if our budget is short um as the 2302 01:39:53,450 --> 01:39:56,320 commander my job is to ensure that I 2303 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,300 can I can execute my mission with the 2304 01:39:59,310 --> 01:40:01,532 with the dollars that I've been given . 2305 01:40:01,532 --> 01:40:03,477 All right . So I wanna make sure I 2306 01:40:03,477 --> 01:40:03,190 understand you here because you're 2307 01:40:03,190 --> 01:40:06,180 saying your priorities should be in the 2308 01:40:06,180 --> 01:40:08,800 budget and extras should be just that 2309 01:40:08,810 --> 01:40:11,250 extras not your priorities . Is that 2310 01:40:11,250 --> 01:40:13,390 right ? Um As a match com commander 2311 01:40:13,390 --> 01:40:15,557 today my priorities are in my budget . 2312 01:40:15,557 --> 01:40:17,723 Good . I like to hear that . Look it's 2313 01:40:17,723 --> 01:40:20,260 no secret that both President biden and 2314 01:40:20,260 --> 01:40:22,316 I want to reduce the role of nuclear 2315 01:40:22,316 --> 01:40:24,630 weapons in our national security 2316 01:40:24,630 --> 01:40:28,630 strategy , spending $364 billion 2317 01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,751 just on nuclear weapons over the next 2318 01:40:30,751 --> 01:40:34,550 10 years is unaffordable . But I think 2319 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,880 even my colleagues who disagree with me 2320 01:40:36,890 --> 01:40:40,090 on nuclear policy would agree that we 2321 01:40:40,090 --> 01:40:42,930 should be asking D . O . D . To write 2322 01:40:42,940 --> 01:40:46,040 budgets that reflect their actual 2323 01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,520 priorities and that's what it is I'm 2324 01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:50,840 driving for here and want to make sure 2325 01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,200 that we do . I look forward to working 2326 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,256 with you general . Thank you . Thank 2327 01:40:55,256 --> 01:40:57,311 you . Mr . Chairman . Thank you very 2328 01:40:57,311 --> 01:40:59,478 much . Senator Warren uh General thank 2329 01:40:59,478 --> 01:41:01,700 you for your testimony for your service 2330 01:41:01,700 --> 01:41:05,400 uh and we look forward to rapidly uh 2331 01:41:05,410 --> 01:41:07,760 bringing your nomination to a 2332 01:41:07,770 --> 01:41:09,937 successful conclusion . Thank you very 2333 01:41:09,937 --> 01:41:12,840 much for that . I will during the hurt 2334 01:41:12,850 --> 01:41:13,740 and the hearing .